Nov 1, 2002
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We will get a discount on Quags im sure. Matri depends how well he will do.

We bought no fullbacks because we couldn't get rid of the ones we have in this window.
yes i think we will get discount because of his injury.
nobody will buy our fullbacks so why not send them to Conte's Siena :D . DC and good back up but the rest is below average, we had some players who cover and do well enough like Pessotto and Birindelli but the current players are doing damage instead of covering :(
 

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May 11, 2004
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Milan & Inter Dealt Like Champions In The Transfer Market, Juventus Dealt Like Pretenders
While two of Italy's biggest club sought to fill gaps in their squad, another did their best to right off their Champions League hopes, as Goal.com's Kris Voakes explains.

There were some big winners and even bigger losers to be found across Europe in the January transfer window, and not just in relation to a certain €41 million striker with less top flight goals to his name than Amauri has scored for Juventus. The Bianconeri themselves may well have offloaded their misfiring forward, but that may well prove to be the single positive from what has been a disastrous month on and off the field for the one-time transfer kings.

With their bid for a return to the Champions League having been compromised by a return of only four points from five games so far in 2011, their dealings in the market have been even more shameful. With issues to resolve in both full-back slots, cover needed at centre-back, new life due on the left side of midfield and a proxy for Fabio Quagliarella required up front, it is arguable that the club has barely met any of the targets they were set a month ago.

This is Juventus Football Club everybody… Juventus Football Club. You know them, 27/29-time champions of Italy and winners of 51 major trophies in total. That Juventus. And they’ve managed to add in the past month a 33-year-old centre-forward who could hardly hit a barn door with a banjo these days, the reserve centre-back of a club struggling in the bottom half of the Bundesliga, and a striker who this weekend chalked up only his second ever 10-goal top flight return.

So where was the left winger? What about the chronic full-back problem? There wasn’t even any real intention ever expressed by the club to go out and fix these obvious issues. They will now have to make do with the right-footed trio of Simone Pepe, Jorge Martinez and Claudio Marchisio in a form of ballottaggio for the left midfield slot while at full-back they are stuck with Zdenek Grygera, Marco Motta, Hasan Salihamidzic, Fabio Grosso, Armand Traore and, once fit, Paolo De Ceglie, all of whom have struggled to various degrees when called upon this season.

Up top they have plugged the gap in terms of numbers at least by introducing Matri and Toni, but the Cagliari striker has cost them €2.5 million for a loan – yes, a loan! – and the former Italy front man has scored eight goals in two years. Matri may well prove to be a decent acquisition, but he hardly strikes as being the kind of player who will score the goals necessary to push Juve back into Champions League contention, especially when you consider five of his 11 goals this season have come against Bari, Brescia and Lecce, all of whom sit in the bottom four of Serie A right now.

Here in Lombardy, the twin forces of Milan and Inter have almost served as perfect examples as to the kind of January that the Old Lady could have had. With the Rossoneri needing experienced defensive cover, new legs at full-back and a rugged midfielder who can dictate the play, they promptly went out and acquired Nicola Legrottaglie, Didac Vila and Mark van Bommel. Add to the mix Urby Emanuelson and Antonio Cassano, and you’ve got a pretty convincing month’s business. Sure, there are question marks over the signing of Legrottaglie in particular, but if he plays five games in the remainder of the season and Milan win the title, he’ll have done his job.

Inter have also dealt well. They reinforced their numbers in defence and midfield with Andrea Ranocchia and Houssine Kharja respectively before moving quickly to secure highly-rated left back Yuto Nagatomo after the latest Davide Santon horror show against Palermo on Sunday. And of course, there was the signing of Giampaolo Pazzini to freshen things up in attack.

Which brings us back to Juve. For while it would have been a struggle to persuade Sampdoria president Riccardo Garrone to part with Pazzini given his falling out with former charge Giuseppe Marotta last summer, his resolve should at least have been tested with a big money bid. After all, Pazzini would have been perfect for the Old Lady given that Serie A rules forbade them from signing number one target Edin Dezko. Add to that their indifference to the potential signings of Nagatomo and, more glaringly, the virtual free agent Cassano, and one is left wondering exactly why Marotta and Luigi Del Neri sat and twiddled their thumbs for a month while near-perfect fits were allowed to move to rival clubs.

Juventus still talk the talk. They say they want Champions League football again. They reckon they want to be winning Scudetti once more in the coming years. But right now, they are not walking the walk. The club is being run with less direction and conviction than any other club in the top eight in Italy. Juventus Football Club will once again be missing from the Champions League in 2011-12, and the origins for that failure will be traced back to January 2011.
Nice article Turk, how long did it take you to write it?
 

Cronios

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Jun 7, 2004
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Don't blame Marotta, blame Agnelli and Elkann.

How do you buy someone with no money? No one will take a loan deal for a great player (there are exceptions however - feuds, disagreements, etc) but still its very, very difficult.

In the summer he signed Krasic, Bonucci, and Martinez. He got us Quag, Aquilani, Pepe, etc.

Like c'mon guys, lets see what he can do when he has the money and resources at his disposal.
He spend about 20mil in total considering initial fee and player's halves for Bonucci, which is a decent sum, he also spent about 20mil+ in the Matri agreement, also overspent on Martinez who offered little to nothing, never justified the sell off of Diego and still failed to sell Tiago and i m sure that we gave to Toni+Barzagli a larger salary than they ought to have.

Marotta had some millions at his disposal and failed to manage them, not only optimally, but decently.
We can only guess about his degree of guilty, concerning the guidelines of our pathetic owners...
 
Apr 29, 2006
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I am not happy with Marotta either. I think he lacks a lot of the natural abilites a great manager has. I hate to point it out, but Galliani schooled him in this transfer market.
I did not see some scouting activity either... There are a bunch of local EU strikers, that are hardly going to cost more than 1-2 mils (Dembele, Levski comes to mind),are in the form of their lives and, at least mentally, are on the go. They would sell their souls for the 5 or 10 games to prove themselves in this jersey. And even if they do lack the qualities we need, I doubt Matri has them as well. Not to mention salaries...
There is no point in the Amauri/Matri swap. Or at least not enough to justify the fees involved. Amauri might be in a hole and I hate him no less than any other fan, but at least he had trained with the team for some time and the wise bet was to give him the season. He wasn't sold in the beginning, which I still fail to understand and now things are worse, but not only because of him.
Will it make a difference if we had finished 5th with Matri or 6th with Amauri?And worst is that i am willing to bet, that if they were both in form and playing for the same team, Amauri would be the 1st choice.
We couldn't find even one midfielder or defender to add to the squad. Not one. Another Sorensen perhaps or is it too much to ask? What would be a good rate for a GM - 1 Sorensen per 2 years? And what are the costs here? 1 Toni, 1 Barzagli ... 1 Matri?
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Milan & Inter Dealt Like Champions In The Transfer Market, Juventus Dealt Like Pretenders
While two of Italy's biggest club sought to fill gaps in their squad, another did their best to right off their Champions League hopes, as Goal.com's Kris Voakes explains.
Can't say I disagree with this article, even though it is Goal.com. Pretty much spot on when it comes to the January market and the outlook for the remainder of the season.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,169
But Andy, don't forget we had no money :rolleyes:

As if Cassano cost that much to acquire from Samp, and he would've definitely made a difference to this team.
Of course we have money. Installment plans are a license to spend recklessly. Why? Because, uhhh.... because you're paying less money up front! Spend that cheese, bling bling, Marotta! :spliff:


To me, Cassano was his only mistake in the January mercato...
But again, maybe Garrone didn't want to deal with Marotta!
So you're cool with the fullbacks we have? Interesting.
 

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