Linebreak

Senior Member
Sep 18, 2009
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you actually belive mata was an option, and we could get him, or are you just trolling?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...d-Harry-Redknapp-midfielder-opts-Chelsea.html

rossi got pulled off the market, or didnt you know?

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/s...seppe-rossi-set-to-stay-at-villarreal?cc=5739

without matri and quag, who should be backup. Amauri?

its the real world, you cant just pick and choose
If you have negotiation skills, resolve, clout and management abilities, then all of those transfers would have been possible.

If you're easy to turn down and dissuade, then all of those transfers are too hard
 

Linebreak

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Sep 18, 2009
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With the 80(around 90m with Elia) million we've spent we could have easily opted for more quality instead of quantity. As I said, Licht, Pirlo, Vidal, Pazienza and Ziegler all came for a total sum of 20 million. Already there we got ourselves a new RB, and two new CM's. With the 60+ that is left we could have gone for quality.

Vucinic(15m) - Rossi(25m)

Mata(25m) - Pirlo - Vidal - Krasic

Ziegler - Chiellini - Alves - Licht

Buffon

See how much better this team is. Same money but we gained 2 quality players. But, instead, we didn't do that and we went for quantity again turning ourselves to the new Genoa with hundreds of new players arriving.
Easily defeated people will say "yeah but we can't afford their wages" - but we can if we had a squad of 25 instead of a squad of 40 mostly useless garbage - or they'll say "yeah but we're not in CL" or "Serie A is not as good as other leagues any more"

We could have had such a side if we aimed for it and stuck to our guns
 

fredrik

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Aug 7, 2011
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the mata transfer is kinda the same as aguero you now. better team playing in cl giving the players huge wages

villareal didnt want to sell rossi to no club. you think another SD could seduce them to sell anyway?
 

Suns

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May 22, 2009
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i see....
what about aguero? we could have gotten him?
You think Manchester City will be on every transfer offering players 10 million in wages? If it wasn't for Man City's abnormal wallet and Marotta's philosophy, we could have a good chance of landing Aguero.
 

Bianconero81

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Jan 26, 2009
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:lol: @ using the daily mail in almost every one of ur posts. Talk about reliability and credibility. Just drop it dude. You are going to get owned in every discussion pertaining to Marotta. Defending the indefensible and excusing the inexcusable is pathetic really!
 

Nardonejuve

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Mar 21, 2010
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fredrikI go back and forth with marotta Ill be honest some moves I feellare good and can become good. But hes made alot of terrible decisions so even if I dont discard him as a human Ill never back him up and doing so Like BN8 said you'll never win so dont waste your energy typing it.
 

fredrik

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Aug 7, 2011
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:lol: @ using the daily mail in almost every one of ur posts. Talk about reliability and credibility. Just drop it dude. You are going to get owned in every discussion pertaining to Marotta. Defending the indefensible and excusing the inexcusable is pathetic really!
it was only to show what kind of wages he was getting. but your right, your are owning me with all your arguments, so i give up.
 

Lo-Pan

Disciple of Gonzo
Feb 11, 2009
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i hope that is sarcasm, fredrik...as your points make sense. You just have a different opinion to the 'im a whiny kunt, who is going to repeat how much i hate marotta over and over again, and if you disagree with me you are wrong. simple. we could easily have signed the likes of aguero and mata, if it wasn't for marrotta, who is singlehandedly destroying our beloved juve who i have supported for near to two weeks now!' club.

A fair few of the more knowledgable and older juve supporters I have known for many moons are content, so far with our mercato, as am I. If people can't understand the very basic differences between...
Juve- presently coming off two of our worst seasons for half a century, no european football, publicized (wrongly) as caught out cheats still in recent memory, wage structure not set up for the modern crop of 7m+ per season hotshots (yet), but still, a glorious history behind us and still enough prestige to stir the hearts of some brilliant players like...Vidal.
OR...

a team like Man city. will easily double whatever wage we can offer. a massively stronger squad to play with. champions league football. a decent chance of winning the title of the most competitive high quality league in the world.

...then why bother even conversing with them?

I see the problems beppe has in terms of attracting the very best players. Pirlo, Vucinic, Vidal, Matri, Pazienza, Lichsteiner, Ziegler, Gabriel Appelt, Sorensen...are for me, all great/good signings this summer. Not so sure about Quagiarella, as it will take him time to regain match sharpness, but i think our original deal with napoli was an obligation to buy, not option. Estigaribbia is an interesting move as is Giaccherini. I am still assuming that Pepe is on his way out, as well as iaquinta, grosso, grygera and amauri.

as anyone with any business sense understands, or simply anyone who knows how shit smells...it hard to repackage shit as something attractive to potential buyers. Only amauri and pepe have done anything of use this last term to attract suitors, and amauri is on huge wages at juve. not due to beppe, i should note.

If pasquato is heading out on loan, it will be a shame, but i am unsure about that, as he was used often preseason and did well. also...he can be used to cover more than just the Left wing forward slot. Play him as a second striker through the middle? If elia comes, its not amazing, more just interesting...if rhodolfo or bruno or alex comes, brilliant news.

Strange stories about Ziegler heading to those damn turks! I hope there is nothing of substance there...as for the first time in ages, we have presently one competent LB in ziegler, who is solid going forward, and one perhaps able to be competent LB in de ceglie, who is solid going forward.

all in all, I am content with beppe for this mercato so far.

In all the years I have been supporting Juve, we often signed good players, but did not regularly spend our way to the top by purchasing the very best in the world. Conte's wonderful juve, in his playing days was bult on hard grit, brilliant spirit, pride in the club, and decent technique throughout the squad.
 

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