Social science interpretting the statistician results, yes on that note I agree. The whole idea of expermenting though would lead one to believe your on about some scientists in a lab coat or something.
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One of the most interesting things I've learned about AIDS was how much it was a disease that attacked a country's social mores more than anything else. Countries like Uganda that quickly cut through social hang-ups to discuss and address things openly did a surprisingly amazing job keeping a lot of people, gay and straight, from being killed.
Countries that kept it in the closet with too many social taboos and hang-ups, like South Africa, had it ravage their population and economies.
This was a case where people literally died -- gay and straight -- as a result of their society's sexual hang-ups.
Countries that kept it in the closet with too many social taboos and hang-ups, like South Africa, had it ravage their population and economies.
This was a case where people literally died -- gay and straight -- as a result of their society's sexual hang-ups.
But they, as a matter of policy, overcame that. They -- a poor central African country -- figured out that their social mores and sexual hangups were going to be a cause for their society to ultimately kill themselves if they left it that way.
The point here being that this is a case where a society that wished to remain in the closet and in ignorance that homosexuality existed among their population risked a higher incidence of death because of it. You could be as straight as an arrow, but your sexual partners could transmit it and the disease basically preys upon societies that live in denial and cover-up. Social acknowledgement can be a factor in personal life or death.
The point here being that this is a case where a society that wished to remain in the closet and in ignorance that homosexuality existed among their population risked a higher incidence of death because of it. You could be as straight as an arrow, but your sexual partners could transmit it and the disease basically preys upon societies that live in denial and cover-up. Social acknowledgement can be a factor in personal life or death.
Not with you or a few others per se. But several pages back, that was absolutely the case with some members.
Aaron made an interesting point that bringing up this subject was like adding gasoline to fire in societies where the topic of homosexuality is taboo. Dusan and I got into a debate because the last evil he needed to see on this earth was two guys together with a stroller in his country.
What makes AIDS an interesting case to me is that it's a biological vector that seems optimized to prey on "closed" societies. It's like Darwinism on a social/cultural level rather than at a species level... i.e., is a society with social hang-ups and taboos about some realities of society, such as homosexuality, more prone to its own extinction as a result of its collective social mores?
It's a legitimate, and I think fascinating, question.
Aaron made an interesting point that bringing up this subject was like adding gasoline to fire in societies where the topic of homosexuality is taboo. Dusan and I got into a debate because the last evil he needed to see on this earth was two guys together with a stroller in his country.
What makes AIDS an interesting case to me is that it's a biological vector that seems optimized to prey on "closed" societies. It's like Darwinism on a social/cultural level rather than at a species level... i.e., is a society with social hang-ups and taboos about some realities of society, such as homosexuality, more prone to its own extinction as a result of its collective social mores?
It's a legitimate, and I think fascinating, question.
It's also a bit of a chilling, almost science-fiction-like concept. Because it suggests governments could develop biological weapons that are optimized to take out populations based on their cultural mores and belief systems.
To get extra diabolical, in a case like much of Europe where they're struggling with multiculturalism, it means a government could potentially even target distinct social groups within national borders.
To get extra diabolical, in a case like much of Europe where they're struggling with multiculturalism, it means a government could potentially even target distinct social groups within national borders.