Gökhan Inler - Central Midfielder - Udinese (8 Viewers)

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GordoDeCentral

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:D ... I am sure most players listen to their agents regarding those matters and they know better than advise them to go to Napoli and not Juve. Juve could be like this for another 10 years but they will still be one of the big names on the international scene - you can't so easily erase 100+ years of history in 5-10 years just like you can't create it in a spur of the moment either.
You guys are just too close to all this and tend to see things in desperation mode and overreact to the way things are now :)

btw, in that post, I wasn't making fun of Juve but just pointing out that the way that quote was written basically implied that money would be Inler's only reason to join Juve instead of Napoli :D
if they listen to the agent then for sure they ll go for the highest bidder, Krasic for instance for sure didnt listen to his agent. As for the history of juve, i am sorry but no one would value or cherish that like juventini would, my point was one of attraction, same way a mourinho with his winning mentality attracts competitors. We used to be that, a mournho of sort where competitors longed to be part of this, and thats not the case anymore. Realizing that is not a case of myopia because we re 'in' it, it's just a fact.
 

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acmilan

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if they listen to the agent then for sure they ll go for the highest bidder, Krasic for instance for sure didnt listen to his agent. As for the history of juve, i am sorry but no one would value or cherish that like juventini would, my point was one of attraction, same way a mourinho with his winning mentality attracts competitors. We used to be that, a mournho of sort where competitors longed to be part of this, and thats not the case anymore. Realizing that is not a case of myopia because we re 'in' it, it's just a fact.
as I said, you guys are just too close to all this ;)
none of the top teams in europe have been at the top throughout their entire history, they have all gone thru periods of highs and lows - what separates them from the rest is their ability to bounce back over and over again.
no worries, Juve will be back up again ... as I said to another member here, this is nowhere near the first bad period they have had and also won't be the last either, it's just how periodicity works :)
 

GordoDeCentral

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as I said, you guys are just too close to all this ;)
none of the top teams in europe have been at the top throughout their entire history, they have all gone thru periods of highs and lows - what separates them from the rest is their ability to bounce back over and over again.
no worries, Juve will be back up again ... as I said to another member here, this is nowhere near the first bad period they have had and also won't be the last either, it's just how periodicity works :)

too close to what? if any given player is to choose between inter and juve chances are they ll pick the former, and that has nothing to do with me or anyone else looking from the inside out
 

acmilan

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too close to what? if any given player is to choose between inter and juve chances are they ll pick the former, and that has nothing to do with me or anyone else looking from the inside out
too close to Juve in the sense that your love for the team makes you overreact in a difficult moment like this one and have a doomsday view on things altogether.

Let me ask you something - do you remember the mid and later 90s when Milan finished 10th or 11th in two consecutive season and Juve beat Milan 6-1 at the SS. How many big name players do you think would have chosen Milan over Juve based on their "prestige" in that period alone? Considering what Milan has won since then wouldn't you say they have managed to bounce back? Juve, instead were at a high back then but right now are not going thru their best moment, obviously.
But it's how the periodicity of high and lows in a club's history works - one day you are the top, the next day someone else is ... the main difference between the big clubs and the likes of Napoli, etc is that the former find a way to get back at the top, while the latter have only their memories to live with.

Juve has seen worse than this and has bounced back, and chances are years from now, they may very well see even worse again ... same goes for Milan and everybody else.
 

GordoDeCentral

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too close to Juve in the sense that your love for the team makes you overreact in a difficult moment like this one and have a doomsday view on things altogether.

Let me ask you something - do you remember the mid and later 90s when Milan finished 10th or 11th in two consecutive season and Juve beat Milan 6-1 at the SS. How many big name players do you think would have chosen Milan over Juve based on their "prestige" in that period alone? Considering what Milan has won since then wouldn't you say they have managed to bounce back? Juve, instead were at a high back then but right now are not going thru their best moment, obviously.
But it's how the periodicity of high and lows in a club's history works - one day you are the top, the next day someone else is ... the main difference between the big clubs and the likes of Napoli, etc is that the former find a way to get back at the top, while the latter have only their memories to live with.

Juve has seen worse than this and has bounced back, and chances are years from now, they may very well see even worse again ... same goes for Milan and everybody else.
i'm afraid i am not following you, where did i state anything remotely close to being qualified doomsday-sy? and sorry for the parting shot :p as this is what sets apart say a milan and Juve, this very well could be the worst patch of juve history
 

Cronios

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There is a difference between the Milan's and Inter's bounce backs though, we do not have the Emperor/media owner or an oil baron/capo di tutti capi to impose our return with political or ... other means.
We dont have any political or financial strength anymore, directors, coaches, agents and players do no know that, at least the important ones, who actually have a clue about how football is run in Europe.
Atm there are agents with more influence than us, and that really matters in the transfer market.
We also lack future prospects, as long as the Agnelli refuse to sell us. And ambitioned player, with titles in mind will avoid for us that...
 

the jesus

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There is a difference between the Milan's and Inter's bounce backs though, we do not have the Emperor/media owner or an oil baron/capo di tutti capi to impose our return with political or ... other means.
We dont have any political or financial strength anymore, directors, coaches, agents and players do no know that, at least the important ones, who actually have a clue about how football is run in Europe.
Atm there are agents with more influence than us, and that really matters in the transfer market.
We also lack future prospects, as long as the Agnelli refuse to sell us. And ambitioned player, with titles in mind will avoid for us that...
What it is you think would happen if EXOR actually decided to sell the club?

You do realise, that it is imposible to run a club like Man City, Chelsea and Inter in the future?
 

the jesus

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Exactly.

It wouldn't change anything to have an oil tycoon at the helm of the club, seeing that he couldn't use his money on new players anyway. So what's the point in changing owners?
 

Fake Melo

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Inler-Napoli tussle over sponsor

Gokhan Inler has still not completed his move to Napoli and it’s reported the sticking point is his sponsorship deal.
The Udinese midfielder has been in advanced negotiations for some time and was expected to be at the San Paolo by now after Juventus seemed to pull out of the race.

Instead, the Gazzetta dello Sport claims talks have ground to a halt over his current sponsorship deal with Nike.

They also sponsor the Switzerland team, but Napoli insist on controlling Inler’s image rights as part of the contract.

Should the midfielder not make the move to Napoli, the club would turn its attention towards another Swiss player, Blerim Dzemaili.

This involves talks with two clubs, as Dzemaili is co-owned by Parma and Torino.

Other alternatives include Wilson Palacios of Tottenham.

http://www.football-italia.net/jun18n.html
 
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