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    German international Arne Friedrich is confident ahead of Hertha Berlin's top-of-the-table clash with Bayern Munich.

    The two sides have gained 10 points each, but while Hertha remain unbeaten this season, Bayern have lost twice in the Bundesliga.

    Friedrich believes Hertha have a good chance of upsetting the title favourites in Munich's Allianz Arena.

    "Bayern are not in the same form they were last season as currently no Bundesliga team plays on a constant level and we are keen to upset them on Saturday," he said.

    "Hertha have always been the outsiders when we faced Bayern, but motivation-wise this is the best game of the season as no one needs extra motivation against them."

    The 27-year-old believes Hertha's youth policy will stand the club in good stead for the future.

    He added: "We have many young and fresh players, who have the chance to gain vital experience this season and I am sure that in the future we will have a very good team."
     

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    Newly promoted Alemania Aachen are top of Die Bundesliga after a 3-1 win over Mainz on Friday evening.

    Mainz took the lead at the Stadion Am Bruchweg when Marco Rose scored on the half hour.

    The lead did not last long, though, as Thomas Stehle levelled within four minutes.

    Alemania had the lead before the interval when Sascha Rosler pounced.

    The win was sealed just 12 minutes from time when Marius Ebbers scored.
     
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    Bayern beat Hertha convincingly , the interesting thing is that Magath started with all 3 strikers.
    Bremen hammered Bochum 6-0, but that doesnt show anything as they r a weak team
    Glad to see Dortmund back to winning ways and up to 2 points from the leaders.It was a young team that they fielded including the subs.

    Schalke beat Hamburg and they continue their good form.Hamburg still underachieving
     
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    Hamburg coach Thomas Doll insists he is not considering throwing in the towel.

    The Rothosen have failed to win a single match this season and are second from bottom in the Bundesliga.

    They have also lost their opening three group games in the UEFA Champions League and the pressure is mounting on Doll.

    However, Doll still believes he has the ability to turn things around:

    He explained: "It's not about me. If I had the feeling that things were no longer working, then I'd say 'Thank you, that was that. I've had two great years'.

    "But I haven't reached that point yet.

    "This club is a part of me and I can still see how hard people are working within the management.

    "I won't let the current situation get me down as that would just make things worse.

    "In fact the opposite is the case. I'm going to lead from the front to ensure that we win (our next game) in Leverkusen."

    The 40-year-old coach also received backing from club chairman Bernd Hoffmann, who described him as a "huge coaching talent."

    There are a lot of people here who are prepared to fight for this club's future - in the team, amongst the coaching staff and on the board," Hoffman said.
     
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    According to Uli, He knows whats Hamburg's problem
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    One of the things Jürgen Klinsmann taught the football nation this summer was that a scientific approach to the game, long frowned upon by traditionalists, may not be such a bad idea after all.


    Whenever you see a member of the coaching staff in the behind-the-scenes documentary that opened in our cinemas early this month, a laptop is nearby. And when the Californian fitness nerds Klinsmann brought in explain what they are doing, they tend to use an impressive amount of Latin terms.

    But competitive sport is also the sanctuary of spiritualists. Players are, almost without exception, superstituous and dread any change to their tried and tested match routine.

    The fans are probably worse. A friend of mine used to take a bath every Saturday afternoon because his team, Cologne, had once come from behind to win while he was lying in the bathtub, listening to the game on the radio. In 'Fever Pitch', Nick Hornby mentions that he asked a friend to put on a Buzzcocks LP whenever Arsenal were playing. (When the Gunners lost despite this precaution, Hornby didn't question the ritual but suspected his friend had forgotten about his orders.)

    And if I should die of lung cancer, feel free to blame it on too many lucky fags, smoked to will Dortmund into scoring.

    Of course this is all rubbish. Right? Hmm. Those of you who have seen Hamburg's Champions League tie with Porto on Tuesday may beg to differ. I mean, yes, the Portugese won deservedly and, yes, there was a lucky moment for Hamburg when Nigel de Jong went berserk in his own box only for the referee to book the maimed Porto player for play acting.

    But by and large this night was a prime example for what kind of game football can be when you're jinxed. Last campaign Hamburg were the success story of the Bundesliga, this season they are still winless - not to mention that they, statistically, have a man sent off every second game.

    And of course the sky blackened and a thunderstorm broke loose the moment they set foot on the pitch in Porto. During the first quarter of an hour, things were so bad that only a black screen appeared whenever German television attempted to make contact with Hamburg's game. How fitting.

    Then Collin Benjamin nicely set up the opponent's first goal with an inexplicable backpass. This was followed by the referee robbing Danijel Ljuboja of a perfectly legal equaliser.

    Finally, in the waning moments of the first half, Ljuboja went up for a harmless cross in Hamburg's penalty area and suddenly got it into his head it would be a nice idea to simply knock the ball away with his hand. As soon as his feet touched the ground again, he covered his head with his hands, realising what he had done - withouth having the faintest notion why. Oh, and the Porto goal that finally sealed matters for good, Helder Postiga's 3-0, should have been called offside but of course wasn't.

    Whenever I see such games, or more precisely: such teams, I have to think back to the 1990-91 season. When the Bundesliga went into the winter break, Dortmund were in a very decent sixth place and everything was just dandy. We had won the derby with Bochum, we had beaten title-holders Bayern Munich at their own ground and the last game before the nine-week lay-off had resulted in an away win at St Pauli. Christmas was very nice, as you can imagine.

    And then it all collapsed. In the first eleven minutes of the first game after the winter break, Dortmund conceded three goals in Stuttgart. The final result was 7-0. From that day on, we just couldn't win. Even two-goal leads against last-place Hertha and Bochum weren't enough.

    This went on for more than three months, and while the club officials did all the usual things - saying 'We just have to work harder', assuring everybody that things would turn out well, shuffling the line-up, coming up with psychological tricks to bring back self-belief - the fans realised quickly what was going on: Dortmund were jinxed.

    Now, it's become my conviction, after thirty years of watching and covering football, that such jinxes do exist and that there is nothing, absolutely nothing you can do about them. You may train until the sun goes down - or you may tell the players to stay at home and get their minds off football; it makes no difference.


    You can call up youngsters from the reserve team or give your established starters a vote of confidence by sticking with them; it makes no difference. Sign the World Footballer of the Year or go back to wearing last year's kit; it makes no difference.

    Your only hope is that there will come a day when you play a team that is also jinxed. Which is why, back in 1991, I started brooding over the schedule as early as mid-April, when it had become abundantly clear we were indeed cursed. The only chance, as far as I could see, was the May 31 encounter with Uerdingen, who were mired in the drop zone. Until then, we could only grin and bear it.

    Guess what? That's exactly what happened. We went into that game winless since December, while Uerdingen were four points off the pace in their fight against relegation. It was a predictably awful match. Seconds before the break, Uerdingen were awarded a penalty, but their jinx was so strong that our goalkeeper managed to save the shot.

    And five minutes from time, we somehow found the net - and that was enough to win 1-0. Needless to say, we then won the very next match as well, away at Leverkusen, and also the final game of the season.

    I admit this will be little solace for Hamburg's supporters. But maybe it helps to take away a bit of the despair they must feel, because once you resign yourself to the fact you are in the hands of a higher force, breathing becomes a bit easier.

    And a cursory glance at the Bundesliga schedule has me presume November 11 could be the day of the turnaround. That's when Hamburg host Gladbach. Whose fans readily admit their team is cursed whenever it plays away from home.
     
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    The top-of-the-table clash at the Weserstadion is eagerly anticipated, but the German international midfielder sat out training once more on Thursday and is now rated as extremely doubtful to make the game.

    "Tim probably won't make it for the weekend," said coach Thomas Schaaf afterwards. However, Bremen skipper Frank Baumann is likely to return while Bayern look set to be at full strength once Willy Sagnol shakes off a slight knock.

    Both clubs have 13 points from their first seven league games, and both experienced good wins in Champions' League action this week.
     

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    The top-of-the-table clash at the Weserstadion is eagerly anticipated, but the German international midfielder sat out training once more on Thursday and is now rated as extremely doubtful to make the game.

    "Tim probably won't make it for the weekend," said coach Thomas Schaaf afterwards. However, Bremen skipper Frank Baumann is likely to return while Bayern look set to be at full strength once Willy Sagnol shakes off a slight knock.

    Both clubs have 13 points from their first seven league games, and both experienced good wins in Champions' League action this week.

    When and where is the game Werder Vs Bayern?!
     

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    According to Uli, He knows whats Hamburg's problem
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    One of the things Jürgen Klinsmann taught the football nation this summer was that a scientific approach to the game, long frowned upon by traditionalists, may not be such a bad idea after all.


    Whenever you see a member of the coaching staff in the behind-the-scenes documentary that opened in our cinemas early this month, a laptop is nearby. And when the Californian fitness nerds Klinsmann brought in explain what they are doing, they tend to use an impressive amount of Latin terms.

    But competitive sport is also the sanctuary of spiritualists. Players are, almost without exception, superstituous and dread any change to their tried and tested match routine.

    The fans are probably worse. A friend of mine used to take a bath every Saturday afternoon because his team, Cologne, had once come from behind to win while he was lying in the bathtub, listening to the game on the radio. In 'Fever Pitch', Nick Hornby mentions that he asked a friend to put on a Buzzcocks LP whenever Arsenal were playing. (When the Gunners lost despite this precaution, Hornby didn't question the ritual but suspected his friend had forgotten about his orders.)

    And if I should die of lung cancer, feel free to blame it on too many lucky fags, smoked to will Dortmund into scoring.

    Of course this is all rubbish. Right? Hmm. Those of you who have seen Hamburg's Champions League tie with Porto on Tuesday may beg to differ. I mean, yes, the Portugese won deservedly and, yes, there was a lucky moment for Hamburg when Nigel de Jong went berserk in his own box only for the referee to book the maimed Porto player for play acting.

    But by and large this night was a prime example for what kind of game football can be when you're jinxed. Last campaign Hamburg were the success story of the Bundesliga, this season they are still winless - not to mention that they, statistically, have a man sent off every second game.

    And of course the sky blackened and a thunderstorm broke loose the moment they set foot on the pitch in Porto. During the first quarter of an hour, things were so bad that only a black screen appeared whenever German television attempted to make contact with Hamburg's game. How fitting.

    Then Collin Benjamin nicely set up the opponent's first goal with an inexplicable backpass. This was followed by the referee robbing Danijel Ljuboja of a perfectly legal equaliser.

    Finally, in the waning moments of the first half, Ljuboja went up for a harmless cross in Hamburg's penalty area and suddenly got it into his head it would be a nice idea to simply knock the ball away with his hand. As soon as his feet touched the ground again, he covered his head with his hands, realising what he had done - withouth having the faintest notion why. Oh, and the Porto goal that finally sealed matters for good, Helder Postiga's 3-0, should have been called offside but of course wasn't.

    Whenever I see such games, or more precisely: such teams, I have to think back to the 1990-91 season. When the Bundesliga went into the winter break, Dortmund were in a very decent sixth place and everything was just dandy. We had won the derby with Bochum, we had beaten title-holders Bayern Munich at their own ground and the last game before the nine-week lay-off had resulted in an away win at St Pauli. Christmas was very nice, as you can imagine.

    And then it all collapsed. In the first eleven minutes of the first game after the winter break, Dortmund conceded three goals in Stuttgart. The final result was 7-0. From that day on, we just couldn't win. Even two-goal leads against last-place Hertha and Bochum weren't enough.

    This went on for more than three months, and while the club officials did all the usual things - saying 'We just have to work harder', assuring everybody that things would turn out well, shuffling the line-up, coming up with psychological tricks to bring back self-belief - the fans realised quickly what was going on: Dortmund were jinxed.

    Now, it's become my conviction, after thirty years of watching and covering football, that such jinxes do exist and that there is nothing, absolutely nothing you can do about them. You may train until the sun goes down - or you may tell the players to stay at home and get their minds off football; it makes no difference.


    You can call up youngsters from the reserve team or give your established starters a vote of confidence by sticking with them; it makes no difference. Sign the World Footballer of the Year or go back to wearing last year's kit; it makes no difference.

    Your only hope is that there will come a day when you play a team that is also jinxed. Which is why, back in 1991, I started brooding over the schedule as early as mid-April, when it had become abundantly clear we were indeed cursed. The only chance, as far as I could see, was the May 31 encounter with Uerdingen, who were mired in the drop zone. Until then, we could only grin and bear it.

    Guess what? That's exactly what happened. We went into that game winless since December, while Uerdingen were four points off the pace in their fight against relegation. It was a predictably awful match. Seconds before the break, Uerdingen were awarded a penalty, but their jinx was so strong that our goalkeeper managed to save the shot.

    And five minutes from time, we somehow found the net - and that was enough to win 1-0. Needless to say, we then won the very next match as well, away at Leverkusen, and also the final game of the season.

    I admit this will be little solace for Hamburg's supporters. But maybe it helps to take away a bit of the despair they must feel, because once you resign yourself to the fact you are in the hands of a higher force, breathing becomes a bit easier.

    And a cursory glance at the Bundesliga schedule has me presume November 11 could be the day of the turnaround. That's when Hamburg host Gladbach. Whose fans readily admit their team is cursed whenever it plays away from home.

    I would be glad to read this text and find out whats the problem with HSV, but its too freakin long! Can you just leave the important part and delete the rest of the text?:D
     
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    Hamburg's woes have increased with the news Dutch star Nigel de Jong will be sidelined for at least a month due to a knee problem.

    The northern club are languishing in the relegation spots in Die Bundesliga and were thrashed by Porto in the UEFA Champions League in midweek.

    They travelled to Iberia with a lengthy injury list and this has been added to by De Jong who damaged his knee against Porto.

    De Jong is due to undergo surgery in Amsterdam and is likely to be out of action until the end of November.

    Raphael Wicky was also injured in Porto and coach Thomas Doll said: "This is of course bitter for us but we will manage.
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    the misery continues....
     
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    When and where is the game Werder Vs Bayern?!
    it will be this weekend, and in the Westasadion...So it will be an interesting game.

    abt the article.
    he basically said that he thinks that Hamburg have a "jinx" on them.They are cursed as they have so much problems, injuries,disallowed goals(unrightfully), team problems....

    same happend to Dortmund a while ago as they had to beat another "jinxed" team, so the curse would lift off.
     

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    it will be this weekend, and in the Westasadion...So it will be an interesting game.

    abt the article.
    he basically said that he thinks that Hamburg have a "jinx" on them.They are cursed as they have so much problems, injuries,disallowed goals(unrightfully), team problems....

    same happend to Dortmund a while ago as they had to beat another "jinxed" team, so the curse would lift off.

    It will be a hard game for Bayern as I think Werders style of play doesnt suite Bayern.

    In last 2 or 3 games Vs Bayern Werder came out as a winner, and deservedly.
     

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    Hamburg's woes have increased with the news Dutch star Nigel de Jong will be sidelined for at least a month due to a knee problem.

    The northern club are languishing in the relegation spots in Die Bundesliga and were thrashed by Porto in the UEFA Champions League in midweek.

    They travelled to Iberia with a lengthy injury list and this has been added to by De Jong who damaged his knee against Porto.

    De Jong is due to undergo surgery in Amsterdam and is likely to be out of action until the end of November.

    Raphael Wicky was also injured in Porto and coach Thomas Doll said: "This is of course bitter for us but we will manage.
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    the misery continues....
    Damn, I feel so sorry for them as they have a good team, if they have kept Boulahrouz or Van Buyten and if Van der Vaart was healthy and if there was more luck, they would have been very entertaining.

    They gave Bayern and Werder a headache last season...
     
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    yeah its a real shame, had high hopes for them this season.But i guess the manager and management didnt think of the short run and focused on the future.

    abt the bremen-bayern game, well its very interesting as it is between the two big teams at the moment and in recent years.
    Bayern need a big game if they want to get anything from this explosive Bremen team. The backline needs a big game same as the defensive players in the midfield.
     

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    3:1

    Victory!!!
    No clean sheet, but a great performance. If Carlos Dunga ever needs a good attacker, he can count on Lucio (he scored the 3rd goal for Werder).
    NALDO FOR SELECAO !!!
     
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    Alltagsheld said:
    3:1

    Victory!!!
    No clean sheet, but a great performance. If Carlos Dunga ever needs a good attacker, he can count on Lucio (he scored the 3rd goal for Werder).
    NALDO FOR SELECAO !!!
    congrats :tup:
    i always enjoy seeing Bayern lose :D

    how did the Bremen defense and especially Merterascker do ?
     

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    how did the Bremen defense and especially Merterascker do ?
    Sometimes the defense looked a bit confused, especially when Makaay scored.
    But it wasn't not the fault of the two centrals Mertesacker and Naldo. Team captain Frank Baumann slipped away and the way for Makaay was free. The defense was, like every other part of the team, very good.

    Willy Sagnol from Bayern came out to be a bad loser. In an interview after the game he talked about a scandal and an inacceptable performance by referee Herbert Fandel, a view nobody could understand.

    Werder dominated most of the game, had more chances and scored again a very beautiful goal. It was the 1-0 by, guess who, Diego.
     
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    Alltagsheld said:
    Sometimes the defense looked a bit confused, especially when Makaay scored.
    But it wasn't not the fault of the two centrals Mertesacker and Naldo. Team captain Frank Baumann slipped away and the way for Makaay was free. The defense was, like every other part of the team, very good.

    Willy Sagnol from Bayern came out to be a bad loser. In an interview after the game he talked about a scandal and an inacceptable performance by referee Herbert Fandel, a view nobody could understand.

    Werder dominated most of the game, had more chances and scored again a very beautiful goal. It was the 1-0 by, guess who, Diego.
    well thats good to know.

    and about Sagnol, they r always sour losers. And even some fans on another forum have the same mentality, whining after losing to the better team.

    But please, don't count on me being objective. I'm just too excited.
    :D dont worry about it.
     

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