giandomenico mesto (3 Viewers)

[tonykart]

I wouldn't argue with that Lion. But, it doesn't look like you and Secco share the same mentality. I also dont thing key players want to come here right now. We have to lean on our stars more than ever next year. Someone just told me that DP, Nedved and Camo can't hack it at the next level, and maybe they are right (although I disagree), but if so, we are in deeper water than we know.

We can get all the exciting attacking players we want, but it is our defense that is our weak point right now and until we can claim a solid pair of CB's or a solid central midfield combination, than we are doomed in Serie A. This isn't England or Spain, like it or not, defense wins in A.

 

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[Mike-e-y]

Mike "da" don...

maybe since you are such a brilliant observer or talent and Juventus' needs, you should go work for the club. Or, maybe you could just keep posting fantasy women on your avatar while you sit in your dungeon and collect pimples.

Diego, Pato, Ribery... get real. Let's try and stick with folks we may have a chance at getting.

BTW, did we ever get a link with berbatov? He is an excellent player. Couldn't fill in DP's role, but would love to see him on Juve.

o shut up would you your becoming boring and predictable, i wasnt insulting you so at least have the decency to have a civilised conversation for a change.

you also think your a brilliant observer of talent, the whole point in these forums is the coming together of different opinions and the gaining of knowledge, i have learnt a lot about players just from listening to other people, you have no ears and are not worth talking to...

im sorry does the woman in my avatar offend you??? maybe i should put a donkey up there instead! thats more to your taste isnt it.

you seem to be implying that i am a geek, lol you would be one of the first people to ever call me that, i must admit that at the moment i am revising so i suppose i am beeing geeky but hey im in uni and have a degree to get im not on my school break like you sitting in the library wondering why i have no friends.

and i certainly do not have a dungeon, as cool as that would be. Also i do not have any pimples, so unlucky!

we have been linked with diego, pato and ribery and i dont believe they are so out of our reach, have more faith in the club you claim to support.

and yes we have been linked with berbatov, check the BARBIE thread we were not actually linked with the doll that you collect and play with by the maturity that you posess

 

[tonykart]

"and yes we have been linked with berbatov, check the BARBIE thread we were not actually linked with the doll that you collect and play with by the maturity that you posess"

a mature comment. That is what I would expect from someone called "da don". I didn't mean to make you foam at the mouth, and I also picked your asinine remark to my original post to respond to, because unlike the others that disagreed, yours was loud-mouthed and absolute.

It is also amusing how much offense you take at my personal attacks. Interesting for sure. If I am not worth talking to, then why continue on for 6 paragraphs?

Put it this way, at least our conversation on here came down to more than This player sucks, or I love the boots Nedved is wearing this year. Thats me being optimistic.

My pride in the club isn't shaken by the recent failures in the market. However, although it may be early for transfer talks, it is not so pre-mature when taking into consideration that the futures or Trez, Camo, and Buffon with the club depend on our transfers. Am I discouraged. YES. So, far Diego, Pato (who cares) and Ribery have given no indication about playing for Juventus. I have not heard of any link to Berbatov.

These forums are a "decent" rumor source, and a fun place to debate about issues regarding Juventus. You are no more right than I am in your mindless debate over my post. Please get some self-confidence, grab a bottle, and calm down.

 

[tonykart]

We need to save money this year, because we are not going to bring in the players we want, and the last thing we need is to be stuck with big contracts for players that don't really want to be here. We have a great nucleaus of veteran leadership and young talent. We need to fill in the gaps and use some of the players that were starters this year as backups next.

 

[tonykart]

We can't just go buying 8 players.

 

[Mike-e-y]

"and yes we have been linked with berbatov, check the BARBIE thread we were not actually linked with the doll that you collect and play with by the maturity that you posess"

a mature comment. That is what I would expect from someone called "da don". I didn't mean to make you foam at the mouth, and I also picked your asinine remark to my original post to respond to, because unlike the others that disagreed, yours was loud-mouthed and absolute.

It is also amusing how much offense you take at my personal attacks. Interesting for sure. If I am not worth talking to, then why continue on for 6 paragraphs?

Put it this way, at least our conversation on here came down to more than This player sucks, or I love the boots Nedved is wearing this year. Thats me being optimistic.

My pride in the club isn't shaken by the recent failures in the market. However, although it may be early for transfer talks, it is not so pre-mature when taking into consideration that the futures or Trez, Camo, and Buffon with the club depend on our transfers. Am I discouraged. YES. So, far Diego, Pato (who cares) and Ribery have given no indication about playing for Juventus. I have not heard of any link to Berbatov.

These forums are a "decent" rumor source, and a fun place to debate about issues regarding Juventus. You are no more right than I am in your mindless debate over my post. Please get some self-confidence, grab a bottle, and calm down.

so what exactly is a mature comment:
'Or, maybe you could just keep posting fantasy women on your avatar while you sit in your dungeon and collect pimples'
Is that one?

and my post was not loud mouthed, i was just voicing my opinion that the team you suggested would not be good enough. I am not taking offence to your personal attacks, i just think they are immature and reflective of yourself, maybe from some horrific events in your childhood you feel the need to lash out.

im not bashing you for talking about transfers, im bashing you for writing players out of our policy who we have been linked with, seems a strange thing to do...

self confidence..... hhmmm another mature comment, surely having a debate shows self confidence, do you even know the meaning of the words your throwing about! joker

 

[tonykart]

Having a debate doesn't mean anything about self confidence. It just means you like to run your mouth. I am sure you are a tough ghetto boy the way you call yourself da don. I am sure you know how to wear oversized clothes, your hat crooked and your pants down your ass. I am sure you have build up a sweet internet persona and you oil it daily. That is fine. Do what you have to do.

Unless you want to talk about Juventus I am done listening to your pathetic atempts at combacks and putdowns.

 

[Lion]

This thread is to discuss Mesto only. Both of you can get back on topic or leave in peace. Stop acting like Kids, you are both better than that.

 

[Bjerknes]

Yes, you have a point. However, it could happen that Zebina will be moved to cb position. Grygera also. Birindelli will soon retire and Balzaretti is originally a left back. Piccolo is crap and he will be released. Salihamidzic is a best option for a rb starter.

Blasi is useless imo and he should be sold or used to decrease the price of Mesto if we are going to sign him. Olivera and Gasbarroni are history I think, there is no place for them in Juve. Also, God knows what will we do with Miccoli and Kapo too.

To be completely honest I prefer Marchionni over Mesto. The way things are going we will be overflowed by right backs and midfielders. Brazzo, Grygera, Birindelli, Zebina, Blasi, Balza (even though he is suited better as a lb), Mesto, Camoranesi, etc....

What´s the point of this? I really don´t understand what the board is doing.

Or I am just really confused at the moment.....

Yeah, I was wondering about that last night. We keep signing right-wingers that can also play right-back and now we're going to give away Marchionni who is a capable player. But the funny thing is, the wings are not really the problem for us... the problem resides right down the middle with the two centerbacks and two central middies. Unfortunately, though, Secco and company hasn't really seemed to address those issues yet. But it's fairly early so no need to panic just yet.

 

[Oggy]

If we pick up Huntelaar then Bianchi would be a waste of money. I would love to see Bianchi on Juventus, but perhaps next year would be best. Between the players on our current roster and the acquisition of Mesto, we wouldn't need to spend money on another SM.

We are obviously not exactly raking in the big timers and I have a hard time beleiving that any foreign players truly want to wear our Jersey right now. Our best bet is to save some money this time and spend big next year. We need to prove that Juventus will be back by fielding a competetive squad next year before we can start bringing in the big names again.

How do you expect to field competative squad without some important (read "big names" or "stars") signings. Our current team including arrivals of Sali, Gygera, Criscito will be eaten alive in A. That's why we should sign few (3-4) excellent players not just to be competative in A, than also to convice our current star players to stay. And signings of Mesto doesn't convice me (especially Gigi) he will be sub and we need someone who will play and make inpact in first team not the bench.

 

[Mike-e-y]

This thread is to discuss Mesto only. Both of you can get back on topic or leave in peace. Stop acting like Kids, you are both better than that.

good point, tony was turing the debate into a school yard argument as usual.

anyway,
i have not seen a great deal of mesto but he has been hyped up for a long time and i remember us being liked to him about 2 years back, i'm not sure if hes up to taking us back in to europe, especially considering camo's uncertain future, we need world class and we need it soon, mesto is not what we need

 

[tonykart]

How do you expect to field competative squad without some important (read "big names" or "stars") signings. Our current team including arrivals of Sali, Gygera, Criscito will be eaten alive in A. That's why we should sign few (3-4) excellent players not just to be competative in A, than also to convice our current star players to stay. And signings of Mesto doesn't convice me (especially Gigi) he will be sub and we need someone who will play and make inpact in first team not the bench.

My point is... I don't think we will be able to convince three big names to come to Juventus this year. Most of these players seem to be using us as bait to either get a new contract from their clubs or get a bigger contract from another. I totaly agree with you on that. I beleive in quality over quantity. However, based on our current situation and with the recent turn of events, I just don't see the big names coming to Juventus. I think we should take advantage of the players we have now, some of the young players we have developed, and some of the players we have returning from loans that are fully capable of playing serie a football and try and field a squad that can make it to the CL.

I really want the big names too, but I just don't think the situation is good enough right now for the hotshoes to desire a Juventus switch. Not many people really care about the history of this great club. Most of them (and it is hard to argue) just want money and success. This includes some of the "loyal" players who are threatening to leave.

 

[tonykart]

As far as Mesto goes. He is a good player, with a good upside and will be a good role player for Juventus. A big signing... no. But, he can provide the adequate backup we will need at the next level.

A very good point was made earlier in this thread about why we keep signing wing players when our apparent problem is up the middle. I couldn't agree with this more. All I can say is that I have no idea. I just hope we don't plan on starting the Serie A season with Kovac or Boumsong in our Central defense. As far as I am concerned we need 4 positions filled. Two CB's, 1 DM and 1 Backup Striker.

If we sign Mesto, it should complete our flanks (whethere people like it or not) and then we can focus on the central positions. Or, let's hope.

 

[Stu]

Mesto? Meh...

 

[Red]

Mesto? Meh...

Pretty much sums it up.

 

[Midzata®]

Cammo is thinking his mind again...
Probably we will be weak on the right evein if we bought mesto.

 

[Redangel]

Sorry if I opened a new thread about this discussion... I didn't see this one


Bianconeri vicinissimi a Mesto
17 05 2007
La Juventus sarebbe ad un passo dal chiudere la trattativa per Giandomenico Mesto, esterno destro della Reggina.
Juve could be really close to Giandomenico Mesto, right external of Reggina.

L'operazione dovrebbe essere ufficializzata dopo il raggiungimento della salvezza da parte del club calabrese, cui dovrebbero andare 5 milioni di euro più la comproprietà di uno dei giovani bianconeri messisi in luce nell'attuale campionato di Serie B.
The operation would be officialised after the reaching of saving by the Calabrian team, they will have 5 milion Euro and the comproperty of obne young Juve player saw this year in Serie B.

Juventus e Reggina stanno anche discutendo da tempo anche di Rolando Bianchi a Torino: al momento l'operazione è in fase di stallo perché i bianconeri stanno chiudendo l'acquisto di Vincenzo Iaquinta dall'Udinese ma nel caso dovesse partire David Trezeguet, proprio la punta dei calabresi sarebbe il candidato numero uno a sostituirlo, con la Vecchia Signora che avrebbe addirittura già un'opzione per assicurarselo.
Juve and Reggina are also discussing about Rolando Bianchi in Turin: at the moment the operation is in pause coz B&W are closing the purchasing of Iaquinta from Udinese, but in the case Trezeguet leaves, he could be the nr.1 candidate to substitute him, with the Juve that would have already an option to fix him.

 

[RAMI-N]

Bianchi, Iaquinta and Hunter !!!
by the way who are B&W ?!

 

[Marc]

by the way who are B&W ?!

Black & White, Bianconeri.....

 

[RAMI-N]

Black & White, Bianconeri.....

Thanks Marko :toast: