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Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
Kids have schoolbooks from the 1980s, you can't consistently get 4G in the middle of a city, also can't walk without seeing old people searching for plastic bottles in trash, failed health and care policy, country is leaking its know-how due to emigration of innovators and trained professionals, slowly falling behind the competition and fading into obscurity. That's without even touching upon the multiple sensitive talking points...............but she took in a bunch of your cousins so obviously THE GREATEST LEADER IN THE WORLD MASHALLAH!!!!!!!!!!!

:lol:
I consider them more like brothers than cousins tbh. To me all those borders between Arab countries never made sense.

That being said, Erdogan also took in a huge number of migrants. While I commend both governments for such a humanitarian act, i dont think that defines you as a leader. Erdogan is turning Turkey into almost completely autocratic regime.

So taking in migrants is not even close to the top reasons i said Europe and the world will miss Merkel. But we are in a time where China and Russia are rising, and right wing populists all over Europe are trying to destroy democratic, liberal institutions and values. Merkel's role in keeping the EU together, managing the multiple crises in her time, and standing up to the likes of Putin, while being grounded and reasonable is what makes me consider her one of the greatest leaders in Europe, and why the world will miss her.

Also, didnt Germany take you in as well? and you come from some commie country too.

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I'm sure the millions of migrants itching to get into europe will definitely miss her
Maybe they will. But its more important that Putin, Orban and Erdogan will not miss her.
Also, you havent answered me what the difference is between Orban and Erdogan. They have almost the same political and ideological ideals with different covers. One is Christian the other is Muslim. Other than that whats the difference between them?


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calma, I need to read on the growing tensions in Indochina in my history book for next class. Hopeflly there won't be a war :scared:

Macron is just a dishonest snake with napoleon complex and small dick energy. I'm not well enough informed on his domestic policies to discuss in depth and I only talk after accumulating expertise.

Fred is subconsciously right tho, EU and the world will miss Angie, didn't say anything about german people :snoop:
Keep hammering away that point. German people, white people, us vs them, migrants.

At the end of the day, you are a migrant from a commie country thats lucky to have been received by a liberal, democratic country. Now you want to make it more illiberal even if that means benefitting your commie cousins who you supposedly ran away from.
 
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lgorTudor

Senior Member
Jan 15, 2015
32,951
Wait a sec...

@lgorTudor ain't German but from a slavic country? :shocked:
Yes, from Yugoslavia. Moved to Germany after civil war ended and my father's direct superiors were arrested.


Also it can't be highlighted enough that Eastern European immigration within the EU does not cause many problems in the respective countries because these people aside from having school education or professional qualifications are willing to integrate into a civilized society, not undermine and eventually destroy it which is what the Middle East immigration is trying.
 
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swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
84,830
Fred is right. Arab borders are a joke. Yes, there is tribalism in the Arab world, but none of that is sanely reflected in the arbitrary borderlines drawn by outsiders as they packed up for London after getting bored with plunder and the historical lack of SPF 30 sunblock.

Merkel did well to stand up to a world of goons and criminals. And she had ballz of steel to draw a line - which she ultimately had to back away from - on the necessity of immigration.

That and the world is so up its own ass about the idea of “indigenous” or native peoples. Yes, that’s rich coming from a Murican. But unless you’re in Ethiopia, your ancestors invaded, stole land, and started the Anthropocene. Anybody who refuses to accept that truth has gone cross-eyed from cultural autofellatio — or refuses to accept that they lost a war of invasion and want to pretend we can roll back the clock and shove all of humanity back in the Serengeti.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Fred is right. Arab borders are a joke. Yes, there is tribalism in the Arab world, but none of that is sanely reflected in the arbitrary borderlines drawn by outsiders as they packed up for London after getting bored with plunder and the historical lack of SPF 30 sunblock.

Merkel did well to stand up to a world of goons and criminals. And she had ballz of steel to draw a line - which she ultimately had to back away from - on the necessity of immigration.

That and the world is so up its own ass about the idea of “indigenous” or native peoples. Yes, that’s rich coming from a Murican. But unless you’re in Ethiopia, your ancestors invaded, stole land, and started the Anthropocene. Anybody who refuses to accept that truth has gone cross-eyed from cultural autofellatio — or refuses to accept that they lost a war of invasion and want to pretend we can roll back the clock and shove all of humanity back in the Serengeti.
:agree:

We infantilize North/Central American indigenous cultures to an absurd degree. We talk about them being peaceful land defenders who lived in harmony with nature and each other, when the reality was starkly different. They were constantly at war with one another, things like slavery, ritualized cannibalism and human sacrifice existed. The Haida here were hated and feared by most other NW coast indigenous nations due to their war parties down the coast and slave raids. The Iroquois and Huron had been at war for generations before the Iroquois wiped them out entirely the moment they got access to European weapons. The Aztecs had a vast empire that was conquered by a handful of Spaniards because every indigenous group under Aztec dominion hated them and helped the Spanish wipe them out.

But I’d like to see the “First Nations” return to pre-Columbus lifestyles. No more phones, cars, guns, electricity, indoor plumbing, etc… give it all up. In exchange for some #landback Lol fat chance
 

BayernFan

Senior Member
Feb 17, 2016
7,129
Yes, from Yugoslavia. Moved to Germany after civil war ended and my father's direct superiors were arrested.


Also it can't be highlighted enough that Eastern European immigration within the EU does not cause many problems in the respective countries because these people aside from having school education or professional qualifications are willing to integrate into a civilized society, not undermine and eventually destroy it which is what the sand people are trying.
Yougoslavs in Denmark integrated very well, it seems to be the case in other European countries as well. The Poles I met in Denmark are really cool as well.

Are you Croatian descendant and do you still visit here and then? I imagine you still have family there.
 

lgorTudor

Senior Member
Jan 15, 2015
32,951
That and the world is so up its own ass about the idea of “indigenous” or native peoples. Yes, that’s rich coming from a Murican. But unless you’re in Ethiopia, your ancestors invaded, stole land, and started the Anthropocene. Anybody who refuses to accept that truth has gone cross-eyed from cultural autofellatio — or refuses to accept that they lost a war of invasion and want to pretend we can roll back the clock and shove all of humanity back in the Serengeti.
Wilfully besides the point, tho. It's not about having some claim on a land and letting no other in because you were 'first'. It's about the basic job of a government to protect your citizens interests first and everybody else's second. Pretty much everybody chooses their immigrants, even Canada. Nope, Merkel just dropped a bucket of ISIS sprinkled shit over everybody's head and now you're racist if you complain about the taste of shit. Should have seen Helmut Kohl's statements in the 80-90s. Would have called him literally Hitler and he was a pragmatic centrist. Merkel dealing with goonz? Only superficially. Factually Nord Steam 2 makes us Putin's bitch. This talk is too depressing, have a nice day and see you in EURO bread.
 
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Fab Fragment

Senior Member
Dec 22, 2018
4,200
Fred is right. Arab borders are a joke. Yes, there is tribalism in the Arab world, but none of that is sanely reflected in the arbitrary borderlines drawn by outsiders as they packed up for London after getting bored with plunder and the historical lack of SPF 30 sunblock.

Merkel did well to stand up to a world of goons and criminals. And she had ballz of steel to draw a line - which she ultimately had to back away from - on the necessity of immigration.

That and the world is so up its own ass about the idea of “indigenous” or native peoples. Yes, that’s rich coming from a Murican. But unless you’re in Ethiopia, your ancestors invaded, stole land, and started the Anthropocene. Anybody who refuses to accept that truth has gone cross-eyed from cultural autofellatio — or refuses to accept that they lost a war of invasion and want to pretend we can roll back the clock and shove all of humanity back in the Serengeti.
So true.
All these "brown people" won't be in the west if the west hadn't obliterated and plundered their countries in the name of freedom and democracy.
I have several colleagues who were doing so well in their countries until the west brought them "freedom". Recently met a pediatric cardiothoracic surgeon, who had to run for his life with his family, because the freedom bombs leveled his country. Poor guy had to retake all his exams etc to practice here.
 

Lapa

FLY, EAGLES FLY
Sep 29, 2008
20,045
Yes yes, white folks are always to blame. Keep it coming, we can take it. It's fun to see how your kind is never able to see that it's actually your own fault that you're poor and can't build a proper society.
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
84,830
:agree:

We infantilize North/Central American indigenous cultures to an absurd degree. We talk about them being peaceful land defenders who lived in harmony with nature and each other, when the reality was starkly different. They were constantly at war with one another, things like slavery, ritualized cannibalism and human sacrifice existed. The Haida here were hated and feared by most other NW coast indigenous nations due to their war parties down the coast and slave raids. The Iroquois and Huron had been at war for generations before the Iroquois wiped them out entirely the moment they got access to European weapons. The Aztecs had a vast empire that was conquered by a handful of Spaniards because every indigenous group under Aztec dominion hated them and helped the Spanish wipe them out.

But I’d like to see the “First Nations” return to pre-Columbus lifestyles. No more phones, cars, guns, electricity, indoor plumbing, etc… give it all up. In exchange for some #landback Lol fat chance
It's a harmful positive stereotype... like saying Asians are good at math. "Oh, he's Cherokee, therefore he's at one with the land and is more spiritually connected to the wonders of the universe as a peace-loving diplomat for humanity." :D The crap lies people will tell themselves to hide from reckoning with a history where invaders bent them over and told them either to take it up the rear or take an early grave. Humans are humans, after all. You can't escape that with labels.

Wilfully besides the point, tho. It's not about having some claim on a land and letting no other in because you were 'first'. It's about the basic job of a government to protect your citizens interests first and everybody else's second. Pretty much everybody chooses their immigrants, even Canada. Nope, Merkel just dropped a bucket of ISIS sprinkled shit over everybody's head and now you're racist if you complain about the taste of shit. Should have seen Helmut Kohl's statements in the 80-90s. Would have called him literally Hitler and he was a pragmatic centrist. Merkel dealing with goonz? Only superficially. Factually Nord Steam 2 makes us Putin's bitch. This talk is too depressing, have a nice day and see you in EURO bread.
Nations matter less and less today. City states are probably making something of a comeback. And the whole idea of border enforcement is a modern construct. Passport standardization for global travelers didn't take place until the 1980s.
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,560
So true.
All these "brown people" won't be in the west if the west hadn't obliterated and plundered their countries in the name of freedom and democracy.
I have several colleagues who were doing so well in their countries until the west brought them "freedom". Recently met a pediatric cardiothoracic surgeon, who had to run for his life with his family, because the freedom bombs leveled his country. Poor guy had to retake all his exams etc to practice here.
you have a good point, USA going to the Middle East did cause a lot of destruction and extremism. You look at Iran from the 50s for example and they look like a fun progressive place to live.

but at what point is it also their fault for letting this happen in the first place?
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
31,868
Kids have schoolbooks from the 1980s, you can't consistently get 4G in the middle of a city, also can't walk without seeing old people searching for plastic bottles in trash, failed health and care policy, country is leaking its know-how due to emigration of innovators and trained professionals, slowly falling behind the competition and fading into obscurity. That's without even touching upon the multiple sensitive talking points...............but she took in a bunch of your cousins so obviously THE GREATEST LEADER IN THE WORLD MASHALLAH!!!!!!!!!!!

:lol:
Most of these sound like here too.
 

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