Bjerknes

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Now if u look at both those two articles, I think we can appreciate Marotta's work in building a "new" foundation.

There are two ways of looking at this, one is clubs dish out money now, before the new rule is in effect. Hence milan buying stars, Man City etc.

Or, build a good wage structure now, so that more money can be spent in a transfer market where clubs can't spend unlimited funds. Which means prices for the star players will go down.

Dzeko for 40mil? In the future transfer market where owner's capital injection is limited. Imagine Milan, with the big star wages and Man City. If they don't collect enough revenues they may not make enough margin and thus may have little to spend in the market.

So if this rule does come into effect, Marotta may have just given us a good base to be competitive in future transfer market.
I don't think that anybody has a problem with reducing wage expenditure. It's the players we signed that cause the outrage, especially since we have to pay a premium for them considering they arrived from rival clubs. And another thing to consider is that if we do want to buy these loaned players, like Pepe and Qualiarella, we will have to offer them larger contracts than they already have. Just the fact that we are Juve makes their supposed value rise. So you have to look at it from all the angles.

To me, I'd rather sign a young talent and tie him down to a meager contract instead of buying a Quag who already has inflated wages for his supposed skill level, which isn't even that great.
 

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I don't think that anybody has a problem with reducing wage expenditure. It's the players we signed that cause the outrage, especially since we have to pay a premium for them considering they arrived from rival clubs. And another thing to consider is that if we do want to buy these loaned players, like Pepe and Qualiarella, we will have to offer them larger contracts than they already have. Just the fact that we are Juve makes their supposed value rise. So you have to look at it from all the angles.

To me, I'd rather sign a young talent and tie him down to a meager contract instead of buying a Quag who already has inflated wages for his supposed skill level, which isn't even that great.
Word, it's what Bayern used to do prior to buying guys like Ribery and Robben.

Hoeness literally said that it made more sense to buy one great player costing 25ME than it is to buy 5 mediocre players that cost 30ME....

And anyone who says that's dumb should be kicked in the dick.
 

Bianconero81

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This guys is a nationalistic pig with a defeatist mentality. We bought 11 new players, and 4 of them are internationals. Did you see the way the Azzurri performed? Being part of the national set-up doesn't guarantee quality, or mean that the player is good. I could be a Maltese electrician playing for the national team! Does that mean I'm a good player?

Selling Diego for 15.5 Million to balance the books? We made a huge loss on him, which could've been avoided in the first place without the unnecessary signings of Pepe and Martinez. Had we kept faith with Gio and given Camoranesi another year, we would've been able to keep Diego and have Gio, Camo, Krasic, and Lanzafame for the wings. Much better than what we currently have, isn't it?

Panic buying in the final week of the market? Attempting to get guys like Borriello? Where is the ambition?

Saying that he will still attempt to go for Dzeko next season, but that he will probably end up @ Bayern. That's a defeatist mentality; you've already lost the deal before going into negotiations with this kind of attitude. It's like Tyson Gay saying, gee, I'm gonna do my best but I'm still probably going to end up losing to Usain Bolt. What's the point of even being in the race at that point?
 

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This guys is a nationalistic pig with a defeatist mentality. We bought 11 new players, and 4 of them are internationals. Did you see the way the Azzurri performed? Being part of the national set-up doesn't guarantee quality, or mean that the player is good. I could be a Maltese electrician playing for the national team! Does that mean I'm a good player?

Selling Diego for 15.5 Million to balance the books? We made a huge loss on him, which could've been avoided in the first place without the unnecessary signings of Pepe and Martinez. Had we kept faith with Gio and given Camoranesi another year, we would've been able to keep Diego and have Gio, Camo, Krasic, and Lanzafame for the wings. Much better than what we currently have, isn't it?

Panic buying in the final week of the market? Attempting to get guys like Borriello? Where is the ambition?

Saying that he will still attempt to go for Dzeko next season, but that he will probably end up @ Bayern. That's a defeatist mentality; you've already lost the deal before going into negotiations with this kind of attitude. It's like Tyson Gay saying, gee, I'm gonna do my best but I'm still probably going to end up losing to Usain Bolt. What's the point of even being in the race at that point?
LOL, well said. +rep
 

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Luciano Moggi Slams Juventus' Transfer Campaign As "Useless"​

Luciano Moggi is not impressed with Juventus' summer signings.
By Salvatore Landolina
Sep 3, 2010 11:13:00 AM


Former Juventus director Luciano Moggi has been brisk in putting the downers on the club's summer transfer campaign.

La Vecchia Signora have already come under the microscope from a number of critics who raised questions on director Giuseppe Marotta's movements.

And Moggi has come up with some of his own.

"Juventus did everything they shouldn't have done to return to being competitive," he wrote in his Tuttomercatoweb.com column.

"People ask me what I would have done... nothing. The directors have acquired players who were reserves in other teams. One example is Leandro Rinaudo. It's the same with Simone Pepe.

"Juve's transfer market resembles that of a provincial team. They don't have the power to attract players like they once did. And they are a club that fails to protect players who often come under the microscope.

"They need quality. It makes no sense to buy a load of players who are useless to the project."

Goal.com
 

Showdown25

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Apr 17, 2009
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True say. Even if we don't buy these loaned players in the summer we will still have to replace them which basically puts us back at square one.

Which means 11 new players will still be needed next year. Oh well, here's to hoping Del Neri can surprise us all with this group.
 

Klin

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May 27, 2009
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I wonder when will this guy shut up and realize that his opinion doesn't matter because he's unemployed and banned from football.
 

Bjerknes

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More material for bashing and knee jerking. When will this insect shut up?
Sure, but this sort of squashes the whole "Marotta is taking the Moggi route" notion that is being purported constantly on the forum nowadays.

Nothing he said is unreasonable. Of course we need quality, but yet again it is the person, not the idea, that is attacked.
 

Cronios

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Jun 7, 2004
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Luciano Moggi Slams Juventus' Transfer Campaign As "Useless"​

Luciano Moggi is not impressed with Juventus' summer signings.
By Salvatore Landolina
Sep 3, 2010 11:13:00 AM


Former Juventus director Luciano Moggi has been brisk in putting the downers on the club's summer transfer campaign.

La Vecchia Signora have already come under the microscope from a number of critics who raised questions on director Giuseppe Marotta's movements.

And Moggi has come up with some of his own.

"Juventus did everything they shouldn't have done to return to being competitive," he wrote in his Tuttomercatoweb.com column.

"People ask me what I would have done... nothing. The directors have acquired players who were reserves in other teams. One example is Leandro Rinaudo. It's the same with Simone Pepe.

"Juve's transfer market resembles that of a provincial team. They don't have the power to attract players like they once did. And they are a club that fails to protect players who often come under the microscope.

"They need quality. It makes no sense to buy a load of players who are useless to the project."

Goal.com
Once again the great transfer master is in complete agreement with my stance.
Nice of him to voice the concers our amateur management need to adjust:
-quality>quantity
-the adoption of all those small time players.
 

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