Future Coach (17 Viewers)

[xkorpyon]

Fiorentina's squad is not so good as people tend to think... When you take off Mutu, Gilardino and Frey what will you have? Montolivo, Jovetic and Vargas, but they are all players that were "adjust" by Prandelli... They play very nice football for the team they have.

I really like the job that Gasperini has done in Genoa. The only problem that i see is the 3 man defence i wouldn't like to see it again in Juve...

 

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[Cronios]

Nice list, i de be pleased if we sign any of those gents...

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

That doesn't change the fact that he should be doing better against the big 3. He always seems to mess it up in those games. At least Raineri is very good at that.

 

[xkorpyon]

If you loose all those 6 games against the big 3 and won all the other games i can almost guarantee you that we would be champions... so Ranieri is out of the equation to makes us champions...

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I don't think Prandelli would either.

 

[Lo-Pan]

I find it hard to understand why many people seem to feel that benitez is a brilliant option. Form of managers is important as with players. And the form is Benitez, over this season, has been poor. He will be coming off Pool's worst finish for a few years...why the fuck does that make him a perfect choice for us? We don't need a man wtih such an appalling record for signing poor players. Nor do we need a man who has just spent a season failing at another club. We need someone imbued with success, not failure. Preferably highly experienced, with a decent track record for tactics and man management, as well as transfers.


Whilst Blanc is not experienced as the others on the list, he would be coming off two very succesful seasons with bordeaux. Gasperini is highly experienced, has Juve in his blood, and appears to be decent tactically...I feel he has done wonders with a small budget at Genoa. As with Benitez, Prandelli has not had a decent season at all, despite investing fairly heavily.

Allegri obviously has some talent. As for Pellegrini...a foreign coach may be wicked, and he does have a lot of experience of dealing with a variety of styles and players.

Still...I would prefer, of the above options, Gasperini.

 

[Byrone]

I find it hard to understand why many people seem to feel that benitez is a brilliant option. Form of managers is important as with players. And the form is Benitez, over this season, has been poor. He will be coming off Pool's worst finish for a few years...why the fuck does that make him a perfect choice for us? We don't need a man wtih such an appalling record for signing poor players. Nor do we need a man who has just spent a season failing at another club. We need someone imbued with success, not failure. Preferably highly experienced, with a decent track record for tactics and man management, as well as transfers.

I don't necessarily agree with that,would you reject the chance to sign Arsene Wenger if the chance arose? Sure he hasn't had much success in the epl but who can blame him? Lack of funds would surely dampen any top teams progress.

My main issue with Benitez is his over reliance on star players & very dodgy tactics,consistency is not something he likes.Too many squad rotations & putting players out of position.Anyway i can't really say what could happen if he came over,sometimes a change of scenery is exactly what the doctor ordered.

 

[Lo-Pan]

I don't necessarily agree with that,would you reject the chance to sign Arsene Wenger if the chance arose? Sure he hasn't had much success in the epl but who can blame him? Lack of funds would surely dampen any top teams progress.

My main issue with Benitez is his over reliance on star players & very dodgy tactics,consistency is not something he likes.Too many squad rotations & putting players out of position.Anyway i can't really say what could happen if he came over,sometimes a change of scenery is exactly what the doctor ordered.

Agreed with your concerns of Benitez, but not in any way would I call Arsene a failure. Not this season or any other. I like his coaching style as do most players who he signs...even those he sells rarely say anything other than warm, respectful comments about him. he has had far far less money to play with than Rafa the Kunt, he is tactically superior, comes across as been a more decent man, and has that fatherly/disciplinarian combination which works well with younger players. he also has a keen eye for potential...I would say with what he has had to work with at Arsenal, since his beginning there, he has been a success. When you compare the amount of money spent by Chelsea, Man U and Liverpool with what Wenger has spent, then judge success...i am certain that Wenger would come out top, as a manager. Less trophies and titles of course, but he creates teams that play football and are always entertaining to watch, and he has had success.

 

[Bjerknes]

How can Gasperini, a guy who manages the side who has given up the second most goals in Serie A thus far, be mentioned in the same post as a BETTER option than Benitez?

By some logic around here, the Azzurri should not have hired Lippi after his horrible year with Juventus in 2004 since he guided us to our worst finish in quite some time.

Gasperini has in no way proven himself as much as Benitez has, and to say otherwise is quite misleading and downright ridiculous.

 

[Byrone]

Agreed with your concerns of Benitez, but not in any way would I call Arsene a failure. Not this season or any other. I like his coaching style as do most players who he signs...even those he sells rarely say anything other than warm, respectful comments about him. he has had far far less money to play with than Rafa the Kunt, he is tactically superior, comes across as been a more decent man, and has that fatherly/disciplinarian combination which works well with younger players. he also has a keen eye for potential...I would say with what he has had to work with at Arsenal, since his beginning there, he has been a success. When you compare the amount of money spent by Chelsea, Man U and Liverpool with what Wenger has spent, then judge success...i am certain that Wenger would come out top, as a manager. Less trophies and titles of course, but he creates teams that play football and are always entertaining to watch, and he has had success.

I'm not a fan of Benitez but at the end of the day he has won titles with Valencia & a CL with pool,so you kinda contradictied yourself with the failure part.

As for Arsene i agree,in fact he's the main reason why the epl has been so open to buying foreign talents.Prior to him coming to Arsenal,very few foreigners came in.So Wenger & Vialli really started that trend.Imo he's exactly what we need in order to revolutionize this team.I suppose i'll keep dreamin until he retires.

 

[Lo-Pan]

I'm not a fan of Benitez but at the end of the day he has won titles with Valencia & a CL with pool,so you kinda contradictied yourself with the failure part.

As for Arsene i agree,in fact he's the main reason why the epl has been so open to buying foreign talents.Prior to him coming to Arsenal,very few foreigners came in.So Wenger & Vialli really started that trend.Imo he's exactly what we need in order to revolutionize this team.I suppose i'll keep dreamin until he retires.

I don't see any contradiction. This year at Liverpool, he has failed. His CHampions league victory with Liverpool was the luckiest I have ever seen. In all his time in the premiership he hasn't once come close to seriously grabbing the title, despite spending 10bn EUROS...and i despise his arrogance.

My logic is not your logic, teeth. It never will be. I look at different measures for managers than you, through thankfully different eyes, and with a bigger dick...hohoho!. Only playing, my friend!. Your point makes sense...but Gasperini KNOWS the league, has juve in his blood, and has been doing wicked work with Genoa for the last two seasons. He gets decent results against teams which on paper are often better than his Genoa team. Benitez, has done OK, and been dealt a fair amount of luck in his career so far, and also masses of $$$ to play with. Even with just my head, not my heart, i think that Gasperini would be a better choice than Benitez. He can do more with less...

And your example of not hiring Lippi, is nothing to do with Juventus, nor my demand that we do not hire a failing manager. That is my preference, my hope, my demand, not my theory of all managerial acquisitions. Its nonsense to stretch what I wrote, to Lippi and la nazionale...we are in a very unstable situation, and have been since late last season. We are not at all comprable to the azzurri, of any era. We need a man capable of leading a family, un padrone...un capo. And personally, I much prefer an italian to a spaniard.

and yes Byrone, Wenger would be perfect...but its wrong to let ourselves dream such merriment.

 

[Klin]

I find it hard to understand why many people seem to feel that benitez is a brilliant option. Form of managers is important as with players. And the form is Benitez, over this season, has been poor. He will be coming off Pool's worst finish for a few years...why the fuck does that make him a perfect choice for us? We don't need a man wtih such an appalling record for signing poor players. Nor do we need a man who has just spent a season failing at another club. We need someone imbued with success, not failure. Preferably highly experienced, with a decent track record for tactics and man management, as well as transfers.


Whilst Blanc is not experienced as the others on the list, he would be coming off two very succesful seasons with bordeaux. Gasperini is highly experienced, has Juve in his blood, and appears to be decent tactically...I feel he has done wonders with a small budget at Genoa. As with Benitez, Prandelli has not had a decent season at all, despite investing fairly heavily.

Allegri obviously has some talent. As for Pellegrini...a foreign coach may be wicked, and he does have a lot of experience of dealing with a variety of styles and players.

Still...I would prefer, of the above options, Gasperini.

If Chelsea have used your opinion on their coach selection, they wouldn't have spent the majority of the Premier League on top of the table till now with Ancellotti. I'm taking in concern that you know how mediocre his Milan was 1/2 season/s ago. Sometimes, a change of leagues can do wonders for a coach. The same can be said about Benitez. He is undoubtedly a great coach, with titles to back him up. That's why I would choose him to coach us next season in a heart beat.

 

[Lo-Pan]

But we are not talking about Chelsea, nor Italy, but Juventus. The current Juventus. And the needs and aims and condition and problems of Juventus means that comparing managerial requirements with other clubs is pointless.

Yes, I agree, a change of league, even just a change of club in the same league, can have a dramatic effect on a manager's fortunes.

Rafa's reputation amongst my peers in England, who are all heavily involved in an almost fanatical devotion to the premier league, and to football in general, is not of 'undoubtedly a great coach'. In fact I have only ever heard or read of people referring to him with such reverence on these forums...which is both interesting and strange. Perhaps it implies his reputation outside of england is far stronger than within england.

The great coaches in england...Ferguson....Martin O Neil...Wenger...Capello.

It would seem like a wind-up, for someone to tell me that Benitez is obviously better than those guys, or even as talented as those guys. yet he has won trophies, which to some people, especially on here, makes him something special.

As a player at a club who has had a season of massive disappointment, and some of the worst form for many years, it seems logical for them to be filled with greater enthusiasm for a manager who has recently done something decent with another club, before coming to Juve. And I go back to the main aim of Rafa at Liverpool, which has been to challenge for the title. Has he been a success there, on his main aim?? definitely not. Yes, to many, that ultra lucky champions league campaign which ended with the trophy, makes the original aim of challenging for the title a mute point...but it is not a mute point to me, when my main desire, is to have a Juve which can once again, as is our tradition, challenge every season for the title. On that score, I do not see how anyone can say GET RAFA GET RAFA GET RAFA!!!!!!

here is an interesting article by a scouse from late last year...:>
http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2009/10/official-rafa-benitez-has-spent-over.html

I wasn't aware of all those players he had signed, neither had it dawned on me that he has little interest in developing HOME GROWN YOUTH PLAYERS. I suppose he purchased glen johnson...for a snip at 17m gold nuggets.

 

[Nicholas]

But we are not talking about Chelsea, nor Italy, but Juventus. The current Juventus. And the needs and aims and condition and problems of Juventus means that comparing managerial requirements with other clubs is pointless.

Yes, I agree, a change of league, even just a change of club in the same league, can have a dramatic effect on a manager's fortunes.

Rafa's reputation amongst my peers in England, who are all heavily involved in an almost fanatical devotion to the premier league, and to football in general, is not of 'undoubtedly a great coach'. In fact I have only ever heard or read of people referring to him with such reverence on these forums...which is both interesting and strange. Perhaps it implies his reputation outside of england is far stronger than within england.

The great coaches in england...Ferguson....Martin O Neil...Wenger...Capello.

It would seem like a wind-up, for someone to tell me that Benitez is obviously better than those guys, or even as talented as those guys. yet he has won trophies, which to some people, especially on here, makes him something special.

As a player at a club who has had a season of massive disappointment, and some of the worst form for many years, it seems logical for them to be filled with greater enthusiasm for a manager who has recently done something decent with another club, before coming to Juve. And I go back to the main aim of Rafa at Liverpool, which has been to challenge for the title. Has he been a success there, on his main aim?? definitely not. Yes, to many, that ultra lucky champions league campaign which ended with the trophy, makes the original aim of challenging for the title a mute point...but it is not a mute point to me, when my main desire, is to have a Juve which can once again, as is our tradition, challenge every season for the title. On that score, I do not see how anyone can say GET RAFA GET RAFA GET RAFA!!!!!!

here is an interesting article by a scouse from late last year...:>
http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2009/10/official-rafa-benitez-has-spent-over.html

I wasn't aware of all those players he had signed, neither had it dawned on me that he has little interest in developing HOME GROWN YOUTH PLAYERS. I suppose he purchased glen johnson...for a snip at 17m gold nuggets.

One thing Italy have than England don't is Sporting Directors who handle transfers. Benitez is given a free reign at Liverpool and boy has he bought some rubbish. However he bought one of the top Strikers in Europe.

If you think he is even close to Benitez then your a fool. O'Neil is a joke compared to Rafa.

 

[Klin]

But we are not talking about Chelsea, nor Italy, but Juventus. The current Juventus. And the needs and aims and condition and problems of Juventus means that comparing managerial requirements with other clubs is pointless.

Yes, I agree, a change of league, even just a change of club in the same league, can have a dramatic effect on a manager's fortunes.

Rafa's reputation amongst my peers in England, who are all heavily involved in an almost fanatical devotion to the premier league, and to football in general, is not of 'undoubtedly a great coach'. In fact I have only ever heard or read of people referring to him with such reverence on these forums...which is both interesting and strange. Perhaps it implies his reputation outside of england is far stronger than within england.

The great coaches in england...Ferguson....Martin O Neil...Wenger...Capello.

It would seem like a wind-up, for someone to tell me that Benitez is obviously better than those guys, or even as talented as those guys. yet he has won trophies, which to some people, especially on here, makes him something special.

As a player at a club who has had a season of massive disappointment, and some of the worst form for many years, it seems logical for them to be filled with greater enthusiasm for a manager who has recently done something decent with another club, before coming to Juve. And I go back to the main aim of Rafa at Liverpool, which has been to challenge for the title. Has he been a success there, on his main aim?? definitely not. Yes, to many, that ultra lucky champions league campaign which ended with the trophy, makes the original aim of challenging for the title a mute point...but it is not a mute point to me, when my main desire, is to have a Juve which can once again, as is our tradition, challenge every season for the title. On that score, I do not see how anyone can say GET RAFA GET RAFA GET RAFA!!!!!!

here is an interesting article by a scouse from late last year...:>
http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2009/10/official-rafa-benitez-has-spent-over.html

I wasn't aware of all those players he had signed, neither had it dawned on me that he has little interest in developing HOME GROWN YOUTH PLAYERS. I suppose he purchased glen johnson...for a snip at 17m gold nuggets.

He's not even as talented as Martin O'Neil? Give me a break. Martin O'Neil is a good coach, but you're stretching it a lot now.

As Nick said in the post above, in Italy he wouldn't have to deal with transfers. I believe his tactics suits Serie A better and with some more width in this team, his 4-2-3-1 will be perfect for us.

 

[Eddy]

Prandelli says yes to Juve

Tuttosport understands that Fiorentina boss Cesare Prandelli has agreed to take the Juventus job this summer.

It's no secret that the Bianconeri are looking for a big name to replace Alberto Zaccheroni at the end of the season.

The likes of Guus Hiddink, Rafa Benitez and Fabio Capello have all been mentioned, but the favourite is said to be Prandelli.

Tuttosport claims that Juventus made contact with Prandelli over a month ago, simply calling the 52-year-old to ask whether he will be available or not.

Prandelli is also said to have rekindled his relationship with Roberto Bettega, Juventus's vice-general manager, with whom he hadn't spoken for years because of an 'old misunderstanding'.

However, what makes Prandelli's change of scene all the more likely is the fact he has apparently already spoken with Juventus's lawyer Michele Briamonte about the prospect of a three-year contract with the Turin giants.

Nothing has yet been signed, but Prandelli has hardly discouraged Juventus's overtures.

The Bianconeri have allegedly unveiled their plans for the future, which are said to comprise of a €50m transfer budget.

Prandelli still has a year to run on his existing deal with Fiorentina, and Juventus will now have to intervene to smooth over his move north.

@Andy: The best coach in the world to coach us soon.

 

[RAMI-N]

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@Andy: The best coach in the world to coach us soon.

The best in the world??? Who???

 

[Eddy]

The best in the world??? Who???

You don't know who the best coach in the world is ? Come on

I can't wait for Vinman's nicknames.

 

[RAMI-N]

You don't know who the best coach in the world is ? Come on

I can't wait for Vinman's nicknames.

No. tell me

 

[Eddy]

No. tell me

He coaches this purple team and most people in this forum prefer him to Benitez