Theres some relief, he didnt play in napoli's playoff ties. So his not cuptied.
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Thats bull ital crap. Whilst that is our primary objective, we shouldnt look down upon the other games, especially european ones. Put it this way, it brings lots of benefits.
Firstly we would get the obvious more glory supporters, juves image in europe, for those who live outside italy like most have to face humiliation when they come to their country and get beaten by a second tier team who have players doing second jobs.
Secondly, Money. Believe this or not but we were the 17th Club in europe to make the most money out of european competitions (That includes CL and Europa). we made 22.247 million euros, with bulk coming from TV rights.
Thirdly Coefficients, when we do get into CL, if we do, then being in the right pot for seedings is important, noone would like to be drawn against the big giants and being third in the pot slimming our chances of further progression.
Firstly we would get the obvious more glory supporters, juves image in europe, for those who live outside italy like most have to face humiliation when they come to their country and get beaten by a second tier team who have players doing second jobs.
Secondly, Money. Believe this or not but we were the 17th Club in europe to make the most money out of european competitions (That includes CL and Europa). we made 22.247 million euros, with bulk coming from TV rights.
Thirdly Coefficients, when we do get into CL, if we do, then being in the right pot for seedings is important, noone would like to be drawn against the big giants and being third in the pot slimming our chances of further progression.
Well exactly. Of course its important that we have players that can play in the competitions that we play in. Clearly for all the reasons that you have mentioned, but also for our own pride. We dont want to not be able to play our best team in a competition that is giving us european exposure, if not global exposure. And the better we do in europe, the higher team morale, look what happened last year when we crashed out in the group stage, that actually was the beginning of the end for us
Not worth the time explaining the benefits of Europa because I know them, that's why I made an effort to put the word "realistically" into my post. This Juventus SQUAD doesn't have the capacity to battle for more than one competition, that should be obvious.
I'd happily sacrifice all three of what you mentioned for us to put full concentration into reaching CL. The TV money is devastating and the calibre of players we can attract will increase.
I'd happily sacrifice all three of what you mentioned for us to put full concentration into reaching CL. The TV money is devastating and the calibre of players we can attract will increase.
This squad does have the capacity to battle it out, yes were managed by clowns, yes some of the players aint good enough, but in all honesty I hope we dont go into these matches with this sort of loser mentality. Realistically though your right thats exactly how the guys will go into this, del neri showed that today by giving match fitness to some of his reserve players, thinking it will be an easy ride.
What is Marrotta's plan? To have a younger Juventus with mediocre players? Italian mediocre players?
Lets take a look.. Italy's National team is a bunch of old men thats one of the reasons why they did so bad in the WC...Young players who? Italy are not producing young players that are WC... You have a country that has no young prospects that are worth it and yet you wanna build around it...
An example look at Spain's overall teams age they are pretty young with an exception of few..They built the team in years to be one of the best teams in the worldcup why? Becuase they produced players like Iniesta, Pedro, Fab, Pique, Silva, Villa and other more( they are all young) I looked at it this way when you have a player like Cesc Fab being benched for the NT behind Iniesta and Xavi.. ...Wht young players that can help change the game that are young italians? not many... The youngest player who can change a game for italy now is Balotelli.. he has the skill to do so...
So, Marotta has what plan? i am confused the decision to buy Quag and Aqua being cup tied..DP cant play every game Amuari is hurt and Iaquinta scores a goal every 20 shots he takes recently.... How does that effect us in the Europa..simple we aren't going far i feel on how we are currently performing... Keeping DC idk where that idea came from...
Also, what get me annoyed is Marotta doesn't coach the players Del Neri does so, if Del Neri praises a player for his work( Diego) just an example if you have a player that is on form and you praise him and your GM decides to sell him..to me thats a big middle finger to the coach saying your decision on what players you want to stay and leave don't matter.. DN is the coach he should have a say...( referrance DIEGO was an example on how a coach wanted him to stay and the player as well wanted to same)
Marotta... WHAT HAPPEND TO OUR DEF AND FWDS...he focused so much on the mid that our DEF is just horrible... I say this now Chiellini is a great def. but, he is not a a vocal leader to lead the D like how Canna, Nesta, Maldini, ferrara, thuram are(i see Chiellini like Vidic but, at least Vidic has Ferdinand with him to org. the def as an example)...Those guys where excellent at reading the game and organising the D.... No one is leading the back..
I would never bought Martinez for 15m for that matter i would rather invested in a WC Def.. or a a DEF (not Italian) who could become WC... shit, i would of went for many different players.. I know we are short on money but we could of off loaded Sissoko as well as nothing to provide to the team... DC gone and some other players as well... Rinuado..a player who was 2nd team player for napoli... i would of sold Iaquinta for a striker who is LIKE TREZ...a GOAL SCORER...
but, i do understand where we are with the clubs finance...so can't really blame there but, i thought marotta could of done better with some of his decisions in the market...
Honeslty.. i dont see this team fighting for 3 competitions think its too much..
Our DEF has not been PROGRESSING since serie B but, it has been REGRESSING over the years i feel
Lets take a look.. Italy's National team is a bunch of old men thats one of the reasons why they did so bad in the WC...Young players who? Italy are not producing young players that are WC... You have a country that has no young prospects that are worth it and yet you wanna build around it...
An example look at Spain's overall teams age they are pretty young with an exception of few..They built the team in years to be one of the best teams in the worldcup why? Becuase they produced players like Iniesta, Pedro, Fab, Pique, Silva, Villa and other more( they are all young) I looked at it this way when you have a player like Cesc Fab being benched for the NT behind Iniesta and Xavi.. ...Wht young players that can help change the game that are young italians? not many... The youngest player who can change a game for italy now is Balotelli.. he has the skill to do so...
So, Marotta has what plan? i am confused the decision to buy Quag and Aqua being cup tied..DP cant play every game Amuari is hurt and Iaquinta scores a goal every 20 shots he takes recently.... How does that effect us in the Europa..simple we aren't going far i feel on how we are currently performing... Keeping DC idk where that idea came from...
Also, what get me annoyed is Marotta doesn't coach the players Del Neri does so, if Del Neri praises a player for his work( Diego) just an example if you have a player that is on form and you praise him and your GM decides to sell him..to me thats a big middle finger to the coach saying your decision on what players you want to stay and leave don't matter.. DN is the coach he should have a say...( referrance DIEGO was an example on how a coach wanted him to stay and the player as well wanted to same)
Marotta... WHAT HAPPEND TO OUR DEF AND FWDS...he focused so much on the mid that our DEF is just horrible... I say this now Chiellini is a great def. but, he is not a a vocal leader to lead the D like how Canna, Nesta, Maldini, ferrara, thuram are(i see Chiellini like Vidic but, at least Vidic has Ferdinand with him to org. the def as an example)...Those guys where excellent at reading the game and organising the D.... No one is leading the back..
I would never bought Martinez for 15m for that matter i would rather invested in a WC Def.. or a a DEF (not Italian) who could become WC... shit, i would of went for many different players.. I know we are short on money but we could of off loaded Sissoko as well as nothing to provide to the team... DC gone and some other players as well... Rinuado..a player who was 2nd team player for napoli... i would of sold Iaquinta for a striker who is LIKE TREZ...a GOAL SCORER...
but, i do understand where we are with the clubs finance...so can't really blame there but, i thought marotta could of done better with some of his decisions in the market...
Honeslty.. i dont see this team fighting for 3 competitions think its too much..
Our DEF has not been PROGRESSING since serie B but, it has been REGRESSING over the years i feel
my question is when are we going to buy the so called champions?
i mean even IF (and thats a big if right now) qualify for the championsleague we will get around 20 mil euros right???
that said we would use most of the options on the loans because the team performed.....
so let's say we will sign pepe for 10 mil motta for 4 mil Aquilani for 16mil and maybe quag for 10mil? not sure about the numbers but they should be around that...
that means we would be paying around 40 mil for players that are already in this squad.... we would still need at least a leftback, maybe another dm when we sell one of sissoko or melo , a delpiero heir and a cf.....
so without adding anything to this more than limited squad we need to pay 40 mil next summer and with the money from the cl we still need another 20 mil (and thats around the money we spend net this year)
so where is all the cash for the big players coming from? how are we going to buy players like dzeko and co? how are we going to pay their wages?
and i don't want to even think about not qualifying for the championsleague next year.....
marotta better has a plan that most of us don't see right now.... we def. need cl football and a sold out stadium.... to earn some cash......
srsly i'm not whining or complaining i just thought about where will juve's path go in the near future..... every year since 2006 we hear next year we will be compete for something....... this team right now is even worser than the 2006 juve in serie b. and thats what is worrying.... we never managed to replace players like neddy camo and trez....and still haven't wound a dp heir
i mean even IF (and thats a big if right now) qualify for the championsleague we will get around 20 mil euros right???
that said we would use most of the options on the loans because the team performed.....
so let's say we will sign pepe for 10 mil motta for 4 mil Aquilani for 16mil and maybe quag for 10mil? not sure about the numbers but they should be around that...
that means we would be paying around 40 mil for players that are already in this squad.... we would still need at least a leftback, maybe another dm when we sell one of sissoko or melo , a delpiero heir and a cf.....
so without adding anything to this more than limited squad we need to pay 40 mil next summer and with the money from the cl we still need another 20 mil (and thats around the money we spend net this year)
so where is all the cash for the big players coming from? how are we going to buy players like dzeko and co? how are we going to pay their wages?
and i don't want to even think about not qualifying for the championsleague next year.....
marotta better has a plan that most of us don't see right now.... we def. need cl football and a sold out stadium.... to earn some cash......
srsly i'm not whining or complaining i just thought about where will juve's path go in the near future..... every year since 2006 we hear next year we will be compete for something....... this team right now is even worser than the 2006 juve in serie b. and thats what is worrying.... we never managed to replace players like neddy camo and trez....and still haven't wound a dp heir
Juventus Have Always Won Fairly - Giuseppe Marotta
Juventus general director Giuseppe Marotta has responded to Maurizio Zamparini, who claimed "Inter are the new Juventus".
Zamparini's rant came in the wake of his club Palermo's 2-1 loss to Inter on Sunday.
He said Inter had become the new Juve for the power and influence they have been enjoying.
However, Marotta has wasted no time in striking back as he defends the club from the Rosanero president's accusations.
"In relation to power being attributed to Juventus in the past from some director, I only know that Juventus have always won fairly in their history," Marotta told Itasportpress.it.
Talk quickly moved onto season objectives though as Marotta did not want to elaborate too much on what Zamparini had said.
"Our objective is to remain in the top half of the table and we are relying on the group we have to win," he said.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/ital...entus-have-always-won-fairly-giuseppe-marotta
Juventus general director Giuseppe Marotta has responded to Maurizio Zamparini, who claimed "Inter are the new Juventus".
Zamparini's rant came in the wake of his club Palermo's 2-1 loss to Inter on Sunday.
He said Inter had become the new Juve for the power and influence they have been enjoying.
However, Marotta has wasted no time in striking back as he defends the club from the Rosanero president's accusations.
"In relation to power being attributed to Juventus in the past from some director, I only know that Juventus have always won fairly in their history," Marotta told Itasportpress.it.
Talk quickly moved onto season objectives though as Marotta did not want to elaborate too much on what Zamparini had said.
"Our objective is to remain in the top half of the table and we are relying on the group we have to win," he said.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/ital...entus-have-always-won-fairly-giuseppe-marotta
I think the plan is falling into place quite well. We get to try out several players before we decide to buy and you never know we may not exercise half of them even if we have a decent season because if we qualify for the CL or even better we may be able to attract better players in the same position for less. That may not be good for gelling or team harmony but one or two out won't be that shocking.
I really believe Jorge Martinez's purchase was a buttering up for Catania for their true prize asset who I think has the potential to be ridiculously World Class...Maxi Lopez. This guy is a screaming buy and we'll probably be able to snap him up for 15 as well. I think Jorge will be a good squad player or maybe even better...who knows!
We'll shore up our wingbacks next year and make one acquisition in attack and one on the wings unless Pepe or Martinez secure a convincing starting spot.
In total next year we won't be spending more than 75 mil (including buy options on loans) but it will be worth it and the team would have had this season to gel and the improvements will be a lot clearer and the flops will be easily removable since they most likely would have come on loan.
We'll do great as long as Krasic stays fit. Thats the key kids.
I really believe Jorge Martinez's purchase was a buttering up for Catania for their true prize asset who I think has the potential to be ridiculously World Class...Maxi Lopez. This guy is a screaming buy and we'll probably be able to snap him up for 15 as well. I think Jorge will be a good squad player or maybe even better...who knows!
We'll shore up our wingbacks next year and make one acquisition in attack and one on the wings unless Pepe or Martinez secure a convincing starting spot.
In total next year we won't be spending more than 75 mil (including buy options on loans) but it will be worth it and the team would have had this season to gel and the improvements will be a lot clearer and the flops will be easily removable since they most likely would have come on loan.
We'll do great as long as Krasic stays fit. Thats the key kids.
I'm not entirely dissatisfied with Marotta. He has brought down the average age, and the wages. I just do not know why Diego and Giovinco both had to leave.. And why don't we have Criscito? Now we are fucked up with De Ceglie and Traore.. Both have a lack of defensing skills. He could at least tried to get Bocchetti. At the other side, i'm happy with players like Krasic, Bonucci and Quagliarella.
It's also good to see that management prefer to purchase Serie A players. I think Marotta could help Juve to the Scudetto!
FORZA JUVE! :scarf:
It's also good to see that management prefer to purchase Serie A players. I think Marotta could help Juve to the Scudetto!
FORZA JUVE! :scarf:
