Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
imagine we actually bought lissandro for 11 mil, and simply not have a budged for expensive summer signings


THEN, Jovetic wants out, fiorentina accepts 25 mil


THE SAME PEOPLE who are all for Lissandro now, would crucify marotta because now we can get Jovetic anymore.


YES, thats how pathetic little human beeings you are
 

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Jul 11, 2006
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70 + mil spent on strikers not factoring wages, and i dare anyone to tell me one striker that we have that is good enough.

Matri, Quag, Vucinic, Gio, Bendtner, Borriello, Toni, Martinez....
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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70 + mil spent on strikers not factoring wages, and i dare anyone to tell me one striker that we have that is good enough.

Matri, Quag, Vucinic, Gio, Bendtner, Borriello, Toni, Martinez....
'I bought all these players and all I got was this lousey undefeated scudetto winning campaign"
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
i love how everyone here calls krasic a failed signing, yet i was the only one when we signed him that called him out on being a flop in the making.

perhaps i should go back to his thread and dig the out the ass kissing posts from the same members that were calling him a great signings and now blaming marotta?

the same goes for aquilani actually. so many people were happy for that signing. callinf it a steal and now they blame marotta for a failed signings.

as if marotta could have known the future.....
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
125,381
i love how everyone here calls krasic a failed signing, yet i was the only one when we signed him that called him out on being a flop in the making.

perhaps i should go back to his thread and dig the out the ass kissing posts from the same members that were calling him a great signings and now blaming marotta?

the same goes for aquilani actually. so many people were happy for that signing. callinf it a steal and now they blame marotta for a failed signings.

as if marotta could have known the future.....
I believe you but Marotta's mistake during that transfer was delaying the Dzeko move until the FIGC came up with that rule and we ended up choosing between one of Dzeko and Krasic.
 

Fake Melo

Ghost Division
Sep 3, 2010
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In the summer:

1- we were seeking a fine CB sub to rotate with our 3, in order to rest them.
Marotta signed Lucio for free, an experienced CB, but one that seemed to be retiring from top football.
Some said he is finished, some said that he will return like Pirlo, personally i asked for a decent investment for the CB role and no cheap quick fixes, bottom line Marotta's decision backfired, no without Chiellini our defence is abused by noones and we lost a number of matches.
Every single point lost might or might not count in the end, but its on Marotta's shoulders as he has failed to provide what we needed taking the extra risk to loan out all the other option like Sorensen and trust that Peluso has any ammount of defensive solidarity to play in this level.
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A proven non Italian classy CB, that can offer a solution here and now?
Free of charge?
Well done Marotta!
Though i would prefer someone 2 years younger, we can always find a free agent later...
This Euro has proved what i was saying for years, Italy does not makes defenders as before and we need to look elsewhere, at least for one CB.
http://forum.juventuz.org/threads/35841-Lucio?p=3759286&viewfull=1#post3759286

:agree:
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Surely no need to call people pathetic just for disagreeing, Zach? :confused:
Actually, there is. They dont just disagree, they are hypocrits and i hate that.
Basically, they are now mad at marotta for not buying Lissandro.
But if we would sign Lissandro, and thus eliminate the chance of a summer signing up front, and Jovetic would become avaibale for 25 mil...
...the very same people would be mad that he bought lissandro, and now cant buy Jovetic. They would call it trowing money away, like they say it now of quag and matri, despite quag having a fantastic first season preinjury, and matri beeing on nearly 1 goal every 2 games for us.

How about calling people depressive instead?
No, they are pathetic hypocrits, the only really depressive one is you, because you dont limit the negative attitude to this topic, but carry it like a viral disease all over the forum. I'm totally expecting it to infest the live thread once again, later today

'I bought all these players and all I got was this lousey undefeated scudetto winning campaign"
:D

i love how everyone here calls krasic a failed signing, yet i was the only one when we signed him that called him out on being a flop in the making.

perhaps i should go back to his thread and dig the out the ass kissing posts from the same members that were calling him a great signings and now blaming marotta?

the same goes for aquilani actually. so many people were happy for that signing. callinf it a steal and now they blame marotta for a failed signings.

as if marotta could have known the future.....
I still consider Krasic a failure from Del Neri. He would be a good player in a 4-4-2 IF he managed to work around the marking on him.
Under conte, he was allready at a horrible form. very sad. I liked krasic alot, especially for picking us over the rich ass team, when we were not an attractive team
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
I believe you but Marotta's mistake during that transfer was delaying the Dzeko move until the FIGC came up with that rule and we ended up choosing between one of Dzeko and Krasic.
i don't remember much about the figc ruling, but my understanding was that it was passed very quickly right after the world cup, which caught many teams by suprise. this didn't leave much time for teams to finalize deals.

in december 2010 almost everyone was happy with the signings of quag and krasic. calling krasic great, and quag a steal from napoli. no one could have known what was going to happen in the next few days and months...
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
This is new Zach, i see you going on and on abiut the possibility of signing Jovetic i thought we will have a 4 mil budget this summer :confused:
That was if we bought lissandro ;)

If we dont, its 15 mil, if we sell quag, we'd be looking at atleast 25 mil.

IF an interesting opportunity arises, surely we could attempt at it

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i don't remember much about the figc ruling, but my understanding was that it was passed very quickly right after the world cup, which caught many teams by suprise. this didn't leave much time for teams to finalize deals.

in december 2010 almost everyone was happy with the signings of quag and krasic. calling krasic great, and quag a steal from napoli. no one could have known what was going to happen in the next few days and months...
Like the big fat season ending injury for quag, and del neri's incompetence to get around krasic getting tripple marked
 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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i don't remember much about the figc ruling, but my understanding was that it was passed very quickly right after the world cup, which caught many teams by suprise. this didn't leave much time for teams to finalize deals.

in december 2010 almost everyone was happy with the signings of quag and krasic. calling krasic great, and quag a steal from napoli. no one could have known what was going to happen in the next few days and months...
We started negotiations with Wolfsburg and CSKA before the World Cup. That's why things dragged.
 

MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
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70 + mil spent on strikers not factoring wages, and i dare anyone to tell me one striker that we have that is good enough.

Matri, Quag, Vucinic, Gio, Bendtner, Borriello, Toni, Martinez....
Good enough for what though? To cure cancer?

What were our goals and how did they stop us from achieving them so far?
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
That was if we bought lissandro ;)

If we dont, its 15 mil, if we sell quag, we'd be looking at atleast 25 mil.

IF an interesting opportunity arises, surely we could attempt at it

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Like the big fat season ending injury for quag, and del neri's incompetence to get around krasic getting tripple marked
krasic is a horrible player and i don't rate him at all. he's not doing so well in turkey according to turkish fans. not a smart player at all

you have to know a player is trouble when he can't form 2 sentences of italian after living in the country for a year

We started negotiations with Wolfsburg and CSKA before the World Cup. That's why things dragged.
yeah, that's true. but dragged out negotioans is an classic trait of marotta, and many other italian directors, unforutnalty.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Krasic intelligence is his biggest weakness, that is true. Its a trait i didnt pay attention as much back then as i do now.

Still, a well managed one dimensional player can still be good for the team.
 

Hust

Senior Member
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May 29, 2005
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Krasic intelligence is his biggest weakness, that is true. Its a trait i didnt pay attention as much back then as i do now.

Still, a well managed one dimensional player can still be good for the team.
Intelligence and that he had horrible technical abilities.


Kick and run.

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Not as bad as you portray it. Please revisit the scoring records of Matri and Quag and you'll see that it's really not all that bad. Quite good actually.

We do need upgrades, though, but they were never gonna come in freakin' January. And we were super close to getting RVP last season, but he simply wanted to play for Manchester United. Currently, the EPL is a more attractive place for players, and he was probably settled in England as well.

Next summer is gonna be all about the striker's department. Llorente on his way, and there are no other upgrades required elsewhere in the team. He'll bring in someone great next to Llorente next season.

Oh, and he also brought Giovinco this summer, I thought you were a fan of his?
18 million dollars for a 10 goals a season striker.

bad enough for me.

And Gio is an SS...not an outright goal scorer.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
42,251
His technical ability was fine, he just didnt had the brain to make it more then one dimensional.

And his "kick it past defender and beat in a sprint" was actually not bad.

asamoah does that to, but knows when he isnt getting past, to cut back and pass, or try a cross to get a corner from the deflection
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
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His technical ability was fine, he just didnt had the brain to make it more then one dimensional.

And his "kick it past defender and beat in a sprint" was actually not bad.

asamoah does that to, but knows when he isnt getting past, to cut back and pass, or try a cross to get a corner from the deflection
Yeah, for the first half of the season until teams figured out how to defend against it.

That right there is a clear indication how piss poor that player was.

No ability to beat a man 1 v 1, crossing sucked, first touch/passing sucked...the guy was as limited as limited could be...ergo lacked TECHNICAL as well as intelligence.
 

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