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Lion

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Do you think I have the keys on my keyboard needed to make my name? Plus it's too hard to copy and paste constantly.

Go back and look how close the times between my posts and Sing's posts are.

Some are at the same time.

you have 2 different browsers open at once with a different user name in each. that's how you are doing it, monkey boy.
 

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X Æ A-12

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If you dont know the difference; is religion is a choice, if people choose to have faith in something that i view as morally corrupt then its their problem and i feel fine ripping into them. Race is something you have no choice over and it is completely illogical to treat someone differently due to race.
Religion isn't a choice most people are raised into it without ever getting the chance to think for themselves. But I don't expect a bigot like you to understand that.

Reading over the past few pages only makes me think you are more of a hypocrite than before.
 

Ford Prefect

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Religion isn't a choice most people are raised into it without ever getting the chance to think for themselves. But I don't expect a bigot like you to understand that.

Reading over the past few pages only makes me think you are more of a hypocrite than before.
You are calling me a bigot? I suppose to take such an agressive stance against bigotry in a sense would make me a bigot.

Religion is a choice, i was raised into a christian family, i went to three faith schools and i chose not to believe in it. I wasnt born an antitheist or a christian, it is an active choice i have made myself and everyone has that choice, whether they take it or not is up to them.

I believe in unltimate freedom of choice, you can do whatever you want or be whoever you want so long as you do not encroach on someones elses rights to do the same thing. That is why i am so aggressive towards organised religion, it goes against my fundamental ideals. Faith when it is kept oneself is a pure thing and i have nothing against that, you can believe what you choose, but as soon you try and force that on someone else, or tell someone else how to live their lives because of your beliefs that is when you cross a line, Organised religion is pure evil. The catholic faith is encouraging the spread of aids of epic proportions because they tell the poorest people in the most aids ridden countries not to wear condoms and not to protect their lives, stuff like that is morally corrupt and i wont let it slide.

I don't care if you don't agree with that or think i am hypocrite or even if you think that makes me a bigot, it is my ideology and i look at the bigger picture and a world that is free of hate, oppression and world that people can do what they want without someone telling them that what they are doing is wrong.

You most likely believe in the absurd notion of money, each and ever day.
I think i get where this misunderstanding is coming from, how about i phrase what im saying in a different way. The belief in the unseen without proof is irrational.

Money, time, the callender are all an illusion, it is something that we put a value too, to not understand that is ignorance.
 

Bjerknes

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I don't care if you don't agree with that or think i am hypocrite or even if you think that makes me a bigot, it is my ideology and i look at the bigger picture and a world that is free of hate, oppression and world that people can do what they want without someone telling them that what they are doing is wrong.
But that's not gonna fly, Jasp. You're actually participating in a form of oppression yourself. It's like me saying well, we should kill all Jews because of their treatment of Palestinians and I don't care what people think because it's my ideology.

I dislike religion, too. But if folks want to listen to what the bloody Pope says, I can't stop them in doing that. It's on them.
 

X Æ A-12

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You are calling me a bigot? I suppose to take such an agressive stance against bigotry in a sense would make me a bigot.

Religion is a choice, i was raised into a christian family, i went to three faith schools and i chose not to believe in it. I wasnt born an antitheist or a christian, it is an active choice i have made myself and everyone has that choice, whether they take it or not is up to them.

I believe in unltimate freedom of choice, you can do whatever you want or be whoever you want so long as you do not encroach on someones elses rights to do the same thing. That is why i am so aggressive towards organised religion, it goes against my fundamental ideals. Faith when it is kept oneself is a pure thing and i have nothing against that, you can believe what you choose, but as soon you try and force that on someone else, or tell someone else how to live their lives because of your beliefs that is when you cross a line, Organised religion is pure evil. The catholic faith is encouraging the spread of aids of epic proportions because they tell the poorest people in the most aids ridden countries not to wear condoms and not to protect their lives, stuff like that is morally corrupt and i wont let it slide.

I don't care if you don't agree with that or think i am hypocrite or even if you think that makes me a bigot, it is my ideology and i look at the bigger picture and a world that is free of hate, oppression and world that people can do what they want without someone telling them that what they are doing is wrong.
I agree that religion is stupid and false but I don't have a problem with people who practice it as long as they don't try to push their ideals on me. I would consider myself an Atheist but I find overly anti-religious people can sometimes be just as annoying as the overly religious ones. Even though they don't believe in the same ridiculous stories they can be just as pushy and intolerant. Seriously demanding that "under god" be taken out of the U.S. pledge allegiance was stupid.

I don't care if you hate religion but as long as you remain intolerant of other peoples ideas stop getting on my case about black jokes, because you come across as a much more intolerant person than myself.

And just because you left religion doesn't mean everybody else has the same choice you did.
 
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I agree that religion is stupid and false but I don't have a problem with people who practice it as long as they don't try to push their ideals on me. I would consider myself an Atheist but I find overly anti-religious people can sometimes be just as annoying as the overly religious ones. Even though they don't believe in the same ridiculous stories they can be just as pushy and intolerant. Seriously demanding that "under god" be taken out of the U.S. pledge allegiance was stupid.

I don't care if you hate religion but as long as you remain intolerant of other peoples ideas stop getting on my case about black jokes, because you come across as a much more intolerant person than myself.

And just because you left religion doesn't mean everybody else has the same choice you did.
you said it bro
 

Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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I agree that religion is stupid and false but I don't have a problem with people who practice it as long as they don't try to push their ideals on me. I would consider myself an Atheist but I find overly anti-religious people can sometimes be just as annoying as the overly religious ones. Even though they don't believe in the same ridiculous stories they can be just as pushy and intolerant. Seriously demanding that "under god" be taken out of the U.S. pledge allegiance was stupid.

I don't care if you hate religion but as long as you remain intolerant of other peoples ideas stop getting on my case about black jokes, because you come across as a much more intolerant person than myself.

And just because you left religion doesn't mean everybody else has the same choice you did.
why? why should secular people hold their noses while they have to say something like this? the whole pledge of allegiance being recited in schools is Stalinist enough, but since it is mandatory, at least you should expect the text to be sensible to whom has to recite it
 
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there is certain things that are part of history, part of tradition, part of "we do it because we always done it" that really have no bearing on today's events. the effort isn't worth it, really.
 

Martin

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there is certain things that are part of history, part of tradition, part of "we do it because we always done it" that really have no bearing on today's events. the effort isn't worth it, really.
but all these little customs shape the big picture. in the end they inform us of what kind of people we are.
 

X Æ A-12

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Its not mandatory in fact I think its prohibited now in public schools because of those idiots who complained about it. And even when we were saying it, it was always optional in my classes.

The pledge is the pledge, why change it because somebody with a stick up their ass feels they have to ruin it for everybody else because it "offends" them.

I have never been religious and it doesn't bother me to mention god in the only 30 seconds I take out of my day to show some respect to my country.
 

Martin

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Its not mandatory in fact I think its prohibited now in public schools because of those idiots who complained about it. And even when we were saying it, it was always optional in my classes.

The pledge is the pledge, why change it because somebody with a stick up their ass feels they have to ruin it for everybody else because it "offends" them.

I have never been religious and it doesn't bother me to mention god in the only 30 seconds I take out of my day to show some respect to my country.
It doesn't have to offend anyone to form an argument as to why it should be changed/killed. There are plenty of things that don't offend me that I still want to change in the world, because the status quo makes no sense and is based on premises that no longer hold.

And "it is the way it is because it is" is not a convincing argument to me.

I don't know what this pledge thing is all about, but it sounds very dictatorship kind of thing.
 

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I don't know what this pledge thing is all about, but it sounds very dictatorship kind of thing.
But the pledge isn't about showing your loyalty to the government and to its current administration. To me it has always been a sign of respect to our fore fathers and the ideals that America was founded on which have become lost under atrocious government and corrupt political parties.

I hate the politicians but I can still love my country. I don't think anybody should be forced to say it if they don't want to.

Now that I think of it since it got dropped from schools the only time I say it is when I go to baseball games.
 

Martin

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But the pledge isn't about showing your loyalty to the government and to its current administration. To me it has always been a sign of respect to our fore fathers and the ideals that America was founded on which have become lost under atrocious government and corrupt political parties.

I hate the politicians but I can still love my country. I don't think anybody should be forced to say it if they don't want to.

Now that I think of it since it got dropped from schools the only time I say it is when I go to baseball games.
So what is it that you're really "praying" to? An old government? A philosophy?
 
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