Klin

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May 27, 2009
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Like we do with every quality player, wait and wait and wait and miss on. Wasn't that the case with Dzeko where we waited until the FIGC came up with the 1 EU rule and we were forced to choose between him and Krasic. We are always cautious when it comes to stars and we always end up doing a panic buy because of how Marotta operates.
We have no other option though. It's no surprise really that even after what happened to the club, we're still one of the highest spenders in the transfer markets, year after year. We're finally seeing it paying off after last season.

I do expect Marotta to make a "big" signing for upfront though, and I don't expect it to be just Pazzini.
 

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JCK

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May 11, 2004
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€30m on van Persie on last year of contract is too much.

At least it should be an interesting couple of weeks till the end of the mercato, unlike last year when the majority of the budget was already spent.
Don't you think that a big chunk of the budget this year is also already spent? My friend is telling me that Llorente to Spurs is almost finished.
 

Suns

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May 22, 2009
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The problem here is this attitude of bolting whenever competition arrives. We have to put up a fight and not just fold whenever some other team challenges us for a player. We've dropped interest in so many top players because of competition. And honestly, we're just doing this whole signing a top player once, might as well get the player you desire and not care about competition. We've now dropped down to Llorente and who knows when we're going to fold on this deal too and move on to somebody else.
 

WΏΏdy?

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Dec 23, 2005
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marotta just simply slips in signing star players, tends to overpay for average to good quality ones, rips himself a new one when going for an italian player. how close were we to signing aguero? a couple of millions? it burns a angry hole in my ass when i remember marotta being asked about aguero and he smiled and said soon
:agree:

We were very close to the Aguero deal, marotta screwed it up.

*waits for the wannabe illegitimate marotta's son to pretend to know it all and defend him*
 

JCK

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We have no other option though. It's no surprise really that even after what happened to the club, we're still one of the highest spenders in the transfer markets, year after year. We're finally seeing it paying off after last season.

I do expect Marotta to make a "big" signing for upfront though, and I don't expect it to be just Pazzini.
Why don't we have other options? We need to spend to buy a quality forward and not to sound like Cronios but we keep ignoring it. And to highlight the outcome of being cautious, we always end up with a panic buy. What is better in this case? taking the risk on a player or doing the same mistake with a panic buy and knowing the outcome that we cannot get rid of him or ending up losing tons on him? It's a no brainer to be honest.

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Who wouldn't you have signed from our new recruits this Summer?
Isla and Giovinco.
 

fredrik

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Aug 7, 2011
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marotta just simply slips in signing star players, tends to overpay for average to good quality ones, rips himself a new one when going for an italian player. how close were we to signing aguero? a couple of millions? it burns a angry hole in my ass when i remember marotta being asked about aguero and he smiled and said soon
he has built the best team in serie a, so why is it important or wise to buy the most expensive players? we have limited resurces and have to be smart about who we buy. rvp for 24m is a horrible deal imo. you should also consider the wages of the players, we are not competing with city or psg for wages. you know how much aguero earns at city?
 

JCK

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he has built the best team in serie a, so why is it important or wise to buy the most expensive players? we have limited resurces and have to be smart about who we buy. rvp for 24m is a horrible deal imo. you should also consider the wages of the players, we are not competing with city or psg for wages. you know how much aguero earns at city?
No, he hasn't built the best team in Serie A. He has provided a good squad that Conte moulded into the best team. We don't have limited resources considering we are always topping the list of big spenders on each and every transfer window.
 

Dadi-SK

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Jan 30, 2011
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We have no other option though. It's no surprise really that even after what happened to the club, we're still one of the highest spenders in the transfer markets, year after year. We're finally seeing it paying off after last season.

I do expect Marotta to make a "big" signing for upfront though, and I don't expect it to be just Pazzini.
Well, there is Jovetic for whom we face no competition at all.
 

Klin

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May 27, 2009
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Why don't we have other options? We need to spend to buy a quality forward and not to sound like Cronios but we keep ignoring it. And to highlight the outcome of being cautious, we always end up with a panic buy. What is better in this case? taking the risk on a player or doing the same mistake with a panic buy and knowing the outcome that we cannot get rid of him or ending up losing tons on him? It's a no brainer to be honest.
The only difference is the price, really. See last Summer for example. Aguero was our 1st option. We were surely going to pay a fee close to €25-32M for him. Then either Marotta screwed it up as some are saying, or the fact that City were competing with us, Marotta pulled out of the negotiating. Then came Vucinic, who we got for €15M as a panic buy. Now you won't find a person who'll say that Mirko is the better player out there, but the risk was lower with him, and if I may say, it paid off well for us.

What I'm trying to say is that the club is in no position to afford taking a risk on a €30M striker right now, even if I may not entirely agree with.

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Well, there is Jovetic for whom we face no competition at all.
Except that Jovetic would be an unnecessary luxury for us to have right now.
 
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Don't you think that a big chunk of the budget this year is also already spent? My friend is telling me that Llorente to Spurs is almost finished.
I wouldn't think so, because it looks like they know a striker is the priority this summer. Maybe that's why he co-owned Isla and Asamoah, I don't know, but there has been consistent links with about 10 different strikers since May, and all were big budget purchases (don't mention Pazzini).
 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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The only difference is the price, really. See last Summer for example. Aguero was our 1st option. We were surely going to pay a fee close to €25-32M for him. Then either Marotta screwed it up as some are saying, or the fact that City were competing with us, Marotta pulled out of the negotiating. Then came Vucinic, who we got for €15M as a panic buy. Now you won't find a person who'll say that Mirko is the better player out there, but the risk was lower with him, and if I may say, it paid off well for us.

What I'm trying to say is that the club is in no position to afford taking a risk on a €30M striker right now, even if I may not entirely agree with.
So what do you make of Elia? why was he bought? and how much did we lose on him?

When you splash €30M on a player like Agüero there is no risk taken, it is a small risk that the player would fail. When you spend 15 to 20 M on a player like Vucinic the risk that he fails is much bigger.
 

fredrik

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Aug 7, 2011
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No, he hasn't built the best team in Serie A. He has provided a good squad that Conte moulded into the best team. We don't have limited resources considering we are always topping the list of big spenders on each and every transfer window.
always with the conte argument...he still built the best squad in serie a. we have limited resurces no matter what you think. last year we had about 100m in wages, city about 200m. so there really IS a HUGE difference in what we can offer in WAGES to a top player. Also on transfer fees we never top the list, even if we have spent alot of money.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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Why was he not realistic? Why not try to convince him that we've actually got a good thing going on? We're a very good and exciting team with great future, we need to persuade these guys to sign for us. And we obviously have the money.
€30m? Salary? You'd have to ask Marotta, those are his words.
 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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I wouldn't think so, because it looks like they know a striker is the priority this summer. Maybe that's why he co-owned Isla and Asamoah, I don't know, but there has been consistent links with about 10 different strikers since May, and all were big budget purchases (don't mention Pazzini).
Funny thing is that you mentioned that a striker is a priority, that came very well synchronised after Marotta's latest announcement on how we don't buy big names but we buy what is needed. I won't mention Pazzini directly, Marotta already did with that announcement.
 

JuveJay

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When you splash €30M on a player like Agüero there is no risk taken, it is a small risk that the player would fail. When you spend 15 to 20 M on a player like Vucinic the risk that he fails is much bigger.
It's rare that real quality comes onto the market and in our conditions. Agüero was for a long time, and then City decided they needed another striker and all of a sudden he wasn't. Marotta seemed to go cold on RVP quite early on, the press stirred the pot every week as is their job.

In terms of Marotta replying to links he's pretty damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
 

Emmet

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Apr 5, 2006
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At this stage I have zero faith in Marotta in regards to getting us a top notch player, he simply just doesn't have it in him to buy them kind of players.

Say what you want about Uncle Fester at Milan, but if he was at our club, with what we've spent over the last few summers, we would have 2 or 3 world class players in our team by now. Bottom line
 

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