Giuseppe Marotta (94 Viewers)

[Klin]

So what do you make of Elia? why was he bought? and how much did we lose on him?

When you splash €30M on a player like Agüero there is no risk taken, it is a small risk that the player would fail. When you spend 15 to 20 M on a player like Vucinic the risk that he fails is much bigger.

Elia was a weird signing, I agree. I think by the time we bought him, Conte was still thinking about the 4-2-4 and did not expect the MVP partnership to be so great.

There's always a risk, Jack. Vucinic was also proven in the league, and let's not forget the wages.

 

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[JCK]

It's rare that real quality comes onto the market and in our conditions. Agüero was for a long time, and then City decided they needed another striker and all of a sudden he wasn't. Marotta seemed to go cold on RVP quite early on, the press stirred the pot every week as is their job.

In terms of Marotta replying to links he's pretty damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

What are our conditions exactly? I would like you to refresh my memory.

When does Marotta reply to links usually? I have a good memory on that. Most of the time it is several weeks after the rumours start to surface, when the links have gotten cold, when every one with half a brain realises that the deal is as dead as stone. In other words Marotta only repeats the obvious. Not to mention Pazzini, he already mentioned him (without naming him) in his latest announcement.

 

[LowLife]

We paid 11m for Giovinco, assuming Parma would have paid around 7-8 mil, we would have make 18-19 mil from Gio, just add another 10 mil and buy a top striker. I agree with Jack.

 

[fredrik]

So what do you make of Elia? why was he bought? and how much did we lose on him?

When you splash €30M on a player like Agüero there is no risk taken, it is a small risk that the player would fail. When you spend 15 to 20 M on a player like Vucinic the risk that he fails is much bigger.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...o-causes-Manchester-City-rebellion-wages.html

the risk lies also in wages! as seen with amauri or any buy by secco for that matter, huge wages can make the player worthless on the transfermarket, and cripple a clubs finance.

 

[Salvatore]

At this stage I have zero faith in Marotta in regards to getting us a top notch player, he simply just doesn't have it in him to buy them kind of players.

Say what you want about Uncle Fester at Milan, but if he was at our club, with what we've spent over the last few summers, we would have 2 or 3 world class players in our team by now. Bottom line

Pirlo, Chiellini, Buffon

 

[Klin]

We could have got someone else, Isla is expensive.

Well, we got him on co-own. It could be that Marotta knows that he has other departments to still invest in.

 

[Suns]

€30m? Salary? You'd have to ask Marotta, those are his words.

How do you feel about it? The whole top striker saga? Are you losing your patience and what are you thoughts about the whole folding when competition arrives?

 

[JuveJay]

Say what you want about Uncle Fester at Milan, but if he was at our club, with what we've spent over the last few summers, we would have 2 or 3 world class players in our team by now. Bottom line

Do you think it is Galliani who pays for those players? No, it is Berlusconi. Just as it isn't Marotta who has the final say on what is spent on a player at Juventus.

 

[JCK]

always with the conte argument...he still built the best squad in serie a. we have limited resurces no matter what you think. last year we had about 100m in wages, city about 200m. so there really IS a HUGE difference in what we can offer in WAGES to a top player. Also on transfer fees we never top the list, even if we have spent alot of money.

No, we don't have limited resources. Last season we were the second biggest spenders in Europe.

The Conte argument is a reality that you should NEVER ignore.

and last but not least let me just go on we never top the list even if we spend a lot of money...

 

[JuveJay]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...o-causes-Manchester-City-rebellion-wages.html

the risk lies also in wages! as seen with amauri or any buy by secco for that matter, huge wages can make the player worthless on the transfermarket, and cripple a clubs finance.

It's obvious wages are a huge problem in negotiations. We know well from Marotta's actions that there is a tighter wage structure at the club than from Secco's era.

 

[Salvatore]

Funny thing is that you mentioned that a striker is a priority, that came very well synchronised after Marotta's latest announcement on how we don't buy big names but we buy what is needed. I won't mention Pazzini directly, Marotta already did with that announcement.

He's mentioned Llorente by name, and he'd eat up more of the budget than any of the other purchases so far, so I'd think he's been saving up for a striker better than Pazzini.

 

[fredrik]

We paid 11m for Giovinco, assuming Parma would have paid around 7-8 mil, we would have make 18-19 mil from Gio, just add another 10 mil and buy a top striker. I agree with Jack.

but to some gio is the best player in the world, and he said he was a goalscorer so why do we need a striker?

 

[JuveJay]

How do you feel about it? The whole top striker saga? Are you losing your patience and what are you thoughts about the whole folding when competition arrives?

I just want a goalscorer, because I see no other problems in the team. I'm not going to talk about folding, because it's scaremongering at this stage.

 

[Emmet]

Pirlo, Chiellini, Buffon

I mean 3 world class players bought.

Do you think it is Galliani who pays for those players? No, it is Berlusconi. Just as it isn't Marotta who has the final say on what is spent on a player at Juventus.

Of course not, but Galliani is a very good negotiator, if he had our budget to work with, we wouldn't have paid 12m for Martinez and 18m for Matri.

 

[JCK]

He's mentioned Llorente by name, and he'd eat up more of the budget than any of the other purchases so far, so I'd think he's been saving up for a striker better than Pazzini.

I would say it's wishful thinking on your behalf. Who do you have in mind for a better striker than Pazzini?

 

[JuveJay]

No, we don't have limited resources. Last season we were the second biggest spenders in Europe.

Yes but a chunk of that was essentially spent over two summers, because of the 'loan to buy' deals in place. It was also spent on many players, as we were building an entire squad with half of Del Neri's and then Conte's players. It was the first time we had actually spent net a lot of money under Marotta and we won the scudetto undefeated. Not too shabby.

 

[JCK]

I just want a goalscorer, because I see no other problems in the team. I'm not going to talk about folding, because it's scaremongering at this stage.

Pazzini?

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Yes but a chunk of that was essentially spent over two summers, because of the 'loan to buy' deals in place. It was also spent on many players, as we were building an entire squad with half of Del Neri's and then Conte's players. It was the first time we had actually spent net a lot of money under Marotta and we won the scudetto undefeated. Not too shabby.

And this season so far we are in third place and we still haven't got what we need most.

 

[fredrik]

No, we don't have limited resources. Last season we were the second biggest spenders in Europe.

The Conte argument is a reality that you should NEVER ignore.

and last but not least let me just go on we never top the list even if we spend a lot of money...

since when is second, top of the list? you think milan was top of serie a last year?

 

[Klin]

Of course not, but Galliani is a very good negotiator, if he had our budget to work with, we wouldn't have paid 12m for Martinez and 18m for Matri.

But would still let Pirlo go to Juve for free?

 

[JuveJay]

Of course not, but Galliani is a very good negotiator, if he had our budget to work with, we wouldn't have paid 12m for Martinez and 18m for Matri.

Yeah because Galliani has never bought a bad player or made an error on the market, what a ridiculous argument.

In terms of signing a big player I agree, he works well as a parasite taking advantage of market conditions. But look at the Zlatan deal, there is no way Juventus are paying a player €20m per season whether the sporting director is Marotta, Galliani, or Gandalf the White.