Formula 1 - Season 2010 (3 Viewers)

Boksic

Senior Member
May 11, 2005
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Spa is actually the best race, I miss the rainy Sundays in Belgium when Schumi owned.
:tup:

I still remember when it was the old first corner (before the changed it) and there was always a crash there at the start of the race.

Superb track!
 

blondu

Grazie Ale
Nov 9, 2006
27,408
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That was a dangerous move by Schumacher. Barichello did really well there...
very stupid move by schumi...i can't believe he done that

:agree:

Spa is :tuttosport: I really hope it rains again.
Spa is actually the best race, I miss the rainy Sundays in Belgium when Schumi owned.
spa is interesting but the best track out there imo is the malaysian track then the turkish one.
 

BillyG

Caribbean Ultra
Nov 25, 2006
4,151
1. very stupid move by schumi...i can't believe he done that





2.spa is interesting but the best track out there imo is the malaysian track then the turkish one.
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look at how close schumi had rubens to the wall.


2. They need to ban tracks like Hungaroring and Monaco that promote processions rather than racing, granted this year's race in Hungary was different from the norm. No point in a race that is largely determined on Saturday barring something outrageous.

Surly there are teacks that can be just as technically demanding while have much more places where the opportunity overtake is high.
 
May 22, 2007
37,256
The tracks aren't the problem, it's the cars.

About the Schumacher/Barrichello thing. It was incredibly dangerous from Schumi, but Rubens put himself in that position, when he could have gone down the racing line. I've come to find the Brazilian quite irritating actually, especially after this team orders saga.
 

BillyG

Caribbean Ultra
Nov 25, 2006
4,151
The tracks aren't the problem, it's the cars.

About the Schumacher/Barrichello thing. It was incredibly dangerous from Schumi, but Rubens put himself in that position, when he could have gone down the racing line. I've come to find the Brazilian quite irritating actually, especially after this team orders saga.
what's wrong with the cars in your opinion? U refering to the turbulent air they leave behind?

I'm looking at it from Button's POV, your either on the narrow racing line or your screwed cuz the otehr side of teh track is that much dirtier compared to other tracks where the racging line and the track itself are a bit wider so cars can over take a little easier.
 
May 22, 2007
37,256
what's wrong with the cars in your opinion? U refering to the turbulent air they leave behind?

I'm looking at it from Button's POV, your either on the narrow racing line or your screwed cuz the otehr side of teh track is that much dirtier compared to other tracks where the racging line and the track itself are a bit wider so cars can over take a little easier.
Yes, the turbulent air makes it very difficult if you're against a half decent car and driver (see Vettel vs Alonso yesterday) on exactly the same strategy. Barrichello only got close to Schumacher thanks to his brand new tyres. There needs to be a cut down of this downforce, because on tracks like Hungaroring and Circuit de Monaco, the cars are designed to favour downforce over straight line speed.

Look to when Senna was around and the designs of cars weren't as complex to maximise grip. That is at Hungary.

On top of that, the refuelling ban is very strange when you think about it because fuel strategies make the field more unbalanced. You used to get drivers like Trulli who held up everyone and caused a train of cars where there was overtaking.

Edit: And this is proved by the usual bore fest which Bahrain produces every year. A circuit with 3 or 4 genuine opportunities to get into someones slipstream and overtake them and there is hardly any action.
 

BillyG

Caribbean Ultra
Nov 25, 2006
4,151
Yes, the turbulent air makes it very difficult if you're against a half decent car and driver (see Vettel vs Alonso yesterday) on exactly the same strategy. Barrichello only got close to Schumacher thanks to his brand new tyres. There needs to be a cut down of this downforce, because on tracks like Hungaroring and Circuit de Monaco, the cars are designed to favour downforce over straight line speed.

Look to when Senna was around and the designs of cars weren't as complex to maximise grip. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv9DT7UXXt8 That is at Hungary.

On top of that, the refuelling ban is very strange when you think about it because fuel strategies make the field more unbalanced. You used to get drivers like Trulli who held up everyone and caused a train of cars where there was overtaking.

Edit: And this is proved by the usual bore fest which Bahrain produces every year. A circuit with 3 or 4 genuine opportunities to get into someones slipstream and overtake them and there is hardly any action.

Yeah but, if the make a rule to lower the max downforce you & i both know teams will bitch like hell about it & talk about safety with cars not being able to stay on the track because of the lower downforce. That could be easlit countered though by the fact then that the cars back in the 90's had bigger engines and there fore more speed and they still managed to stay on track with less aero grip.

And yes, bahrian is a complete borefest and IMO so is Monaco where the only thing worth watching is qualifying!

But you think they should bring back re-fueling for next season?
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,386
too many regulations, wrecking the sport really, making it boring.
Exactly, a few years ago when they started with this bullshit of changing the rules and adding too many regulations every season, I said that this might hurt the sport. Now I don't know if it is hurting the sport or not but you can be sure that I have lost interest. I just follow the results and I watch some bits of some races.
 

BillyG

Caribbean Ultra
Nov 25, 2006
4,151
races as a whole haven't been exciting, but there have been occassional parts within some races that were worth watching. That's about it really.

Salvo said it best, too many rules!
 
May 22, 2007
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Yeah but, if the make a rule to lower the max downforce you & i both know teams will bitch like hell about it & talk about safety with cars not being able to stay on the track because of the lower downforce. That could be easlit countered though by the fact then that the cars back in the 90's had bigger engines and there fore more speed and they still managed to stay on track with less aero grip.
They got rid of the V10 engines for a reason, to slow down the cars. The cars will still be infinitely safer than they were 20 years ago, just less grip so they don't cruise around bends like they do.

But you think they should bring back re-fueling for next season?
Yes.

Strategies involving fuel were there to mix things up, it just adds to the excitement. F1 officials have tried to make it more about racing than what teams can do in pit stops, yet now it's got even worse. On Sunday you had the top 4 all decided by who went into the pits and who didn't because they were all able to use one pit stop.
 

Dominic

Senior Member
Jan 30, 2004
16,706
Exactly, a few years ago when they started with this bullshit of changing the rules and adding too many regulations every season, I said that this might hurt the sport. Now I don't know if it is hurting the sport or not but you can be sure that I have lost interest. I just follow the results and I watch some bits of some races.
Yeah, for some reason I dont nearly watch it as much anymore.
 

Ken

The Dutch Touch
Aug 17, 2007
13,340
Spa next, and I'll be going again most likely. As every year.

As it's in Belgium, you just spend about 3 minutes finding a decent spot.. then either jump the fence or just walk through some huge gap in it. Free F1 on one of the, if not THE, best track on the calendar. :juventus:
 

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