Giuseppe Marotta (81 Viewers)

[KB824]

No you are wrong.
Salas was a must buy because it came in package with Nedved so we must buy him in order to get Pavel.I agree with you that Salas was old and not in best shape.Miccoli was good.I don't understand why you dismiss this transfer.He played well for us,was cheap and then we sold to Benfica after loaning him previously to some other teams.Legro was bad but ultra cheap,so it was not that bad move.And what about selling Zidane back in 2001 -biggest transfer and most wisely used money?What about Cannavaro when we give Inter our third goalkeeper and get Cannavaro.There are much,much examples.The guy was a transfer magician.

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No,not getting Ronaldo from Portugal and he already passed our medical!!!!!!!

But he was never a Juve player though. I was speaking specifically about players he had acquired or in this case, sold.

Regardless, the man was great at what he did, and anyone who denies that is fooling themselves. Just as those who don't believe the man made any mistakes in the market as well. If there was a director out there who got it right every time, he could basically name his price in regards to salary and authority.

 

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[Bjerknes]

I wanted to join the marotta is "the great man" club but I don´t like cults, so i just pray every night that he never leaves us.

You seriously spend time each night praying for THAT? Oh my.

 

[Raz]

Best foreign striker ? Lol, how about Sivori


Strikers dont just finish chances, they also create them and build up. Hence why Henry was the starter in the french national team and trezeguet was a reserve.

Henry could do everything, he was just slightly less in finishing.

How about Sivori we have no actual idea how good was he? What about 1900, we had some decent strikers too then, maybe we should include them in the discussion too?

And yes Trez is best foreigner striker in Juve history, he has the most goals.

 

[DUKAC]

Best foreign striker ? Lol, how about Sivori


Strikers dont just finish chances, they also create them and build up. Hence why Henry was the starter in the french national team and trezeguet was a reserve.

Henry could do everything, he was just slightly less in finishing.

Yes like always you are right.

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Isn't Trez the highest scoring non Italian Juve player?

No,according to Zach he isn't.So it must be true.

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He is.

No you are wrong and don't you dare to argue that issue with mighty football scientist Zach.

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But he was never a Juve player though. I was speaking specifically about players he had acquired or in this case, sold.

Regardless, the man was great at what he did, and anyone who denies that is fooling themselves. Just as those who don't believe the man made any mistakes in the market as well. If there was a director out there who got it right every time, he could basically name his price in regards to salary and authority.

Is there a man in the world who does not make a mistake?All I am saying is that he was genius and that, time will past in order someone to accomplish what he does.

 

[swag]

Are we really still wasting our breath here of more and more pages of debate on whether Marotta sucks or not?

 

[Suns]

Marotta confirms we're looking for another striker.

Man, I'll be honest. If it stops here this mercato has been a disappointment, and kinda useless actually for our European goal. Our starting eleven has not gotten better at all. Just wasting time and money on reserves.

Pereyra - bench
Morata - bench
Romelo - bench
Coman - bench/youth project
New striker - bench

Only one is Evra, let's hope he has something left in that tank.

 

[JuveJay]

If we are mentioning Evra then we can also include Pereyra and Coman in that, as their best positions are also in roles that don't suit our 3-5-2.

Also don't forget that with these better bench players it enables us (in theory) to rest players more before important CL matches. Conte was quite loathe to rotate much, he had a lot of bench players but clearly not much faith in them (aside from Marchisio and sometimes Caceres) as replacement first team players.

We don't know yet how Allegri will use our squad.

 

[Bjerknes]

Also don't forget that with these better bench players it enables us (in theory) to rest players more before important CL matches..

We have been building the bench for years now, ever since Marotta took charge. If we are still building a bench we have a big problem.

 

[Zacheryah]

We needed a more offensive CM option on the bench, that can be trusted on

Cause like Jay said, conte didnt believe in many of them and barely rotated


we got a very good starting 11, what we needed was more quality and options on that benchµ


Shakira wouldnt hurt tho

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We have been building the bench for years now, ever since Marotta took charge. If we are still building a bench we have a big problem.

If only it was as easy as in the boring MLS, where players get extorted

 

[JuveJay]

We have been building the bench for years now, ever since Marotta took charge. If we are still building a bench we have a big problem.

Do you think the bench has not been good enough, or Conte just didn't use it enough? Bearing in mind we had 102 points in the league and a CL flop.

 

[Bjerknes]

If only it was as easy as in the boring MLS

Great contribution, but you missed the point.

 

[Vlad]

We needed a more offensive CM option on the bench, that can be trusted on

Cause like Jay said, conte didnt believe in many of them and barely rotated


we got a very good starting 11, what we needed was more quality and options on that benchµ


Shakira wouldnt hurt tho

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If only it was as easy as in the boring MLS, where players get extorted

Oh, I agree with you on that

 

[Bjerknes]

Do you think the bench has not been good enough, or Conte just didn't use it enough? Bearing in mind we had 102 points in the league and a CL flop.

The bench hasn't been all that great, no. But at the same time, we have spent a decent amount of money for supposed bench players over the course of the last four years. The thinking (at least here) was that we purchased a lot of the Matri's and Quag's to fill bench roles for us for the long run, but instead many of these players did not even work out as bench players, unfortunately. So now we are back to square one with filling the bench. The only bright side (at least for me) is that they are going after younger talents which is what I wanted to see all along right after Calciopoli.

 

[AlexOB]

Marotta confirms we're looking for another striker.

Man, I'll be honest. If it stops here this mercato has been a disappointment, and kinda useless actually for our European goal. Our starting eleven has not gotten better at all. Just wasting time and money on reserves.

Pereyra - bench
Morata - bench
Romelo - bench
Coman - bench/youth project
New striker - bench

Only one is Evra, let's hope he has something left in that tank.

We also have to say that is not easy to improve our starting XI, and maybe not even this much needed. We've been working fine on talents and back-ups. But if we look at our goalkeeper, defence and midfield we're among the best in the world... It's not easy to improve that. We could improve on forwards an wingers, but you need big money nowadays to do that and we don't have it. We can still board someone like Xherdan, that would be a great starter, though.

 

[KB824]

The bench hasn't been all that great, no. But at the same time, we have spent a decent amount of money for supposed bench players over the course of the last four years. The thinking (at least here) was that we purchased a lot of the Matri's and Quag's to fill bench roles for us for the long run, but instead many of these players did not even work out as bench players, unfortunately. So now we are back to square one with filling the bench. The only bright side (at least for me) is that they are going after younger talents which is what I wanted to see all along right after Calciopoli.

This, we can certainly agree on.


I still want to see a starter be brought on board, though.

 

[Twenty---3]

If we are mentioning Evra then we can also include Pereyra and Coman in that, as their best positions are also in roles that don't suit our 3-5-2.

Also don't forget that with these better bench players it enables us (in theory) to rest players more before important CL matches. Conte was quite loathe to rotate much, he had a lot of bench players but clearly not much faith in them (aside from Marchisio and sometimes Caceres) as replacement first team players.

We don't know yet how Allegri will use our squad.

Spot on.

 

[Zacheryah]

Great contribution, but you missed the point.

I dont. THe point in the civilised world is that you need to upgrade that bench.

We came a long way, improved the starting team a great deal. Currently we dont have the funds to really add starters, so we try to replace the more expensive players we had to get as stopgab solutions and replace with higher quality bench material. Preferably young with good growth in them.

In MLS teams dont pay players but the MLS does,wages are fixed at a pretty low sum, transfers happen all the time, only 2 players are allowed a higher wage, contracts are horrible, and players are extorted in general

 

[KB824]

I dont. THe point in the civilised world is that you need to upgrade that bench.

We came a long way, improved the starting team a great deal. Currently we dont have the funds to really add starters, so we try to replace the more expensive players we had to get as stopgab solutions and replace with higher quality bench material. Preferably young with good growth in them.

In MLS teams dont pay players but the MLS does,wages are fixed at a pretty low sum, transfers happen all the time, only 2 players are allowed a higher wage, contracts are horrible, and players are extorted in general

The US tried an unstructured salary plan in the 70's. It's called the NASL. There were the New York Cosmos, and everyone else. League folded within 10 years. They have to keep this structure in place until the league gets more revenue and exposure. It's the 5th rated sport in the US.


Similar to if Belgium has a baseball league and a basketball league. You can't expect MLB and NBA Salaries for sports that are way down the chart in regards to interest and revenue.

 

[DUKAC]

Marrota claims that Vidal will stay,precisely that "he will be suprised " if Arturo asked for a transfer.

 

[Zacheryah]

The US tried an unstructured salary plan in the 70's. It's called the NASL. There were the New York Cosmos, and everyone else. League folded within 10 years. They have to keep this structure in place until the league gets more revenue and exposure. It's the 5th rated sport in the US.


Similar to if Belgium has a baseball league and a basketball league. You can't expect MLB and NBA Salaries for sports that are way down the chart in regards to interest and revenue.

The issue, and irony, is that they have a very communistic way of threating their sports. Very centralised, very equal wages. And that is an issue for the quality of the sport

Sure, MLG is very naive, and has everyone attacking with open helmet. But for the players its horrible. Got a problem ? Well MLG has your contract and you are transferred on the club's desire.


I get it. they want to avoid clubs making huge losses. But they could do that in different ways.

Contracts should be by the clubs, let MLG regulate clubs making depts and signing players, but this crap.

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Marrota claims that Vidal will stay,precisely that "he will be suprised " if Arturo asked for a transfer.

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