Gaetano D'Agostino (29 Viewers)
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Whats with you all? I want you to talk shit about D'Agostino so I can have the pleasure to see you eat humble pie when he shows himself to be a real good player, very creative passer, if we cant get Pirlo, we get the 2nd best there is in Italy, will be very nice having him and Diego in midfield, when we are used to extreme lack of passing from our midfield.
Btw, you guys are bit too sure on him benching Camo, dont see why you assume that, Camo works in a 4-3-1-2, he isnt a liability, so when healthy, he has his spot, and has to perform to keep it. And D'Agostino will fight for it like any other player, its that simple.
Btw, you guys are bit too sure on him benching Camo, dont see why you assume that, Camo works in a 4-3-1-2, he isnt a liability, so when healthy, he has his spot, and has to perform to keep it. And D'Agostino will fight for it like any other player, its that simple.
D'Agostino is pretty good, perhaps his stats make him look better than he ought to be, but I'd certainly take him for a good price. The more decent ball handlers and passers in the team, the better as far as I'm concerned. He scores a decent number of goals as well, something we have been lacking BIG TIME in midfield considering Chiellini had the same amount of goals as Nedved last year. Diego in the front, D'Ago behind him, sounds good.
Scrap the straight 4-4-2.
Scrap the straight 4-4-2.
What do you mean?
Of course Sissoko should be related to other transfers. He was a player that "wasn't needed" in Juve because we had enough CMs already, unlike Tiago who was needed because we didn't have CMs.
Sissoko wasn't "good enough" while Tiago was "very good player, with experience in CL with Chelsea and Lyon".
Sissoko "wasn't needed because we had enough DMs and we shouldn't collect DMs when we need a good passer". Tiago was needed because we didn't have CMs and he was "proven to be a good passer".
Of course Sissoko should be related to other transfers. He was a player that "wasn't needed" in Juve because we had enough CMs already, unlike Tiago who was needed because we didn't have CMs.
Sissoko wasn't "good enough" while Tiago was "very good player, with experience in CL with Chelsea and Lyon".
Sissoko "wasn't needed because we had enough DMs and we shouldn't collect DMs when we need a good passer". Tiago was needed because we didn't have CMs and he was "proven to be a good passer".
i still prefer inler or hamsik and i think that both of them have more quality than d'agostino...
there are some rummors that hamsik wants to leave napoli cause of their bad position this year. he wants to play in CL. if this is true we should try signing him. i don't trust d'agostino so much. i think (hope not but have a feeling) that he will be a second almiron...
there are some rummors that hamsik wants to leave napoli cause of their bad position this year. he wants to play in CL. if this is true we should try signing him. i don't trust d'agostino so much. i think (hope not but have a feeling) that he will be a second almiron...
Q asked..
Back then we had some decent defensive coverage in the midfield, CZ was efficient and Nocerino was solid defensively. Where we suffered the most was in our weak defense and our creativity. These were our priorities back then.
CR was using Noce as AMF/MR if you remember.
Camo was absent, Giovinco too, Marchionni and Neddy were not as effective offensively and we had to rely on Molinaro's crosses...
We should rather invest into defenders or a new RM then, that was our priority.
We got Sissoko, instead, who apparently had more potential than Nocerino.
We have at least made a step forward quality/potential wise.
I dont think that Dagostino is quite the step forward because i believe in Marchisio and i would not like to see him following the road of Nocerino...
I believe in his potential and i dont think that Dagostino has the potential Sissoko has!
He was always overrated just because he was Italian and he has just shown one good season now! Thats the worst moment to buy him!
Chances to overpay for him are the highest!
Besides we have now far too many squad players... and we should start off loading them first! If we made enough cash for them, then i am in!
Now, we have enough good passers and our creativity problems belong to the past.
We have hired a specialist for this job and thats DIEGO!! We didnt have smth like that then!!
Most definitly, this issue has been efficiently covered!! But the other one??
We also have Camo, Poulsen and CZ who are also decent passers, Marchisio is improving by the day, he has good tactical awareness and i believe he can become as good as CZ, at least!
Giovinco can also play that role and Tiago if he stays.
But now CZ is not as effective as he once where defensively and Noce is no more.
As we have seen by the end of the season, Sissoko's stamina and strength, are very important for our defensive coverage. No other current DM/CM can help us with that!
We have now fixed our passing issues and without him, we start lacking in our defensive issues. I believe that Camo, Poulsen, CZ, Camo and Tiago can be closer to Dagostino's passing efficiency than, Camo, Poulsen, Marchisio and CZ and Tiago's defensive efficiency, is close to Sissoko's level.
They cant defend like Sissoko, neither Dagostino, but they can pass almost as good as Dagostino.
And considering that ahead of him, we will be using a pro passer and a far more creative CF. You can easily see where our future need/priority lies, knowing that our defense wasnt upgraded, not even a bit...yet...
We had two issues, one was adressed and the other was magnified, due to the lack of less defensive wise players. Do the math and see our stats/matches. We rarely had issues to create/score goals, but we have always had issues with defending without Sissoko.
Lets say we are going to need 2 CM who can pass and one hardcore DM.
Camo, Marchisio, Poulsen, Tiago and CZ can all play the role of the CM,
but none of them can be the DM beast, Sissoko is. They can all be replaced, all but Sissoko, regarding their role. As we have seen this year...
Therefore i would prefer a new extra solid DM, instead of someone like Dagostino! If i had to choose between the two of them.
I would choose someone who can defend better than Poulsen, not someone who could pass as good as him, Camo, CZ and Tiago!
Our creative issues, was an issue, mostly because of our wings, not because of Poulsen, Tiago, Marchisio and CZ. Now their defensive role would be stressed due to the fact that Diego/Giovinco can do what Dagostino can and Marchionni and Neddy couldnt!
BUT, at any case, i wouldnt prefer us to buy a new DM/CM, or forward.
We need to fix our defense first. IMO, we are bot even certain that we are going to drop our winger by next year. We might as well have to replace Marchionni before a CM/DM joins
Just because we wish to drop wingers and just because its logical to do so, it doesnt mean that our board would do so.
That wouldnt be the first time they are acting... unwise...
This is not the time to waste more funds on CMs/DMs
why are you so desperate to sign Dagostino, do you want to see Camo or Marchisio benched??
Dont you consider that Poulsen and CZ are decent coverage??
Do you trust our current, starters and subs in the defense more??
Our old creativity problem, has been probably fixed with the new formation, tactics and a specialist!
But our defensive issue persists! We need to anticipate future issues and avoid back-steps. ATM, we can be sure about our future formation and such a transfer would very unwise.
Just fix our d-line, we know for sure that we are going to use a 4 man defense. No risks there, look out for upgrades!
I dont hate Dagostino, if we decide to drop wingers, i do understand the necessity for an extra squad player CM/DM. That would be a more logical transfer Poulsen's. But i hate to see half measures and a pathetic attempt to fix all of our issues with one move!
We bought a free RB, just because it can help both at RB and CB, but he is not really good at any position.
We got a CF, than can help with our creativity issues, but we might not face in the future, if we have 2 CMs and Diego and Cassano/Giovinco besides him... But what happens when we will only need him to be prolific?
We got Poulsen, who cant defend as good as Sissoko and cant pass/create as good as Alonso.
We need to stop with the quick fixes and look ahead!
We should start building a quality team, with players that have the potential to reach WC status sometime in the future.
Poulsen, Tiago and Dagostino cant! We had enough of squad players, able to solve our momentary issues (or not)
Lets see if Marchisio can reach his potential and if Camo is really finished and then buy a proper top quality player at the 20mil price range!
No more 10-15 mil Tiagos, Poulsens, Almirons etc
Sissoko was an exception, his initial price was 20mil, he was a part of a world class team.
He had some athletic characteristics that were apparently impressive (Vieira tally) Apart for the thing, with our timing and his lame comments,
that transfer has nothing in common with Dagostino's.
Dont judge by exceptions and overlook the rule!
PS, thats a great issue, it doesnt only implicates one position, but the whole calibration of our team. I had to extensively expand my view, because this issues expands/implicates more positions/players.
Back then we had some decent defensive coverage in the midfield, CZ was efficient and Nocerino was solid defensively. Where we suffered the most was in our weak defense and our creativity. These were our priorities back then.
CR was using Noce as AMF/MR if you remember.
Camo was absent, Giovinco too, Marchionni and Neddy were not as effective offensively and we had to rely on Molinaro's crosses...
We should rather invest into defenders or a new RM then, that was our priority.
We got Sissoko, instead, who apparently had more potential than Nocerino.
We have at least made a step forward quality/potential wise.
I dont think that Dagostino is quite the step forward because i believe in Marchisio and i would not like to see him following the road of Nocerino...
I believe in his potential and i dont think that Dagostino has the potential Sissoko has!
He was always overrated just because he was Italian and he has just shown one good season now! Thats the worst moment to buy him!
Chances to overpay for him are the highest!
Besides we have now far too many squad players... and we should start off loading them first! If we made enough cash for them, then i am in!
Now, we have enough good passers and our creativity problems belong to the past.
We have hired a specialist for this job and thats DIEGO!! We didnt have smth like that then!!
Most definitly, this issue has been efficiently covered!! But the other one??
We also have Camo, Poulsen and CZ who are also decent passers, Marchisio is improving by the day, he has good tactical awareness and i believe he can become as good as CZ, at least!
Giovinco can also play that role and Tiago if he stays.
But now CZ is not as effective as he once where defensively and Noce is no more.
As we have seen by the end of the season, Sissoko's stamina and strength, are very important for our defensive coverage. No other current DM/CM can help us with that!
We have now fixed our passing issues and without him, we start lacking in our defensive issues. I believe that Camo, Poulsen, CZ, Camo and Tiago can be closer to Dagostino's passing efficiency than, Camo, Poulsen, Marchisio and CZ and Tiago's defensive efficiency, is close to Sissoko's level.
They cant defend like Sissoko, neither Dagostino, but they can pass almost as good as Dagostino.
And considering that ahead of him, we will be using a pro passer and a far more creative CF. You can easily see where our future need/priority lies, knowing that our defense wasnt upgraded, not even a bit...yet...
We had two issues, one was adressed and the other was magnified, due to the lack of less defensive wise players. Do the math and see our stats/matches. We rarely had issues to create/score goals, but we have always had issues with defending without Sissoko.
Lets say we are going to need 2 CM who can pass and one hardcore DM.
Camo, Marchisio, Poulsen, Tiago and CZ can all play the role of the CM,
but none of them can be the DM beast, Sissoko is. They can all be replaced, all but Sissoko, regarding their role. As we have seen this year...
Therefore i would prefer a new extra solid DM, instead of someone like Dagostino! If i had to choose between the two of them.
I would choose someone who can defend better than Poulsen, not someone who could pass as good as him, Camo, CZ and Tiago!
Our creative issues, was an issue, mostly because of our wings, not because of Poulsen, Tiago, Marchisio and CZ. Now their defensive role would be stressed due to the fact that Diego/Giovinco can do what Dagostino can and Marchionni and Neddy couldnt!
Alen, good you pointed that out, because one of Cronios recent posts about being against D'Agostino, he said we dont need a CM, a passer, but need a back up DM to Momo 
We need to fix our defense first. IMO, we are bot even certain that we are going to drop our winger by next year. We might as well have to replace Marchionni before a CM/DM joins
Just because we wish to drop wingers and just because its logical to do so, it doesnt mean that our board would do so.
That wouldnt be the first time they are acting... unwise...
This is not the time to waste more funds on CMs/DMs
why are you so desperate to sign Dagostino, do you want to see Camo or Marchisio benched??
Dont you consider that Poulsen and CZ are decent coverage??
Do you trust our current, starters and subs in the defense more??
Our old creativity problem, has been probably fixed with the new formation, tactics and a specialist!
But our defensive issue persists! We need to anticipate future issues and avoid back-steps. ATM, we can be sure about our future formation and such a transfer would very unwise.
Just fix our d-line, we know for sure that we are going to use a 4 man defense. No risks there, look out for upgrades!
I dont hate Dagostino, if we decide to drop wingers, i do understand the necessity for an extra squad player CM/DM. That would be a more logical transfer Poulsen's. But i hate to see half measures and a pathetic attempt to fix all of our issues with one move!
We bought a free RB, just because it can help both at RB and CB, but he is not really good at any position.
We got a CF, than can help with our creativity issues, but we might not face in the future, if we have 2 CMs and Diego and Cassano/Giovinco besides him... But what happens when we will only need him to be prolific?
We got Poulsen, who cant defend as good as Sissoko and cant pass/create as good as Alonso.
We need to stop with the quick fixes and look ahead!
We should start building a quality team, with players that have the potential to reach WC status sometime in the future.
Poulsen, Tiago and Dagostino cant! We had enough of squad players, able to solve our momentary issues (or not)
Lets see if Marchisio can reach his potential and if Camo is really finished and then buy a proper top quality player at the 20mil price range!
No more 10-15 mil Tiagos, Poulsens, Almirons etc
Sissoko was an exception, his initial price was 20mil, he was a part of a world class team.
He had some athletic characteristics that were apparently impressive (Vieira tally) Apart for the thing, with our timing and his lame comments,
that transfer has nothing in common with Dagostino's.
Dont judge by exceptions and overlook the rule!
PS, thats a great issue, it doesnt only implicates one position, but the whole calibration of our team. I had to extensively expand my view, because this issues expands/implicates more positions/players.
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