Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
What?


You can't be serious. There have only been a handful of teams in Europe that have done this. Allegri winning a Treble is the possibly the highest achievement that a club coach can have.

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There are good and bad signings with all directors Andy. No director is infallible. If there was one, then he could name his salary and have a blank check given to him by any club that wishes to have him. It's always a combined total effort. The only exception is England, but take a look at how that has worked out for them lately. And it isn't about Conte getting his due. Hell, COnte got most, if not all of the credit for the past 3 years. It's about time that Marotta and Paratici get the credit they deserve for building a fantastic club from the ground up. And that is what this team is. It is a fantastic club, from the sporting to the business side of things, and the prospects are only looking brighter.

This season proves that beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was never about just one man, but a collective effort.

Take a look at the team out there that beat Inter yesterday for example. A desperate, backs against the wall Inter that had just won at Lazio, which is no small feat.

1 player in the starting XI was with the club before Marotta and Paratici got here. That lineup that you see there is a testament to the 5 year project that this team has undergone.


I can't remember the last time a Juve B squad won an away match against anyone, much less a club like Inter, whom I had stated before are fighting for their European lives.

I just prefer to sit back, look at everything that has taken place in the last 5 years, and marvel at how Juve have managed to turn everything around in the past 4 seasons. It is really amazing and unprecedented when you think about it. When you think about the bold moves that were made in that first season alone, with the emotional ties to certain players that had to be cut, one by one seeing the old guard go away, and seeing a total roster upheaval in that first season alone.


There was a lot of work to be done, and Marotta knew it. I'm sure he also knew what he was getting into, making unpopular choices in the beginning. I would like to think that he probably didn't sleep very well for a couple of nights prior to and after letting Trez go.

And you know what else he is doing, Andy? Something that you and I, ever since Serie B, have been crying out for.

Pogba
Coman
Rugani
Dybala
Morata

possible Berardi and who knows what else.


He has managed to build a club that is full of champions, and yet he and Paratici are building a pipeline for the future. I mean, just let those 5, and possibly 6 names roll around in your mind for a little while and realize that Pogba is the OLDEST at 22, and think of where this club can go.

I mean there is no doubt that Juve are the envy of Italy, that much is obvious, but this is a model that I'm sure a lot of clubs, especially in England would not mind following. If I were an owner of one of those clubs, if I could reach the CL Final and NOT have to spend hundreds of millions every year, I will take it. A lot of these clubs buy stars and hope that they will fit in. Juve buy players that they know will fit in, and let them develop into prime players. If this club can somehow win the Treble, one could make the case that this would be one of the biggest turnarounds in European football history. Even if they only win the Double this year, this is still an amazing story. One that quite honestly, a lot of us were hoping for, but were realistically thinking 2 more years down the road
atually that is false. morata is the oldest of the bunch. morata and pogba are 22 but morata is 5 monthsn older.

as for the rest. didnt read lol
 

KB824

Senior Member
Sep 16, 2003
31,789
Damn it. I missed this, obviously, otherwise I would have responded already.

One could literally write a thesis on the state of affairs in Serie A and how Juve has more or less cemented a long run of titles to come. The idea alone, that we can get this team to a CL final WITHOUT selling is baffling and you know there are clubs probably diving head on into a case study on how we did it looking to emulate the same tactics.

It starts with a plan, a smart plan that doesn't involve some unlimited wealth a half a world away. Then the plan is put into capable hands of men that comprise the board that think logically on how to grow a brand and keep the brand growing without it fizzling out. Can we do a repeat next year? Who knows. Even if we make 60m next year versus our 100m this year it is still a good year economically. Furthermore, the Juve brand is suddenly back on the world stage again and how many fans did our fan base increase by this year? If Roma/Lazio crash out early again then better for us financially. The irony is, they suffer and as a result we benefit massively indirectly.

Sergio, we are literally experiencing a perfect storm. Think about it, we have hit near light speed while EVERYONE else is still trying to get their ship fueled. Our own stadium (that you forgot to mention) alone will basically keep us on top domestically for some time. We are well within FFP and those teams that might be our most direct threats are already breaching those rules. I mean, Roma getting knocked out was the best thing for us financially because had that NOT happened we probably wouldn't have seen a Dybala deal go through with such ease. Obviously yes, we absolutely owe Conte a MASSIVE debt of gratitude for the mentality of lions he created that walk out on that pitch looking do die for the player next to him. 3 titles and our name on everyone's fear list again is something Conte will always have on his list of achievements that Allegri won't. Allegri now takes that mentality and applies it to a more tactical mindset where not only do we outwork the other team we outsmart them tactically. A deadly combination but again that goes back to the smart plan and seeing out that plan 5 years ago.

We are close to breaking 1 billion dollars in worth. 1 friggin' billion dollars man and our stadium only holds 41k. Utilizing this amazing season to grow our brand & merchandising is a must and that's how we get up to the ManU's and Barca's in value. No one thought this season would happen and I'd be happy with another Semi-final CL run next year but damn it, this season has certainly raised to bar on expectations not only for us fans but now other clubs expecting to have to try and get passed us again. I want more Gary Neville's reactions from players when they find out they drew Juventus.

You know Barcelona wanted Real, I can almost guarantee it. They know them well and know their players. Juventus they know little about. All they know is we are an extremely stubborn team to break down with a world class midfield and in form Carlitos.

I don't know about anyone else but I'm in heaven this year.
You know, I'm no expert on this stuff. All I can do is just take a look at how the roster is constructed and realize that more than anything else, with the amount of young players either in the squad or will be there next year, that this guy is rebuilding on the fly while still having an extremely competitive squad. Aside from those players, they still have Vidal and Marchisio who are still in their prime, Asamoah who will be coming back next year who is still just 26, Sturaro, who by the way I forgot to even mention, just turned 22 as well. Add to that Bonucci who is now entering that age where Italian defenders really establish themselves, and this club is in good shape.

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atually that is false. morata is the oldest of the bunch. morata and pogba are 22 but morata is 5 monthsn older.

as for the rest. didnt read lol
You read it. You know you did. It's OK for you not to acknowledge that you did. I for one, will not be party to helping you fill your pitcher of Tuz Tears
 

CrimsonianKing

Count Mbangula
Jan 16, 2013
27,326
What?


You can't be serious. There have only been a handful of teams in Europe that have done this. Allegri winning a Treble is the possibly the highest achievement that a club coach can have.

- - - Updated - - -



There are good and bad signings with all directors Andy. No director is infallible. If there was one, then he could name his salary and have a blank check given to him by any club that wishes to have him. It's always a combined total effort. The only exception is England, but take a look at how that has worked out for them lately. And it isn't about Conte getting his due. Hell, COnte got most, if not all of the credit for the past 3 years. It's about time that Marotta and Paratici get the credit they deserve for building a fantastic club from the ground up. And that is what this team is. It is a fantastic club, from the sporting to the business side of things, and the prospects are only looking brighter.

This season proves that beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was never about just one man, but a collective effort.

Take a look at the team out there that beat Inter yesterday for example. A desperate, backs against the wall Inter that had just won at Lazio, which is no small feat.

1 player in the starting XI was with the club before Marotta and Paratici got here. That lineup that you see there is a testament to the 5 year project that this team has undergone.


I can't remember the last time a Juve B squad won an away match against anyone, much less a club like Inter, whom I had stated before are fighting for their European lives.

I just prefer to sit back, look at everything that has taken place in the last 5 years, and marvel at how Juve have managed to turn everything around in the past 4 seasons. It is really amazing and unprecedented when you think about it. When you think about the bold moves that were made in that first season alone, with the emotional ties to certain players that had to be cut, one by one seeing the old guard go away, and seeing a total roster upheaval in that first season alone.


There was a lot of work to be done, and Marotta knew it. I'm sure he also knew what he was getting into, making unpopular choices in the beginning. I would like to think that he probably didn't sleep very well for a couple of nights prior to and after letting Trez go.

And you know what else he is doing, Andy? Something that you and I, ever since Serie B, have been crying out for.

Pogba
Coman
Rugani
Dybala
Morata

possible Berardi and who knows what else.


He has managed to build a club that is full of champions, and yet he and Paratici are building a pipeline for the future. I mean, just let those 5, and possibly 6 names roll around in your mind for a little while and realize that Pogba is the OLDEST at 22, and think of where this club can go.

I mean there is no doubt that Juve are the envy of Italy, that much is obvious, but this is a model that I'm sure a lot of clubs, especially in England would not mind following. If I were an owner of one of those clubs, if I could reach the CL Final and NOT have to spend hundreds of millions every year, I will take it. A lot of these clubs buy stars and hope that they will fit in. Juve buy players that they know will fit in, and let them develop into prime players. If this club can somehow win the Treble, one could make the case that this would be one of the biggest turnarounds in European football history. Even if they only win the Double this year, this is still an amazing story. One that quite honestly, a lot of us were hoping for, but were realistically thinking 2 more years down the road
Damn it. I missed this, obviously, otherwise I would have responded already.

One could literally write a thesis on the state of affairs in Serie A and how Juve has more or less cemented a long run of titles to come. The idea alone, that we can get this team to a CL final WITHOUT selling is baffling and you know there are clubs probably diving head on into a case study on how we did it looking to emulate the same tactics.

It starts with a plan, a smart plan that doesn't involve some unlimited wealth a half a world away. Then the plan is put into capable hands of men that comprise the board that think logically on how to grow a brand and keep the brand growing without it fizzling out. Can we do a repeat next year? Who knows. Even if we make 60m next year versus our 100m this year it is still a good year economically. Furthermore, the Juve brand is suddenly back on the world stage again and how many fans did our fan base increase by this year? If Roma/Lazio crash out early again then better for us financially. The irony is, they suffer and as a result we benefit massively indirectly.

Sergio, we are literally experiencing a perfect storm. Think about it, we have hit near light speed while EVERYONE else is still trying to get their ship fueled. Our own stadium (that you forgot to mention) alone will basically keep us on top domestically for some time. We are well within FFP and those teams that might be our most direct threats are already breaching those rules. I mean, Roma getting knocked out was the best thing for us financially because had that NOT happened we probably wouldn't have seen a Dybala deal go through with such ease. Obviously yes, we absolutely owe Conte a MASSIVE debt of gratitude for the mentality of lions he created that walk out on that pitch looking do die for the player next to him. 3 titles and our name on everyone's fear list again is something Conte will always have on his list of achievements that Allegri won't. Allegri now takes that mentality and applies it to a more tactical mindset where not only do we outwork the other team we outsmart them tactically. A deadly combination but again that goes back to the smart plan and seeing out that plan 5 years ago.

We are close to breaking 1 billion dollars in worth. 1 friggin' billion dollars man and our stadium only holds 41k. Utilizing this amazing season to grow our brand & merchandising is a must and that's how we get up to the ManU's and Barca's in value. No one thought this season would happen and I'd be happy with another Semi-final CL run next year but damn it, this season has certainly raised to bar on expectations not only for us fans but now other clubs expecting to have to try and get passed us again. I want more Gary Neville's reactions from players when they find out they drew Juventus.

You know Barcelona wanted Real, I can almost guarantee it. They know them well and know their players. Juventus they know little about. All they know is we are an extremely stubborn team to break down with a world class midfield and in form Carlitos.

I don't know about anyone else but I'm in heaven this year.
Just wanted to share those awesome posts i didn't read.
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,390
thank god cronios is banned.

can u imagine how he would have typed a novel as a response back to those two blog writer wannabes?
That's actually worse, all the time during his ban he is preparing a reply on a local saved Word file that he will copy pasta the second his ban is over. Do you know what will happen then?
 

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