Galatasaray - Juventus (3 Viewers)

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
#42
++ [ originally posted by UltraKenan ] ++
Guys here is the problem. You guys think ur country's team suck and that why u support Juve? Hollyyyy Molyyyyy. For example: If Italian army is stronger than Polish army and they happen to try to invade or take away something Poland will u cheer for Italian Army or Poland army? This divides Turks. Even if Galatasaray cant win a single game in 1 billion years still we will unconditionally support it. I know this is an entertainment but it is VERY EASY to PICK A STRONG team. Where is the challenge? Its like me picking Real Madrid now that Beckham is there. I dont know but do u guys see the point just a bit? please let me know and i know that everyone is free to choose whatever they like and everybody is different.
Dont mix those political army things,, because its totally different (soccer = entertaining , armies = war and suffering). Very bad example, starting for that point.


And about your point, that goes with the likes of everyone. For you its a must to support the pride of your country against Juve, but me, i don have any NT playing in the champions league, and i don like so much the teams here. So, why cant i chose Juve?
I like their style, and their politic, things that i hate of champions like real madrid.
 

Zlatan

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2003
23,049
#44
++ [ originally posted by UltraKenan ] ++
Guys here is the problem. You guys think ur country's team suck and that why u support Juve? Hollyyyy Molyyyyy. For example: If Italian army is stronger than Polish army and they happen to try to invade or take away something Poland will u cheer for Italian Army or Poland army? This divides Turks. Even if Galatasaray cant win a single game in 1 billion years still we will unconditionally support it. I know this is an entertainment but it is VERY EASY to PICK A STRONG team. Where is the challenge? Its like me picking Real Madrid now that Beckham is there. I dont know but do u guys see the point just a bit? please let me know and i know that everyone is free to choose whatever they like and everybody is different.
I dont think you have a valid point. Firstly, you cant possibly compare football and football teams to war and armies. Secondly, it is pretty easy to pick a strong team, but why should picking a team be hard? Do we need another "challenge" in the trivial matter of football, when we have the challenge of life itself constantly going on. Thirdly, supporting a local team is not equal to patriotism. Profesionall teams do not consist of players of one nationality, and if you want to show your patriotism through football, the only way to do it is to support the NT, where the players play for the countrly with their hearts and souls, not for money.
 

JuveCampione

Senior Member
Sep 21, 2002
4,134
#46
++ [ originally posted by UltraKenan ] ++
Guys here is the problem. You guys think ur country's team suck and that why u support Juve? Hollyyyy Molyyyyy. For example: If Italian army is stronger than Polish army and they happen to try to invade or take away something Poland will u cheer for Italian Army or Poland army? This divides Turks. Even if Galatasaray cant win a single game in 1 billion years still we will unconditionally support it. I know this is an entertainment but it is VERY EASY to PICK A STRONG team. Where is the challenge? Its like me picking Real Madrid now that Beckham is there. I dont know but do u guys see the point just a bit? please let me know and i know that everyone is free to choose whatever they like and everybody is different.
once you starting supporting a club (real supporting), you can't go back, even if the team is from a different county

so what if it's a big team? it's a bigger attraction.
 

nedved34

Senior Member
Oct 3, 2002
3,919
#47
++ [ originally posted by Red Army ] ++
by the way i have word for our fener guy:

amina kodumun cocugu sen gitte real mardinin forumuna yaz kopek


thank u guys :D
that was a very dirty.if it was in english you would be banned now for sure
 

Red Army

New Member
Aug 28, 2003
16
#48
hey snoop you know turkish than...nice :D keep this information to yourself :D


BTW Galatasaray have signed Racing Santander`s Javi Guerrero according to Spanish newspapers.
 

gray

Senior Member
Moderator
Apr 22, 2003
30,260
#49
++ [ originally posted by UltraKenan ] ++
Guys here is the problem. You guys think ur country's team suck and that why u support Juve? Hollyyyy Molyyyyy. For example: If Italian army is stronger than Polish army and they happen to try to invade or take away something Poland will u cheer for Italian Army or Poland army? This divides Turks. Even if Galatasaray cant win a single game in 1 billion years still we will unconditionally support it. I know this is an entertainment but it is VERY EASY to PICK A STRONG team. Where is the challenge? Its like me picking Real Madrid now that Beckham is there. I dont know but do u guys see the point just a bit? please let me know and i know that everyone is free to choose whatever they like and everybody is different.
Welcome to the forums Kenan.

Okay, I think everyone's point's a bit different. I know what you mean by your example, but I think this is a bit different from armies :D Again, this is entertainment. Sure, Turkey has a decent football culture, and people in the country are passionate about the game, and there's a deep rivalry between two teams with great histories. This is different from the situation in a lot of countries, including my own. In Australia, the most popular sports are rugby and cricket, and that's why the standard of the game is so low... nobody gives a $#!^ about football in this country... heck, we even have a different name for the game over here (soccer). It's easy to support a team when half the people in the city support that team, and you can have a go at your friends after your team beats theirs, but that's just not a possibility where I live.

I can't go over to my friends and say "HAHA, SYDNEY OLYMPIC BEAT PERTH GLORY", because nobody gives a damn about the league. The situation's so bad that 'professional' players hardly get paid, their income from being a footballer isn't enough to live on, so they have to run fish and chip shops on the side. Now this is hardly the ideal sort of culture in which to support your local team.

And I think many of us (including myself) don't support Juventus because they get easy results. I personally started supporting this team because I watched them play, back when I had cable TV, and I liked how they played, but you can hardly call me a glory-hunting bandwagon rider, because that was in the season we came 6th, and subsequently, I didn't even know that they were the best team in Italy, and I knew nothing about their previous titles and great footballing history. Now if I wanted to support a popular side that I could actually watch easily, I would've chosen Moneyche$ter United or the Gooners, because the English PL gets good coverage over here, whereas the only time I get to see Juventus is if I follow their live scores online at 4 in the morning, which I do.

I think I rambled on a bit there, but the point is that not all supporters of major teams just choose that team because they're succesful, but they just feel that they're going for that team. If you watch any sport, you subconsciously find yourselves willing a certain team to win, and if you see that team enough, you eventually start wanting to know more and you follow their progress, which is what happened with me. If I asked 50 Australians, I wouldn't bet a single dollar that one of them knows what the heck Juventus is.

BTW guys, keep it cool, take it easy and please keep the swearing to a minimum, even if it's in another language. :cool:
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
#50
The situation in you country is exactly the same here. But the difference is that here, we are a very soccer pasionate country. Jejej its very ironical, because here we know our players, and all the leagues in the world, but our goverment doent support soccer here, and the few players that go outside, is with contacts and his own effort.

I hope that this situation be solved in the future.

About Juve, i started to watch juve games because zinedine zidane, and not for the team itself. I really dont cared about juve, but anyways, saw al ther games. With the time, i started to like the team, and when zidane went to madrid, i decided to stay wiht Juve, although my fav player was in another team.
 

gray

Senior Member
Moderator
Apr 22, 2003
30,260
#57
++ [ originally posted by GencFB19 ] ++
Somebody have a news about Overmars? Spanish AS news says that Overmars goes to Fenerbahce tomorrow but I don't believe.
Ooh no offense, Turkish footy / Fener fans... but I think Overmars deserves better than that... he's been so great over the years, and and his pace can still be deadly in a 'major European team' (sorry if this belongs in the controversy thread)
 

KeNgO

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2002
507
#58
I have seen alot of galatasaray! and i have been to Ali Sami, this year i am planning to travel to turkey to watch the juve gala game!!! it is a shame it won't be at ali sami coz that stadium is really amazing!!! the atmosphere is great!!! i remember when i went there to watch the Gala - Barca game last year which ended 2-0 for barca! i started the game cheering for barca as i like the team, but midway through the game i started cheering for gala because of the amazing atmosphere and the great loyalty gala fans have for their club!!! i sure do hope we can take all 3 points back from turkey but i don't think it would be an easy task specially considering our away form!
 

IceBlu

Senior Member
Aug 26, 2003
1,364
#60
Juve are going to win both home and away.

They just have too much class for Gala. the away game could be a little more tricky but since its not going to be played at the Ali Sami Yen, it could be slightly easier.

I cannot wait for the CL to get underway !!!
 

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