Giampaolo Pazzini - ST - Milan (27 Viewers)

[Dostoevsky]

Pazzini is a better finisher, and a more efficient striker than Matri.

However, just like Matri, he needs to have proper service. The big difference between the two is that Pazzini is more clinical.

Despite Matri being the slightly more athletic player, he doesn't use his abilities as well as Pazzini does.

That being said, if Pazzini is the marquee striker signing, I'm going to be underwhelmed, to be perfectly honest.

I just disagree.

Also, I believe Matri adds more to a team and opens himself much more often than Pazzini who's usually playing more deep. If team has a bad day then Pazzini will be a casper and I hate that type of players who can't change anything when team is rusty.

 

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[KB824]

I just disagree.

Also, I believe Matri adds more to a team and opens himself much more often than Pazzini who's usually playing more deep. If team has a bad day then Pazzini will be a casper and I hate that type of players who can't change anything when team is rusty.

Dusan, we can certainly agree to disagree on this. However, even with his awful season last year of 8 goals in all competitions, his goal scoring rate the past 3 seasons is still superior to Matri

 

[Dostoevsky]

Dusan, we can certainly agree to disagree on this. However, even with his awful season last year of 8 goals in all competitions, his goal scoring rate the past 3 seasons is still superior to Matri

Giovinco did score 15 goals, but that doesn't have to mean he's a better finisher, no?

Di Natale wouldn't score 25 goals at Juve.

 

[KB824]

Giovinco did score 15 goals, but that doesn't have to mean he's a better finisher, no?

Di Natale wouldn't score 25 goals at Juve.

No, it doesn't mean that he is a better finisher, but Giovinco was also the focal point of Parma's attack last year. The 15 goals last year could have been an anamoly, but I also feel that Pazzini's season last year was also an anamoly. The three seasons prior to that he scored 16, 21, and 23 goals respectively. The track record is there for him.

Again, let me state as I had mentioned earlier is that if he is the only signing for the attack this year, it will be a disappointment, but it would be crazy, in my opinion, to state that he is not better than what they already have right now.

 

[A_LAcki]

Im with Dule 90 on this one. I mentioned it before in the Matri threrad, Conte's system is one, that wants the strikers to move around, to go to the wing, get the ball inside the own half etc., the midfielders a moving box to box all the time, I really don't think a poacher like Pazzini would fit in, thats why we were linked with strikers, that have very good technical abbility and provide threat outside the box as well as inside, like Jovetic and RVP.
However, Pazzini for a low price is a bargain and adds depth to the striking force. Him together with Jovetic would be PERFECT!

 

[Dostoevsky]

No, it doesn't mean that he is a better finisher, but Giovinco was also the focal point of Parma's attack last year. The 15 goals last year could have been an anamoly, but I also feel that Pazzini's season last year was also an anamoly. The three seasons prior to that he scored 16, 21, and 23 goals respectively. The track record is there for him.

Again, let me state as I had mentioned earlier is that if he is the only signing for the attack this year, it will be a disappointment, but it would be crazy, in my opinion, to state that he is not better than what they already have right now.

For Fiorentina, he kinda choked at Inter. Many players fail to settle when pressure comes at a bigger club, he was also I think he's a player for midtable teams so I guess we'll agree to disagree.

 

[Nzoric]

In his first half season at Inter he did an amazing job. To judge any player from the inter team based on last season is unfair to the individual player. Pazzini wasn't at fault for their season nor did he get a proper chance to prove himself.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Then I don't know why people hate Amauri.

 

[Nzoric]

Partially because of his inability to perform for several seasons and him leeching the club dry after he was told that he wasn't in our plans. Pazzini had 1 poor season, he's now been told that he's a surplus to demands and is obviously open to a move somewhere else.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Partially because of his inability to perform for several seasons and him leeching the club dry after he was told that he wasn't in our plans. Pazzini had 1 poor season, he's now been told that he's a surplus to demands and is obviously open to a move somewhere else.

Many players want and do that, they mostly chase only money so I don't hate him cause of that.

There's nothing that says it will be a more successful season now. Like I said, players like him add nothing when team suffers, he only makes it look worse because they are nowhere to be seen. Mediocre player at best who only scored goals at Sampdora. But that's fine, we'll just agree to disagree

 

[Ahmed]

because he performed for 0.5 years out of 4 and refused multiple transfers.

 

[Salvo]

A poor inter as well though. I would prefer to keep Matri and look elsewhere for a quality CF.

 

[alexjuventino]

This is the difference between Matri and Pazzini. Matri goes on the wings and tries to find any space that he can get the ball and try to make something out of it. While Pazzini will be in the center of the field waiting for a pass or a cross. Matri doesnt score a lot because hes running all around trying to help while Pazzini will be only waiting.

 

[Dostoevsky]

because he performed for 0.5 years out of 4 and refused multiple transfers.

If you were earning 1000e per month you'd probably refuse to earn 100e somewhere else.

Multiple transfers? He was sooo poor, I highly doubt anyone wanted him, it was Tuttosport rubbish.

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This is the difference between Matri and Pazzini. Matri goes on the wings and tries to find any space that he can get the ball and try to make something out of it. While Pazzini will be in the center of the field waiting for a pass or a cross. Matri doesnt score a lot because hes running all around trying to help while Pazzini will be only waiting.

True. Pazzini moves much less, which is even worse of course. I don't think Conte likes that.. he likes players who can do everything and have good technique and can finish the game off, Pazzini is not that.

 

[KB824]

For Fiorentina, he kinda choked at Inter. Many players fail to settle when pressure comes at a bigger club, he was also I think he's a player for midtable teams so I guess we'll agree to disagree.

Wrong. Those numbers reflect what amounts to 2 full seasons at Sampdoria. And he settled in just fine in the 2nd half of 2010-2011 with Inter. So, it's either he is a good player (as the 2008/09, 2009/20, and 2010/11 seasons reflect) who had a miserable year last year, or he is a bad player who just got lucky the three previous seasons to this one.

 

[Salvatore]

Multiple transfers? He was sooo poor, I highly doubt anyone wanted him, it was Tuttosport rubbish.

Multiple transfers, I don't know. It was confirmed that Marseille came in (they're a big European team) with an offer, giving him wages of just above half of what he got at Juve IIRC, and he refused them. He said he thought he could win a place back in the team. And he was completely ignored by everyone at the club.

 

[KB824]

This is the difference between Matri and Pazzini. Matri goes on the wings and tries to find any space that he can get the ball and try to make something out of it. While Pazzini will be in the center of the field waiting for a pass or a cross. Matri doesnt score a lot because hes running all around trying to help while Pazzini will be only waiting.

But aren't we all looking for a goal scorer here? Wasn't that the reason that matri was brought in the first place?

I'm not disrespecting Matri at all, because I liked the move when it first happened, but the truth of the matter is that when it comes to the primary role of a striker, to score goals, Pazzini is better at it.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Wrong. Those numbers reflect what amounts to 2 full seasons at Sampdoria. And he settled in just fine in the 2nd half of 2010-2011 with Inter. So, it's either he is a good player (as the 2008/09, 2009/20, and 2010/11 seasons reflect) who had a miserable year last year, or he is a bad player who just got lucky the three previous seasons to this one.

Sorry I meant to say Sampdoria. Same thing really, a mid table club.

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Multiple transfers, I don't know. It was confirmed that Marseille came in (they're a big European team) with an offer, giving him wages of just above half of what he got at Juve IIRC, and he refused them. He said he thought he could win a place back in the team. And he was completely ignored by everyone at the club.

You know very well you'd do the same if you were in his place. Like majority of the forum. But it doesn't even matter, I gave the Amauri comparison because he was great when he joined, yet failed miserably later on.

 

[KB824]

Sorry I meant to say Sampdoria. Same thing really, a mid table club.

Well, where was Matri before he came to Juve? And what was Matri's goal scoring rate at Cagliari before he came to Juve? It was not on the level of Pazzini's, that I can tell you.

 

[Dostoevsky]

But aren't we all looking for a goal scorer here? Wasn't that the reason that matri was brought in the first place?

I'm not disrespecting Matri at all, because I liked the move when it first happened, but the truth of the matter is that when it comes to the primary role of a striker, to score goals, Pazzini is better at it.

What's wrong with Matri's numbers? He started 23 matches while in others he came from the bench but yet he scored 10 goals and had 4 assists. It's not bad at all and he was better than Pazzini this season. Last season he scored 20 goals for JUVE and not Sampdoria, he was very good. We're planning to change the two players for no reason whatsoever.