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pitbull

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All this push out talk is nonsense. Even if it was the case. He is 41 next season and there is no room for sentimentality in football. I remember years ago people laughing at Milan pensioners. We cant keep Buffon forever just so one day he could win CL. And i know there will be those who say one more season. Its better to leave now on a high. Critics questioned some of his performances last season already. Particularly in CL. Prime Buffon would not have conceded 3 against Real. And the misjudgement against Kane.
which of the goals from the loss to Real you wanted Gigi to save? The 2 Ronaldo shots in top corner from close range or Marcelo's 1v1? Woj surely will disappoint you if you expect a goalie to get those
 

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icemaη

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which of the goals from the loss to Real you wanted Gigi to save? The 2 Ronaldo shots in top corner from close range or Marcelo's 1v1? Woj surely will disappoint you if you expect a goalie to get those
The mistake leading up to the overhead kick. Prime Buffon would have collected it at the edge of the box easily. His uncertainty caused Chiellini to react (incredibly poorly). It was a routine take if he was agile on his feet. I distinctly remember Szczeny gathering a similar ball easily just a couple of weeks later. Buffon has been always great in organising the defence around him, not any more.
 
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People trying to claim that Buffon will now be at a club where he is appreciated, whereas Juve fans kicked him out the door and called him trash. Facebook comments are highly entertaining when you’re bored
 

pitbull

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icemaη;5793967 said:
The mistake leading up to the overhead kick. Prime Buffon would have collected it at the edge of the box easily. His uncertainty caused Chiellini to react (incredibly poorly). It was a routine take if he was agile on his feet. I distinctly remember Szczeny gathering a similar ball easily just a couple of weeks later. Buffon has been always great in organising the defence around him, not any more.
I agree about him judging poorly that ball, he should've collected that. But that's a normal mistake not some grave error, it just got magnified because Chiellini made a colossal fuckup and afterwards Ronaldo had all the freedom in the world to make that shot middle of the box. Prime Buffon could've made that error and no one would be blaming him for it.

I disagree about Buffon not being able to organize a defense, most of the time we defended very well past season when Max dropped the 4231 for 433, our defense going on a crazy run was what allowed us to close the gap to Napoli. For me the most shaky moments were when Woj was in goal behind Rugani-Benatia duo.
 

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People trying to claim that Buffon will now be at a club where he is appreciated, whereas Juve fans kicked him out the door and called him trash. Facebook comments are highly entertaining when you’re bored
Really? I have to avoid it. This stupidity on antisocial media makes me angry as fuck.
 

Wittl

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it's actually possible. more likely that Ronaldo to Juve and Buffon to PSG imo.
Then we will see who it is/was. Juve or Buffon. One of them will rest a fucken CL-final choker.

Hopefully Buffon, not winning the CL is part of his story and it is okay like this. @A D A M @Snobist
 

Seven

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WΏΏdy?;5793850 said:
Regarding homosexuality and premarital sex and what not I doubt people go to see a world cup to get fucked in the ass
Then why did Egypt and Saudi Arabia participate this year?
 

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I agree about him judging poorly that ball, he should've collected that. But that's a normal mistake not some grave error, it just got magnified because Chiellini made a colossal fuckup and afterwards Ronaldo had all the freedom in the world to make that shot middle of the box. Prime Buffon could've made that error and no one would be blaming him for it.

I disagree about Buffon not being able to organize a defense, most of the time we defended very well past season when Max dropped the 4231 for 433, our defense going on a crazy run was what allowed us to close the gap to Napoli. For me the most shaky moments were when Woj was in goal behind Rugani-Benatia duo.
Wojciech in goal for 20 matches, we went 16 wins - 1 loss - 3 draws, with 9 goals conceded.

So :lol: that he was responsible for the shaky moments. He was fantastic when he played. While Buffon is still up there in some aspects of keeping, it's quite clear that Woj is in the ascendancy, having his best couple years, while GIgi was in a very clear decline this year, only his intelligence and brilliant positioning keep him near the top of his game.

Also Szczesny is a far better ball handler and far more accurate passer of the ball, which proved incredibly useful with Bonucci gone. Conversely, it was one of the main reasons we had so much trouble breaking out from high pressing teams with Buffon in net.
 

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Hasn't Qatar recently lost diplomatic relations with most of their neighbors over faking a kidnapping of a prince to funnel money to Isis? :howler:
Not only that. Qatar was leading the funding of ISIS in its beginnings in Iraq when it wasn't making the headlines, and then funded other Jihadist groups that merged with ISIS in Syria. Not to mention the exposure and favorable stories AlJazeera, which is %100 state-owned, gave to Jihadists since AlQaeda days.

PSG's Al-Khelaifi is the founder and CEO of BeIn Sports which is owned by Aljazeera Media Network.
 

king Ale

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icemaη;5793967 said:
The mistake leading up to the overhead kick. Prime Buffon would have collected it at the edge of the box easily. His uncertainty caused Chiellini to react (incredibly poorly). It was a routine take if he was agile on his feet. I distinctly remember Szczeny gathering a similar ball easily just a couple of weeks later. Buffon has been always great in organising the defence around him, not any more.
Chiellini was as big a (if not THE) culprit on that goal. Ironic that Szczesny conceded a similar goal in the world cup.

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it's actually possible. more likely that Ronaldo to Juve and Buffon to PSG imo.
If we have to lose another final, better to lose it to Gigi than anybody else :boh:

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The evidence is overwhelming. Of course the USA aren't afraid to stir up shit if it suits them, but even they won't start criminal proceedings just like that. And if Bill Clinton, surely no stranger to scheming and plotting, feels cheated after the vote, I tend to believe him.

I never asked Buffon to speak out against the World Cup. But asking a multi millionaire to not endorse cheating scumbags for yet another easy payday surely does not seem like much.

Unfortunately our heroes are fallible. If he sells out, he sells out. It's only painful when fans refuse to believe it.

But, like I said, I think it's totally believable he just wants to compete for more trophies.

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Hist

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People complaining about Qatar hosting on moral grounds when the current world cup is hosted in Russia :lol:

Syria, Crimea, backing of Iranian regime, trading with North Korea. Qatar is a POS but they are amateurs next to Russia.

Atleast the US/western sphere of influence has liberal democratic values and arent dictatorships even if their instrument of expansion is war.

People hating "dirty arab sheikhs" "oil money" in football pretend their motivation is morality but dont make a fuss when its American, Russian or Asian owners. Its a mask of their bigotry
 

WΏΏdy?

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Not only that. Qatar was leading the funding of ISIS in its beginnings in Iraq when it wasn't making the headlines, and then funded other Jihadist groups that merged with ISIS in Syria. Not to mention the exposure and favorable stories AlJazeera, which is %100 state-owned, gave to Jihadists since AlQaeda days.

PSG's Al-Khelaifi is the founder and CEO of BeIn Sports which is owned by Aljazeera Media Network.
That's so bad, almost as bad as creating and arming alqaeda for fighting the Russians in Afghanistan because it suits US's interests at that time, or helping create ISIS by invading and destroy Iraq. Its cute that Qatar is the evil here when you have Russia holding the current world cup, RUSSIA :lol2:

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People complaining about Qatar hosting on moral grounds when the current world cup is hosted in Russia :lol:

Syria, Crimea, backing of Iranian regime, trading with North Korea. Qatar is a POS but they are amateurs next to Russia.

Atleast the US/western sphere of influence has liberal democratic values and arent dictatorships even if their instrument of expansion is war.

People hating "dirty arab sheikhs" "oil money" in football pretend their motivation is morality but dont make a fuss when its American, Russian or Asian owners. Its a mask of their bigotry
I fecking hate the Arabs but this butthurt about Qatar is delicious, especially when they bring up the holier than thou reason for Qatar getting stripped

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Then we will see who it is/was. Juve or Buffon. One of them will rest a fucken CL-final choker.

Hopefully Buffon, not winning the CL is part of his story and it is okay like this. @A D A M @Snobist
Why would you wish we face him and we break his heart? Isn't it simpler to win it by not facing him at all?
 

Stephan

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People complaining about Qatar hosting on moral grounds when the current world cup is hosted in Russia :lol:

Syria, Crimea, backing of Iranian regime, trading with North Korea. Qatar is a POS but they are amateurs next to Russia.

Atleast the US/western sphere of influence has liberal democratic values and arent dictatorships even if their instrument of expansion is war.

People hating "dirty arab sheikhs" "oil money" in football pretend their motivation is morality but dont make a fuss when its American, Russian or Asian owners. Its a mask of their bigotry
Spot on.

Dirty oily italian fiat money. Fiats leak like hell.
 

pitbull

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Wojciech in goal for 20 matches, we went 16 wins - 1 loss - 3 draws, with 9 goals conceded.

So :lol: that he was responsible for the shaky moments. He was fantastic when he played. While Buffon is still up there in some aspects of keeping, it's quite clear that Woj is in the ascendancy, having his best couple years, while GIgi was in a very clear decline this year, only his intelligence and brilliant positioning keep him near the top of his game.

Also Szczesny is a far better ball handler and far more accurate passer of the ball, which proved incredibly useful with Bonucci gone. Conversely, it was one of the main reasons we had so much trouble breaking out from high pressing teams with Buffon in net.
I never said Woj is responsible for shaky moments, I said our shakiest (or most disorganized :D) moments in defense came with Woj behind Rugani and Benatia in response to criticism about Buffon not being able to organize a defense. Of course it could be down to Ruganis quality, Benatias mentality or just a few bad performances

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/f...t-vote-triggered-global-search-for-truth.html

I'm not sure what you mean exactly.

I'm also completely confused as to why you seem to believe that Qatar in any possible way had the best bid. It's just impossible.
Are you playing dumb or just missed the part she bolded? It is a very cutely phrased argument indeed :D
 

king Ale

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/f...t-vote-triggered-global-search-for-truth.html

I'm not sure what you mean exactly.

I'm also completely confused as to why you seem to believe that Qatar in any possible way had the best bid. It's just impossible.
I mean talking about overwhelming evidence and then concluding that paragraph with that Clinton bit?

I don't care about or for Qatar. I find it hard to believe that they were the first ones who bribed their way and got away with it despite the overwhelming evidence against them. They got what they paid for, the blame is on those who allowed this to happen. And as a matter of principle and to prevent similar things from happening in the future, those countries that strongly believe Qatar bought the world cup should boycott it.
 

Seven

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I mean talking about overwhelming evidence and then concluding that paragraph with that Clinton bit?

I don't care about or for Qatar. I find it hard to believe that they were the first ones who bribed their way and got away with it despite the overwhelming evidence against them. They got what they paid for, the blame is on those who allowed this to happen. And as a matter of principle and to prevent similar things from happening in the future, those countries that strongly believe Qatar bought the world cup should boycott it.

Clinton is just anecdotal evidence. But it does tell you something. Obviously the part of the criminal proceedings (there is such a thing as court transcripts you know) was the bulk of the evidence. But you conveniently ignored that. As you always do during arguments.

And no, boycotting sports events will never work. It also unjustly punishes the athletes who have nothing to do with the bidding process in the first place.
 

pitbull

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I don't think it's very likely that Juve and PSG meet in CL final, for that to happen both teams need to be strong enough to eliminate all the other contenders in addition to the luck of draw keeping them, 2 teams from different countries, separate until final. It is likely however that we may meet at some point in the knockouts as very few teams are powerful enough to eliminate either Juventus or PSG.
 

WΏΏdy?

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I mean talking about overwhelming evidence and then concluding that paragraph with that Clinton bit?

I don't care about or for Qatar. I find it hard to believe that they were the first ones who bribed their way and got away with it despite the overwhelming evidence against them. They got what they paid for, the blame is on those who allowed this to happen. And as a matter of principle and to prevent similar things from happening in the future, those countries that strongly believe Qatar bought the world cup should boycott it.
Yep, boycott it, don't send your teams and don't watch it on telly.

Ya know 99% of peeps complaining about this are the ones would won't be going there for the world cup while 100% of people who WILL go are going to probably love it there.
 

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