Italians are the only ones being proven corrupt and stop with the "Everything & everyone is against us" excuse.
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Around 2000 madrid got away with just about everything
More recently, english teams funded by oilmoney, get away with ridiculous punishments for breaking FFP instead of applying the rules. Same time, barcelona gets away with breaking some other rules
"proven corrupt". I nearly fell of my chair. All the crap english and spanish teams were allowed to do over the years...
More recently, english teams funded by oilmoney, get away with ridiculous punishments for breaking FFP instead of applying the rules. Same time, barcelona gets away with breaking some other rules
"proven corrupt". I nearly fell of my chair. All the crap english and spanish teams were allowed to do over the years...
Madrid broke several rules back then. Barcelona is breaking them now. Manchester got away for more then a decade of what barcelona is doing now. FFP stated very clearly what would happen if teams broke it, but they now come up with meaningless punishments instead.
ANd then there is the fraud in neymars deal, and multiple EPL deals amongs themselves, wich never even get investigated
ANd then there is the fraud in neymars deal, and multiple EPL deals amongs themselves, wich never even get investigated
Zach, it's impossible to argue with these EPL and Liga fanboys. They turn a blind eye to all their own corrupt institutions and much prefer to point the finger elsewhere. At least in Italy, there is an attempt to clean these things up.
There was also Operacion Puerto and the massive doping it uncovered, including multiple links to both Madrid and Barca (seasonal preparation plans and the like). And that was all just swept under the rug...
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When Fuentes said he would name all the athletes he treated in other sports, including Tennis (Nadal anyone?) and Football, the Spanish judge refused to allow him to do so in court. Football is too valuable to Spain's crumbling economy to allow such things out.
There was also Operacion Puerto and the massive doping it uncovered, including multiple links to both Madrid and Barca (seasonal preparation plans and the like). And that was all just swept under the rug...
Edit.
When Fuentes said he would name all the athletes he treated in other sports, including Tennis (Nadal anyone?) and Football, the Spanish judge refused to allow him to do so in court. Football is too valuable to Spain's crumbling economy to allow such things out.
Americans like to think they live in the "land of the free", when they're mostly so ignorant they have absolutely no idea just how little freedom they actually have. Talk about a manipulated people.
A friend of mine who grew up behind the Iron Curtain in Budapest likes to laugh at that nonsense. He says that at least everyone in Hungary recognized what was propaganda and that they were being manipulated. In America, and to a lesser extent Canada, people are completely oblivious to it.
A friend of mine who grew up behind the Iron Curtain in Budapest likes to laugh at that nonsense. He says that at least everyone in Hungary recognized what was propaganda and that they were being manipulated. In America, and to a lesser extent Canada, people are completely oblivious to it.
Beg to differ. We have an idiot president but to the extent of our current situation I see no reason to assume I'm living behind an iron curtain. No offense against Hungarians, but my quality of life is certainly a little different. Feel free to talk to me about oppression and concentration camps all you like, I hear it from my grandparents frequently who have been through that.
Andy and I aren't exactly quite fond of this president or the last but I can bet you he will take his chances here.
Andy and I aren't exactly quite fond of this president or the last but I can bet you he will take his chances here.
It certainly is different. It's more an indictment of the lack of awareness of the average American than saying you are oppressed to that extent. I have quite a few friends from south of this border, and have travelled extensively through America. I quite like the country.
However, in general, the average person remains shockingly oblivious to just how manipulated they are by their government and the media. It's more an awareness thing in my eyes, than a direct lack of freedom. I was exaggerating that just a wee bit. :tongue:
However, in general, the average person remains shockingly oblivious to just how manipulated they are by their government and the media. It's more an awareness thing in my eyes, than a direct lack of freedom. I was exaggerating that just a wee bit. :tongue: