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Jun 17, 2011
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That's why Marotta is mad at Lotito (from what i have understood)

There was an agreement between all clubs in the league on what to change in order to help italian football. With or without Tavecchio. Lotito and Agnelli as the "leaders" of two opposite parties worked together on a piece of paper to find a consensus. They did find an agreement.

That paper included the consideration of B teams - something Juventus and Roma want strongly - now that Tavecchio became president (who is extremely close to Lotito) and the work on what has been agreed started there suddenly is no talk about B-Teams anymore. Now Tavecchio and Lotito want to allow timesharing instead (a owner is allowed to own a second club and that club can play in any league, those clubs should then play youngstars from the bigger club). The thing is the only person who owns a second club in Italy is Lotito who also owns Salerno, he clearly uses his power for his own good instead of what has been agreed and would beneficial to everyone not just Lotito.

It has not much to do with the NT. The Lega A is a different ball game. But also dominated by Lotito who is sponsored by people like Galliani and Preziosi, meaning they basically decide the rules of the Serie A and have great influence on the future of this league. The problem here is they have no clue what they are doing - they can't even manage their own clubs properly - and they care more about politics (power) than the actual sport itself. Also well run clubs like Roma, Fiorentina and Juventus have basically no power, which is a shame.

And since Juventus is dependent on the Serie A to a certain degree this is not good at all for us. We need a strong Serie A, one that produces more and better talents, one that is more attractive for sponsors, one that generates more money from TV rights, one with attractive stadiums to play in. It's delusional to think that what happens in Serie A in good or bad won't have any influence on Juve, every club is heavily influenced by his league. Bayern dominated the Bundesliga for years but didn't have a realistic chance in Europe because of a weak Bundesliga. Only the rise of the Bundesliga made the rise of Bayern possible. We are in the present in a similiar situation Bayern was between 2003 and 2009.
What's wrong with that?
 

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Tomate

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Jul 19, 2014
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What's wrong with that?
It's wrong because it's unrealistic and complicated. More than simply integrating B-Teams.

Not every owner is willing to buy a second club - i would for example say it's very unlikely that Exor would buy a second club just for the sake of promoting youth talents - since it requires extra cash and time not everyone has or wants to invest. I'm fully convinced things will mostly stay as they are now with that concept.

Another problem is that if you buy a small club you have to keep in mind that those clubs still have fans, who potentially dislike Juve, Milan or whoever's owner is also their owner and those clubs have their own identity they want to keep. Lotito isn't well liked by the fans of Salerno.

A second club wouldn't be an integral part of a club. It's another club. With different fans, a different identity, managed by other people. A Juventus B-team would be owned by Juventus, would exist for the sake of Juventus, would represent the Juventus colours, would be controlled by the same people who manage the A team, would be supported as Juventus. It's a much easier and a much better concept. Lotito's idea is for himself, not for the good of the majority. And certainly not for the good of Juventus.
 

La_Fidanzata

Senior Member
Feb 18, 2008
653
That's why Marotta is mad at Lotito (from what i have understood)

There was an agreement between all clubs in the league on what to change in order to help italian football. With or without Tavecchio. Lotito and Agnelli as the "leaders" of two opposite parties worked together on a piece of paper to find a consensus. They did find an agreement.

That paper included the consideration of B teams - something Juventus and Roma want strongly - now that Tavecchio became president (who is extremely close to Lotito) and the work on what has been agreed started there suddenly is no talk about B-Teams anymore. Now Tavecchio and Lotito want to allow timesharing instead (a owner is allowed to own a second club and that club can play in any league, those clubs should then play youngstars from the bigger club). The thing is the only person who owns a second club in Italy is Lotito who also owns Salerno, he clearly uses his power for his own good instead of what has been agreed and would beneficial to everyone not just Lotito.

It has not much to do with the NT. The Lega A is a different ball game. But also dominated by Lotito who is sponsored by people like Galliani and Preziosi, meaning they basically decide the rules of the Serie A and have great influence on the future of this league. The problem here is they have no clue what they are doing - they can't even manage their own clubs properly - and they care more about politics (power) than the actual sport itself. Also well run clubs like Roma, Fiorentina and Juventus have basically no power, which is a shame.

And since Juventus is dependent on the Serie A to a certain degree this is not good at all for us. We need a strong Serie A, one that produces more and better talents, one that is more attractive for sponsors, one that generates more money from TV rights, one with attractive stadiums to play in. It's delusional to think that what happens in Serie A in good or bad won't have any influence on Juve, every club is heavily influenced by his league. Bayern dominated the Bundesliga for years but didn't have a realistic chance in Europe because of a weak Bundesliga. Only the rise of the Bundesliga made the rise of Bayern possible. We are in the present in a similiar situation Bayern was between 2003 and 2009.
I dont post so much, but I read a lot. Your posts are among the best I´ve read.
 

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