JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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but Jay, they are retracting the cash we were given for those players we were not interested to sell and had to sell on the cheap.
its like getting dybala for 40mil, but to make the transfer happen, we had to sell them Vidal for 15 mil, instead of 36 Bayern gave us and then, those 15mil even count against the 40 mil we had to give for dybala.
yes we only give them 25mil plus a player, in that case,but the actual total loss is the money we lose for selling players on cheap. in reality the actual loss is the ammount we accept for the player we buy and the ammount we are losing from not selling our player to his market value!
We actually made a lot of money on the Criscito deal, considering how hard he flopped for us. With Almiron it was almost a give away, but still getting back a few million for him is as good as you can get.
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
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it is exactly this way, we have explained it before, the 4 mil they claim, comes from 15.5 - the fees we got for the 3 players, but when the deal was happening, i was here,
where you?
Do you remember what was discussed back then? the market value and our estimation on those players was different, Bari was asking earth and water from us for this player and gave away the better Ranocchia cheaper than the 15.5 they demanded from us.
Anyways, it was more of a sock back then, because we had little experience of how Marotta handles things, who would have thought that he is so incompetent?
We see things differently now because it is now the rule that every time we pay, we overpay, every time we sell, we sell out.
The lucky amongst us who were around when this club was runned by professionals, are used by different standards.
Juventus was never the club that splashed the most money, but we used to be competitive in the international transfer scene by our smart planning and executioning on the transfer market.
we used to buy average players too, but turn them into champions and then sell them as such!
Now we buy average players in the price of champions, make them champions and then sell them in the price of average players.
 

Juliano13

Senior Member
May 6, 2012
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it is exactly this way, we have explained it before, the 4 mil they claim, comes from 15.5 - the fees we got for the 3 players, but when the deal was happening, i was here,
where you?
Do you remember what was discussed back then? the market value and our estimation on those players was different, Bari was asking earth and water from us for this player and gave away the better Ranocchia cheaper than the 15.5 they demanded from us.
Anyways, it was more of a sock back then, because we had little experience of how Marotta handles things, who would have thought that he is so incompetent?
We see things differently now because it is now the rule that every time we pay, we overpay, every time we sell, we sell out.
The lucky amongst us who were around when this club was runned by professionals, are used by different standards.
Juventus was never the club that splashed the most money, but we used to be competitive in the international transfer scene by our smart planning and executioning on the transfer market.
we used to buy average players too, but turn them into champions and then sell them as such!
Now we buy average players in the price of champions, make them champions and then sell them in the price of average players.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Well 26 mil. one year before the end of the contract isn't a peanut money.But he deserved that price.The guy is a beast.Very intelligent ,with good technique and passing skills.
Its not peanut money, but in todays world, the rationality is gone. Big teams with sacks of cash dont are about balancing. So you need to pay such prices or lose him to united


And we couldnt just let sandro ruin his career there
 

Rollie

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Apr 15, 2008
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it is exactly this way, we have explained it before, the 4 mil they claim, comes from 15.5 - the fees we got for the 3 players, but when the deal was happening, i was here,
where you?
Do you remember what was discussed back then? the market value and our estimation on those players was different, Bari was asking earth and water from us for this player and gave away the better Ranocchia cheaper than the 15.5 they demanded from us.
Anyways, it was more of a sock back then, because we had little experience of how Marotta handles things, who would have thought that he is so incompetent?
We see things differently now because it is now the rule that every time we pay, we overpay, every time we sell, we sell out.
The lucky amongst us who were around when this club was runned by professionals, are used by different standards.
Juventus was never the club that splashed the most money, but we used to be competitive in the international transfer scene by our smart planning and executioning on the transfer market.
we used to buy average players too, but turn them into champions and then sell them as such!
Now we buy average players in the price of champions, make them champions and then sell them in the price of average players.
How's that whole "the better Ranocchia" thing worked out? Leo has turned into a core part of this team, the guys we gave away are scrubs.

As for how Marotta has handled things... early on was tough to stomach, but how about the 4 consecutive Scudetti, or the trip to the CL final last season?

Also, we set the world transfer record twice in the 90's? Baggio (90), Vialli (92). This whole narrative about how Juventus only make champions, and then sell them, never buy them... it's not exactly historically accurate. History is your strong suit, is it not?

:shifty:

The other weird narrative I keep seeing, about us selling all of our best players... other than a Ferrari crashing want away Vidal, and the fall out post Calciopoli -- which is obviously an extraordinary situation -- who are all these 'Champions' we've been selling in recent years?
 

DUKAC

Senior Member
Feb 29, 2012
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Its not peanut money, but in todays world, the rationality is gone. Big teams with sacks of cash dont are about balancing. So you need to pay such prices or lose him to united


And we couldnt just let sandro ruin his career there
As I said he is worth the money payed for him at every sense.Yes the market is ridicolus especially after petrol money owners own certain clubs but he wasn't a bargain moneywise.Most important again is that he is worth every penny payed.
 

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