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GordoDeCentral

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So then who do you, Hustini, and everyone else up in arms over this want to blame for what just happened? Do you want to blame Conte? Fine. Blame him, but he has been at the helm of a team currently in first place. Blame Marotta? Fine, but he got much more money than he paid for a player who wasn't even seeing the bench at Juventus. Or does everyone just want to throw caution to the wind and let a 19 year old play CB on a team fighting for first place and desperately need to qualify for the CL next year, or this club is fucked for the next 4 years. And to those who think that Sorensen would not be any worse than bonucci, don't you think that Conte has already thought about this seven ways to Sunday? Personally I love the kid. All you have to do is go back in this thread when he was playing last year. But it just might be the case where Conte doesn't see him as ready to play significant minutes.

what we should be worried about is whether conte/marotta will make a serious acquisition in defense so we dont have to see klin starting for us anymore
 

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Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
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Our lack of faith in young players is absolutely piss poor. We spent almost 50m on Melo/Diego, 12m on Martinez, 15m (35m Cronios Dollars) on Bonucci...don't even get me started on salaries we have shit into the wind.

marchisio is the only "success" story at Empoli and even that can be debtated...

We give players half away only to buy them back later at even more than what we sold half of them for? In between now and then we overspend for players that add nothing to the team that these youngsters couldn't do only because apparently, as nenna said, in Italy age is one of the biggest guarantees for coaches apparently.
 

KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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I'm not telling you anything!!! And don't talk to me about young players. I was one of the few (Andy included) who wanted to blow the whole fucking thing up when they were demoted to Serie B and start all over again with young players
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
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I'm not telling you anything!!! And don't talk to me about young players. I was one of the few (Andy included) who wanted to blow the whole fucking thing up when they were demoted to Serie B and start all over again with young players
I wouldn't be so bitter if we hadn't given half of him away. We really screwed ourselves here IMO...unless behind the scenes we got the right to bid on Ramirez for example.

Let's say his value goes up to 10m...now we have to pay 5m (ish) to get him back?
 

KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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I can't fucking believe that you for a second thought that I think that Sorensen is worse than bonucci. I never said that ONCE Cam. Not once. But you know who does? Conte, apparently. So all of your bitching and whining is getting you absolutely nowhere.
 

IliveForJuve

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Jan 17, 2011
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-He won't play professional football with us.
-He'll get more minutes at Bologna playing professional football.

And so what if we pay more for him in the end? If he turns out to be good then we pay a little more, if not, then, we just get rid of him. The ony thing we can't afford is dropping points for playing him and having faith in him.
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
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I can't fucking believe that you for a second thought that I think that Sorensen is worse than bonucci. I never said that ONCE Cam. Not once. But you know who does? Conte, apparently. So all of your bitching and whining is getting you absolutely nowhere.
How do we know that Marotta didn't push for this and not Conte? :D
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
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-He won't play professional football with us.
-He'll get more minutes at Bologna playing professional football.

And so what if we pay more for him in the end? If he turns out to be good then we pay a little more, if not, then, we just get rid of him. The ony thing we can't afford is dropping points for playing him and having faith in him.
-we can't control his development anymore, that's in Bolognas hands.
-who is to say they don't decide to pull a Criscito and after 1 or 2 sketch performances he finds himself on the bench with no playing time at all
-who is to say they don't bring another CB in by the 31st and pushes him to the bench without a fair chance
-we continue with Leadumbo Bonucci and lose points
-we don't bring in a CB before the 31st so we are down a defender
-we end up paying much more than the 2.5m they spent...so not only does Bologna get 1 over us by making a profit at the end, that is if we becomes better like you all think he will, but we end up paying more for it anyways...plus between now and then we spend upwards to 10m on backups, when we had a good one that cost us 200k

Do yo need more reasons?
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
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Cammy. It doesn't matter who pushed for this, what really matters is why. I believe they have faith in him and they want him to play at professional level.
It's sad when youth players don't get the faith of their own club that they have to have half of their contracts sold to other teams then go through a dramatic tug of war and then you have the whole emotional issues, like we see with Giovinco, that suddenly don't want to come back because they just don't know what to trust anymore

then you get the whole "fuck giovinco" , "fuck sorensen", "criscito is a jihad" bullshit all over again.
 

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