Giuseppe Marotta (90 Viewers)

[Cronios]

That would presuppose knowledge of Lisandro's availability 6 months ahead.

We can't demand of the Great Man that he should have the clairvoyance and psychic abilities of Cronios now, can we?

like he doesnt have anything else to keep him busy, right?
He is only paid a few millions to care only how to allocate our budget in the two transfer windows...

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Asamoah turned out to be very important though.

but still, we ended up using him out of position and did not avoided to buy a dedicated LWB/LCB anyways, (which was yet another compromise)
Whilst all the while suffered much more by neglecting our priority (finisher)
Suriously, dont you think that we wouldnt be in a better position now, if we had Cavani instead of Asamoah and Isla?

 

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[JCK]

Asamoah turned out to be very important though.

Can you imagine how important he can be if he were playing in his position?

 

[ZoSo]

That would presuppose knowledge of Lisandro's availability 6 months ahead.

We can't demand of the Great Man that he should have the clairvoyance and psychic abilities of Cronios now, can we?

He could've just taken the chance

 

[JCK]

He could've just taken the chance

And how are we going to pay isla's and Peluso's fees?

 

[ZoSo]

And how are we going to pay isla's and Peluso's fees?

What?

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On a side note, this is the 2nd time he has fucked up getting an awesome player from OL. Bastos & Lisandro

 

[Jem83]

Suriously, dont you think that we wouldnt be in a better position now, if we had Cavani instead of Asamoah and Isla?

Cavani costs 60 million. Then there's high wages and taxes.

The transfer fee of Isla and Asamoah will be 36m euros. There's quite a difference there, wouldn't you agree?

 

[Cheesio]

Cavani costs 60 million. Then there's high wages and taxes.

The transfer fee of Isla and Asamoah will be 36m euros. There's quite a difference there, wouldn't you agree?

Think how many strikers out there we could've got for 36 mil .
A striker who's impact would've been greater than Asamoah as LWB and Isla.
Also if you factors wages, you should take in account the jersey sales, the marketing opportunities....

 

[JuveJay]

go check the facts and come again...

Wait, when did you start using facts in discussion?

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Think how many strikers out there we could've got for 36 mil .
A striker who's impact would've been greater than Asamoah as LWB and Isla.
Also if you factors wages, you should take in account the jersey sales, the marketing opportunities....

It'll be €36m over 2-3 years (depending on c/o agreement), which is not the same as paying €30m+ for one player.

 

[ZoSo]

Wait, when did you start using facts in discussion?

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It'll be €36m over 2-3 years (depending on c/o agreement), which is not the same as paying €30m+ for one player.

I don't think we would pay €30m upfront for a striker though...

 

[Jem83]

Just checked, Napoli's asking price for Cavani is 63m euros: http://www.tribalfootball.com/artic...e-laurentiis-sets-cavani-asking-price-3719091

Here's some of what what we've gotten for that price:

Asamoah and Isla: 36 (over 3 seasons even)
Vidal: 10.5
Lichtsteiner: 10
Giovinco: 11
= 67,5

Call me crazy, but I'm a much bigger fan of how we're operating in the market now under Marotta than how we faired under Secco. Secco would've spent those 60-ish million on Cavani if he had the chance to do so. We all saw how far such a strategy took us

My main reason for loving Marotta and Paratici so much is their ability to, along with Conte, build a proper team.

A world class striker + 10 morons is not a proper team. That's Milan right now. "El Sharaawy & co."

That's not how I wanna see Juve. I want a WC striker just as much as the next guy, but not at the expense of being a great team.

 

[Cheesio]

It'll be €36m over 2-3 years (depending on c/o agreement), which is not the same as paying €30m+ for one player.

All deals are payed in installements as far as i know.

 

[ZoSo]

Just checked, Napoli's asking price for Cavani is 63m euros: http://www.tribalfootball.com/artic...e-laurentiis-sets-cavani-asking-price-3719091

Here's some of what what we've gotten for that price:

Asamoah and Isla: 36 (over 3 seasons even)
Vidal: 10.5
Lichtsteiner: 10
Giovinco: 11
= 67,5

Call me crazy, but I'm a much bigger fan of how we're operating in the market now under Marotta than how we faired under Secco. Secco would've spent those 60-ish million on Cavani if he had the chance to do so. We all saw how far such a strategy took us

My main reason for loving Marotta and Paratici so much is their ability to, along with Conte, build a proper team.

A world class striker + 10 morons is not a proper team. That's Milan right now. "El Sharaawy & co."

That's not how I wanna see Juve. I want a WC striker just as much as the next guy, but not at the expense of being a great team.

I agree, but being completely incompetent in regards to signing strikers for CL i.e. Anelka instead of Lisandro/Drogba/Villa is not the way to go either.

 

[JuveJay]

I don't think we would pay €30m upfront for a striker though...

Maybe I wasn't clear, I wasn't speaking about installments. Because Asamoah and Isla are co-ownerships we would pay for the halves (assume these are in 3 installments also), and then when the clubs agree to the second halves being bought (could be end of this season or end of the season after) we would then pay the fees. So we are buying those two players over a 2-3 year period, for their overall transfer value. With installments it could be we take 5-6 years to pay for them fully.

For a €30m+ striker that money is allocated in one move, regardless of installments. We don't even know if there is a fixed price agreement for the other halves, do we?

 

[Jem83]

I agree, but being completely incompetent in regards to signing strikers for CL i.e. Anelka instead of Lisandro/Drogba/Villa is not the way to go either.

The Anelka deal leaves a bitter taste in the mouth of even the most ardent Marotta supporter.

The Society switched off all the lights in the Sauna late last night, and we just sat in the main room in silence. The fireplace was lit, and there was set aside plenty of time for contemplation.

After awhile, we realized that this is all just a test of faith. We believe that the Great Man works in mysterious ways sometimes, and that it'll all be good in the end.

 

[Klovn]

Can you imagine how important he can be if he were playing in his position?

Yes, but who do you want him to play instead of?

 

[ZoSo]

Maybe I wasn't clear, I wasn't speaking about installments. Because Asamoah and Isla are co-ownerships we would pay for the halves (assume these are in 3 installments also), and then when the clubs agree to the second halves being bought (could be end of this season or end of the season after) we would then pay the fees. So we are buying those two players over a 2-3 year period, for their overall transfer value.

For a €30m+ striker that money is allocated in one move, regardless of installments. We don't even know if there is a fixed price agreement for the other halves, do we?

To be frank, I don't think it makes a differences as the striker is paid for over 2-3 years probably. Maybe I just don't understand properly or you're not clear enough

Those other halves might even end up being more expensive, considering they will have their profiles increased while playing at Juve and they are also improving too.

The Anelka deal leaves a bitter taste in the mouth of even the most ardent Marotta supporter.

The Society switched off all the lights in the Sauna late last night, and we just sat in the main room in silence. The fireplace was lit, and there was set aside plenty of time for contemplation.

After awhile, we realized that this is all just a test of faith. We believe that the Great Man works in mysterious ways sometimes, and that it'll all be good in the end.

Not sure if I can see a light at the end of the tunnel with this one.

 

[Fint]

The Anelka deal leaves a bitter taste in the mouth of even the most ardent Marotta supporter.

Life teaches us that you need the bad to appreciate the good and vice-versa, Marotta knows this and that's why there's generally an average signing for every 2/3 masterful ones.

Its a shame that his great teachings are incomprehensible to some, they'll see the light eventually.

 

[Jem83]

Well said, JFG.

Your words are a welcome salve in this; our darkest of hours.

 

[JuveJay]

To be frank, I don't think it makes a differences as the striker is paid for over 2-3 years probably. Maybe I just don't understand properly or you're not clear enough

Yeah I'm probably not being clear.

Top striker - €30m, split over 3 years (2012, 2013, 2014)

Asamoah/Isla - €18m combined for halves, split over 3 years (2012, 2013, 2014)
Asamoah/Isla - remaining €18m, bought in either 2013 or 2014, split over 3 years (2013, 2014, 2015 or 2014, 2015, 2016)

So you see, if we buy out the second halves this summer it would be spent over 4 years, if we do it next summer then it would be spent over 5 years. So for co-owned players the money is spread over a longer period than spending it all on one outright transfer.

It's one reason why clubs do co-ownerships and loan-to-buys, it spreads deals out longer than the allowed 3 installments.

 

[Fint]

Well said, JFG.

Your words are a welcome salve in this; our darkest of hours.

I'm merely a candlestick, Marotta is the light.