Franco Vázquez - AM C - Palermo (1 Viewer)
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Oh, for sure Serge. Honestly, the quality of the posts on average were far greater back in the day. We lost some good posters over a period of time. Miss those days fo sho. Also, ironically, it's also from a time when issues were probably less complicated than they are now. We were bigger then, the serie a was still a relevant destination, and our mercato moves definitely were a bit more soothing than they are today. 
On the whole though, the 'Tuz as an entity was like Del Piero at the time. Fluid and friendly. And today, we are more like Giovinco. Short on articulation, short on patience and ant like in respect for others opinions.
No way near as bad as it is today Jaje. Trolling never spilt across threads the way they do today. It's sad really.
Honestly, Vazquez, if you view this move in isolation, would be a very Juve like move in most seasons, and could also make for an absolutely shrewd deal at the right price. But, in the context of the season we have had, the CL position, the rate at which the team has grown, and the eventual sale of Vidal, following the loss of Tevez particularly, and Pirlo - I would say the team should be pushing the envelope a bit more. This would be a sign of settling for a player rather than aggressively going out and getting the intended target at this point.
On the whole though, the 'Tuz as an entity was like Del Piero at the time. Fluid and friendly. And today, we are more like Giovinco. Short on articulation, short on patience and ant like in respect for others opinions.
No way near as bad as it is today Jaje. Trolling never spilt across threads the way they do today. It's sad really.
Honestly, Vazquez, if you view this move in isolation, would be a very Juve like move in most seasons, and could also make for an absolutely shrewd deal at the right price. But, in the context of the season we have had, the CL position, the rate at which the team has grown, and the eventual sale of Vidal, following the loss of Tevez particularly, and Pirlo - I would say the team should be pushing the envelope a bit more. This would be a sign of settling for a player rather than aggressively going out and getting the intended target at this point.
I tend to judge after the end result, and I trust the boards decisions. The thing is, that sometimes its better to buy or loan someone instead of nothing, because if the player is actually exploding at Juve, thats very good, if not, he might not even get on the bench. It's not like we buy and he must play, we buy, test the player, then make a decision. Thats why there are increasing talks of clauses of minimal played games and performance related bonuses. To be reassured if things don't go as planned.
@Klin , I sure want some established stars or players with undoubted talent, but I fancy a shot at unproven one's also, as we are doing a good job without many superstars anyway.
The result is all that matters.
@Klin , I sure want some established stars or players with undoubted talent, but I fancy a shot at unproven one's also, as we are doing a good job without many superstars anyway.
The result is all that matters.
1 good season out of how many though? how will vazquez aid us in europe? we will be back to the "the team lacks experience in europe" excuse. There is little to suggest vazquez can even replicate his form again this season or even at a bigger club that demands more, just think about how Cerci's career has panned out since his outbreak season at torino? I don't buy this excuse that we should buy him so he can replicate his partnership with dybala again it doesn't mean they can replicate that form with a team that is actually not built around them unlike their time at palermo and that is the key point to highlight. Sneijder on the other hand - yes i dislike him and would oppose any move for him at least has european experience on his side, a far more proven player regardless of the fact that he is plying his trade in turkey
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it's almost enough to make me wish we bought Gerson instead.
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it's almost enough to make me wish we bought Gerson instead.
Vasquez is a pre Conte era signing ala Krasic, Martinez, Amauri - not a top signing for a team that has just been in a CL final and won 4 consecutive scudetti.
I'm not saying we can't make use of Vasquez - we definitely could - but he's no upgrade to Pereyra, and this is what we need.
Spending ~€70-80m on just two top players in one mercato might seem impossible to us, but letting go of both Tevez and Vidal we need to do it to remain on par with last seasons squad.. Having made €100m total of CL alone last season we should have at least half / €50 available for transfers and having just sold Vidal for €37m we definitely can afford a €40-45m Götze signing just now. Cherry!
I'm not saying we can't make use of Vasquez - we definitely could - but he's no upgrade to Pereyra, and this is what we need.
Spending ~€70-80m on just two top players in one mercato might seem impossible to us, but letting go of both Tevez and Vidal we need to do it to remain on par with last seasons squad.. Having made €100m total of CL alone last season we should have at least half / €50 available for transfers and having just sold Vidal for €37m we definitely can afford a €40-45m Götze signing just now. Cherry!
I would argue that all of our signings this summer have been downgrades if not at the very most equal to who they are replacing from last season's team, I just don't get what the club are trying to achieve here but it's not the right way to go about it if they keep talking about how they want to be european giants again
I always find it funny when people read "we made 100mil from cl" that they think our management goes like "Oh, we were in the CL ? And we made 100mil ? Woah, lets buy stuff"
Offcourse, the intelligent person, isnt this stupid. Before the season, the board sets the expectations for the CL, and uses the money that that expectation will deliver, in the mercato allready. In juventus case, this means that we had set the bar at knockout rounds. Anything extra would be extra
Now, we made some extra. But thats like 35 mil or something. Wich brought you dybala
Offcourse, the intelligent person, isnt this stupid. Before the season, the board sets the expectations for the CL, and uses the money that that expectation will deliver, in the mercato allready. In juventus case, this means that we had set the bar at knockout rounds. Anything extra would be extra
Now, we made some extra. But thats like 35 mil or something. Wich brought you dybala
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