Gianluigi Donnarumma - GK - AC Milan (18 Viewers)

[Robee]

We have this thing called Covid now, so 30 - 40 is totally unrealistic.
Something between 5 and 20 is possible.

Covid only matters so much. The market always dictates and if someone else is willing to give that amount... Lots of payments just get spread out.

For instance Chiesa, Morata, Arthur, etc. were still very expensive despite the situation.

I could see a signing bonus and another one in a clause if we extend for example.

 

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[Dostoevsky]

30-40m for what? Donnarumma is a free agent.

He is when you read Tuttosport. But we actually pay for those. Covid will not change much because countries that took plenty of vacinnes are starting to get their life back. No way players/agents will miss opportunity to milk clubs when they tie players on a 4-5 year deal while corona might disappear in a year. We used to pay like 40mln for Pogba but he was also "free".

Donna salary with taxes would be around 20mln and that is also crazy.

 

[LiquidPLP]

20m agent cost and 10m net salary (which are more realistic numbers probably) are way too exaggerated too.

considering our current wage bill and financial climate, i'd probably skip on donnarumma. tek costs ~15m gross per season, and with proper coaching, he's been excellent. donna would cost north of 20m per year, and it's debatable who's the better of the two. i'd take musso from udinese, similar quality, much cheaper, and spend the rest on the midfield, which is really a pressing issue.

At this point I don't think the club is looking for 'just' a younger keeper.

It's a generational change ongoing at Juve and Dolla will be a big part of it - the club probably sees him as a future leader of this squad, possibly with De Ligt and Chiesa. I'd probably throw Locatelli in as well.

Is this justified from financial point of view? Of course not. The club needs more Italians and preferably the best ones that are out there. We can't rely on Buffon and Chiellini anymore.

 

[s4tch]

At this point I don't think the club is looking for 'just' a younger keeper.

It's a generational change ongoing at Juve and Dolla will be a big part of it - the club probably sees him as a future leader of this squad, possibly with De Ligt and Chiesa. I'd probably throw Locatelli in as well.

Is this justified from financial point of view? Of course not. The club needs more Italians and preferably the best ones that are out there. We can't rely on Buffon and Chiellini anymore.

can you rely on any raiola client though

donnarumma allegedly loves milan, he's a homegrown player there, yet every single time his extension is a torture

we need loyal players, not mercenaries, and donnarumma is a mercenary, no two ways about it. he's a quality mercenary, but not the chiesa type game changer full of grinta guy. leader? meh...

for me, there are just too many warning signs

 

[Strickland]

lol you actually believe that figure? Wasn’t even believable pre COVID, never mind now.

Raiola got 42m when Juventus sold Pogba to United. With Donna he might not be looking for 30-40m in cash straightaway, but it won't be cheap either.

 

[LiquidPLP]

can you rely on any raiola client though

donnarumma allegedly loves milan, he's a homegrown player there, yet every single time his extension is a torture

we need loyal players, not mercenaries, and donnarumma is a mercenary, no two ways about it. he's a quality mercenary, but not the chiesa type game changer full of grinta guy. leader? meh...

for me, there are just too many warning signs

He joined them when he was 15, no? Afaik he's from Napoli. Not sure if he's a Milanista or not - all I know there aren't too many Barellas out there these days.

Not trying to defend this move, I don't like it either. Just trying to see things the way the club does. I also think it's retarded to give 10m net to a GK.

On the other hand - I think Donna is already better than Szczęsny and I rate the latter quite highly.

The bottom line - warning signs come from Raiola, nothing new here. I think we'll try to carry out Romagnoli - Berna swap as well, so one more player of his in our club. We probably should fire Tici and have Mino as our SD xD

 

[U Picciriddu]

can you rely on any raiola client though

donnarumma allegedly loves milan, he's a homegrown player there, yet every single time his extension is a torture

we need loyal players, not mercenaries, and donnarumma is a mercenary, no two ways about it. he's a quality mercenary, but not the chiesa type game changer full of grinta guy. leader? meh...

for me, there are just too many warning signs

I think Dollar is a Juventino mate

 

[Robee]

He joined them when he was 15, no? Afaik he's from Napoli. Not sure if he's a Milanista or not - all I know there aren't too many Barellas out there these days.

Not trying to defend this move, I don't like it either. Just trying to see things the way the club does. I also think it's retarded to give 10m net to a GK.

On the other hand - I think Donna is already better than Szczęsny and I rate the latter quite highly.

The bottom line - warning signs come from Raiola, nothing new here. I think we'll try to carry out Romagnoli - Berna swap as well, so one more player of his in our club. We probably should fire Tici and have Mino as our SD xD

Raiola is probably just using us to milk Milan, pal. I think he'll extend in the end.

 

[IlCapitano]

You will probably have to look for a Woj replacement in a few years anyway. Only then it is likely you will have to pay well above 30-40m for a WC GK. If you can sell Tek for ≈ 20m and sign Donnarumma for similar amount with agent fees and all it is a no brainer honestly.

 

[Robee]

You will probably have to look for a Woj replacement in a few years anyway. Only then it is likely you will have to pay well above 30-40m for a WC GK. If you can sell Tek for ≈ 20m and sign Donnarumma for similar amount with agent fees and all it is a no brainer honestly.

It would be if we actually had the cash and a squad not filled with more urgent matters to fix.

 

[GrandeGigi]

Biggest issue for me is once you give him 10million a season, every time there is another contract extension for a starter in our team, they will start demanding big pay rises.
I can already see the current crop asking for 7mill+ referring to squad rotation players like Rabiot and Ramsey on those numbers and just because they arrived on bosman’s I doubt that would wash with a first team starter with a knowledgable agent.

 

[IlCapitano]

It would be if we actually had the cash and a squad not filled with more urgent matters to fix.

I am only talking in case you can cash in on Woj. Selling him and getting Donnarumma is basically a wash in terms of finances.

Woj is on 7.5m net, Donnarumma would earn 10m net according to rumours.

If you can sell Tek for 20m and then give that money to Raiola and Gigi as agent/sign on fee it is a no brainer IMO. Even slightly more, like 5-10m more is still a great deal for a GK with 300 games in his belt and only 22 years old. He's yet to come even close to his prime years and we have the best GK coach in the world.

 

[Robee]

I am only talking in case you can cash in on Woj. Selling him and getting Donnarumma is basically a wash in terms of finances.

Woj is on 7.5m net, Donnarumma would earn 10m net according to rumours.

If you can sell Tek for 20m and then give that money to Raiola and Gigi as agent/sign on fee it is a no brainer IMO. Even slightly more, like 5-10m more is still a great deal for a GK with 300 games in his belt and only 22 years old. He's yet to come even close to his prime years and we have the best GK coach in the world.

And I see that, agree with it but cash is at a premium as it is. We're even haggling to extend Morata loan... I'd guess we'd actually have nothing to spend net if we don't qualify for the CL.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Polak is on 6.5, not 7.5

 

[Xperd]

 

[DAiDEViL]

Imo it's money we don't have, for a position that's the least of our worries.

 

[LiquidPLP]

Imo it's money we don't have, for a position that's the least of our worries.

I think this signing points to something not so obvious at the moment: there will be a lot of sales this Summer to rebuild. Unpopular opinion but I think that we'll ship off CR7, Dybala, Rabiot, Ramsey etc. so the wage bill will go down by a lot. The question is whether we'll be able to build a team that our next coach (Allegri?) will like.

We look at this from the point of squad evolution while everything else points to revolution tbh.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Imo it's money we don't have, for a position that's the least of our worries.

Fucking finally. I felt like a broken record yet people don't get my point.

I don't even have anything against this guy...

 

[Dostoevsky]

I think this signing points to something not so obvious at the moment: there will be a lot of sales this Summer to rebuild. Unpopular opinion but I think that we'll ship off CR7, Dybala, Rabiot, Ramsey etc. so the wage bill will go down by a lot. The question is whether we'll be able to build a team that our next coach (Allegri?) will like.

We look at this from the point of squad evolution while everything else points to revolution tbh.

If that's the case we should surely focus on rebuilding our mid and rebuilding our forward line, which is a huge task, especially since we need to replace guy who can score 40 goals per season. It's huge issues to replace and sign new 4 key players. That alone means thinking about a new GK is just stupid.

 

[Gigiventus]

Fucking finally. I felt like a broken record yet people don't get my point.

I don't even have anything against this guy...

I imagine many see your point. It makes sense, prioritize and sign accordingly.

This to me is a valid exception though. I don't know how much Szczesny is worth on the books, let's imagine he is sold for 20m to an EPL team, doesn't seem like a too high figure.

so that frees 20m + 15m per season in wages.

Donnarumma costs maybe 20-30m in fees + 20m per season in wages.

so it's an investment of around 10m extra this season to improve on Szczesny with a phenomenal player that is a decade younger.

It's a great opportunity.