Hængebøffer

Senior Member
Jun 4, 2009
25,185
Selling dead weight and high wages while replacing them with system changing players like Coman or Pereyra and potentially long term solutions like Morata? Doesn't seem like a transitional mercato at all. Seems to me a very standard procedure in making sure the team maintains a certain age average and reasonable wages.

What the hell...we still have over a month left.
Shush, and come play the next mafia game.
 

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Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
An 8/10 for me.
-We finally got a LB and were in great need of it, this was the most important element to allow us to change formation.
-We got a decent sub CF, one that could even turn into a new Llorente in the future and cover the tactical need in his absence in a way none of our SSs could.
-We finally managed to get rid some of the deadwood, like Peluso and Vucinic and soon Quaq, still not at decent price, but that will help our wage issues
and thats a first as long as sales are concerned, that used to be our greatest weakness in mercato.
-We got another Pogba in Coman.
-Maybe failing to get iturbe will be a bless in disquise, as 27mil was way too much for a player of his class,
Roma got him at decent price, but they have apparently more influence in the Italian market.
-We have avoided wasting cash at unknown Italians like Peluso and Padoin, that would never deliver in a team of our level.
-The co own nightmare is over, we will stop bleeding cash and have better control of our youth material.
-We have yet to waste 15mil on uneeded sub CMs and other opportunity targets, hopefully we have started to learn from our mistakes,
we have better control of our budget and we used it where we needed. A LB and a sub CF were our priorities to change the formation.

The bad points is the poor money we made on sales, while we still overpay for players like Pereyra and the continous inability to finalise transfer of prestige players...
These are known weaknesses of our transfer team, we know them, but our board insists on keeping them, because this is the Juventus they want, they dont want us to compete in Europe, for their own reasons, these were not our objectives,
we could never get a Sanchez, this is not us, the board would not sanction it and our transfer manager could not finalise it,
unless he had double the money other teams would need for the transfer.
Considering what we needed, what we could get and we got, i am very pleased!!!

In previous years our transfer performance was far worse, we were spending the cash on opportinity targets on players we were covered and were failing to get the players we needed for the positions we had issues.
We were favoring players not because of their quality or future prospect, but because of their nationality.
We were unable to sell any player, even at significant loses, things have improved, they are far from perfect, but they really did improved!!
 

Hængebøffer

Senior Member
Jun 4, 2009
25,185
An 8/10 for me.
-We finally got a LB and were in great need of it, this was the most important element to allow us to change formation.
-We got a decent sub CF, one that could even turn into a new Llorente in the future.
-We finally managed to get rid of some deadwood, like Peluso and Vucinic and soon Quaq, still not at decent price, but that will help our wage issues
and thats a first as long as sales are concerned, that used to be our greatest weakness in mercato.
-We got another Pogba in Coman.
-Maybe failing to get iturbe will be a bless in disquise, as 27mil was way too much for a player of his class,
Roma got him at decent price, but they have apparently more influence in the Italian market.
-We have avoided wasting cash at unknown Italians like Peluso and Padoin, that would never deliver in a team of our level.
-The co own nightmare is over, we will stop bleeding cash and have better control of our youth material.
-We have yet to waste 15mil on uneeded sub CMs and other opportunity targets, hopefully we have started to learn from our mistakes,
we have better control of our budget and we used it where we needed. A LB and a sub CF were our priorities to change the formation.

The bad points is the poor money we made on sales, while we still overpay for players like Pereyra and the continous inability to finalise transfer of prestige players...
These are known weaknesses of our transfer team, we know them, but our board insists on keeping them, because this is the Juventus they want, they dont want us to compete in Europe, for the own reasons, these are not our objectives, we could never get a Sanchez, this is not us, the board would not sanction it and our transfer manager could not finalise, unless he had double the money other teams would need for the transfer.
Considering what we needed, what we could get and we got, i am very pleased!!!

In previous years our transfer performance was far worse, we were spending the cash on opportinity targets on players we were covered and were failing to get the players we needed for the positions we had issues. We were favoring players not because of their quality of prospect, but because of their nationality.
We were unable to sell any player, even at significant loses, things have improved, they are far from perfect, but they really did improved!!
:rofl:
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,987
An 8/10 for me.
-We finally got a LB and were in great need of it, this was the most important element to allow us to change formation.
-We got a decent sub CF, one that could even turn into a new Llorente in the future.
-We finally managed to get rid of some deadwood, like Peluso and Vucinic and soon Quaq, still not at decent price, but that will help our wage issues
and thats a first as long as sales are concerned, that used to be our greatest weakness in mercato.
-We got another Pogba in Coman.
-Maybe failing to get iturbe will be a bless in disquise, as 27mil was way too much for a player of his class,
Roma got him at decent price, but they have apparently more influence in the Italian market.
-We have avoided wasting cash at unknown Italians like Peluso and Padoin, that would never deliver in a team of our level.
-The co own nightmare is over, we will stop bleeding cash and have better control of our youth material.
-We have yet to waste 15mil on uneeded sub CMs and other opportunity targets, hopefully we have started to learn from our mistakes,
we have better control of our budget and we used it where we needed. A LB and a sub CF were our priorities to change the formation.

The bad points is the poor money we made on sales, while we still overpay for players like Pereyra and the continous inability to finalise transfer of prestige players...
These are known weaknesses of our transfer team, we know them, but our board insists on keeping them, because this is the Juventus they want, they dont want us to compete in Europe, for the own reasons, these are not our objectives, we could never get a Sanchez, this is not us, the board would not sanction it and our transfer manager could not finalise, unless he had double the money other teams would need for the transfer.
Considering what we needed, what we could get and we got, i am very pleased!!!

In previous years our transfer performance was far worse, we were spending the cash on opportinity targets on players we were covered and were failing to get the players we needed for the positions we had issues. We were favoring players not because of their quality of prospect, but because of their nationality.
We were unable to sell any player, even at significant loses, things have improved, they are far from perfect, but they really did improved!!
:tup:
 

DUKAC

Senior Member
Feb 29, 2012
12,290
Like you said, a transitional mercato it seems.

I think the board is convinced that our team from last season was good enought to do more,unlike Conte. So instead of buying a world beater, they are trying to close some gaps and try one more time. Also, since Allegri said he is looking for a defender... it gives me the idea that the team is trying to prepare for an era post Barzagli an Chiellini. Trying to find relacements now that theres time. I say this becaue our best defenders are the oldest and will surely past their best sooner than our players in other lines.

I agree with the board that this group has at least one more season to try and save face before we will be forced to sign some quality the next one, as llorente, tevez and specially Pirlo, will start to fade.
I agree for Barza but Chiello is far from old.I just can't understand a purpose for a Ogbonna purchase for 15 mil(I think more) because it was Immobile included.
And Allegri ask for Zapata,which is average or at least not better than Ogbonna and a striker.Very bad feelings about this season.Primary about Serie A.Authority lacks to a poodle known as Allegri.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,987
The Ogbonna deal i agree was a kind of fail Conte never trusted him and was barely used. For the millions we paid, he was a rioyal fail and was used as a niche player. Very very bad business. At least for now.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
The issue is that juve's defence is getting old

Ogbonna looked like the best prospect under 25.

Sadly, there is not a single good defender in italy under 25. Even after considering all modern defenders are worse then dogcrap
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
The issue is that juve's defence is getting old

Ogbonna looked like the best prospect under 25.

Sadly, there is not a single good defender in italy under 25. Even after considering all modern defenders are worse then dogcrap
I agree that modern defenders have dropped in quality, although part of this is rule changes to favour attackers, or at least how the refs call fouls for much less than in the past... but you exaggerate a little here. Not all modern defenders are worse than dogcart. Hyperbole is not your friend.
 

ZoSo

Senior Member
Jul 11, 2011
41,656
I am still perplexed as to why we passed up on him in what, 2-3 seasons? :sergio:

I bet it was because he's not Italian :sergio: Ogbonna was more expensive than him :sergio:
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,145
Evra a starter? Yeah, good luck in benching Asamoah.

BTW our mercato is not over, the likes of Shaqiri can still arrive.

And you can't leave gaps or holes in the team just because you have to do your shiny 40M signing. Someone like Morata was needed, and we need also another CF, if you want to know. We needed Evra. Wee needed Pereyra. And we do need also another back-up in the midfield. And if we didn't buy them, people like you would complain about Marrone or Padoin being "inadequate players" for a team like us, and "unreliable subs". Those would be your words, and you would crucify the board. Because THAT is the best part: those who's criticized Marotta for having a team with Peluso, Vucinic, Quagliarella, Isla as subs (like if our priority was the bench in last years), now that we managed to sell them, we complain to him for buying great young prospect as subs. You'd want a team made of very few players, all already world class and experienced. :lol: That's the truth.

But no, we have to buy Sanchez, so $#@! it, let's have a team of 15 players... THAT is the way to success.
:lol: What a bunch of garbage.
 

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