[FML] Serie A 2009/2010 (13 Viewers)

[Dostoevsky]

Rab, I agree it's not about tricks and I hate that kind of players so I will not put myself into that group. Tell me 5 players, that play nowadays, his age, that have more potential. Don't compare him with Batistuta, Maradona and Zidane.

Just kids we see these days play.

 

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[V]

Rab, I agree it's not about tricks and I hate that kind of players so I will not put myself into that group. Tell me 5 players, that play nowadays, his age, that have more potential. Don't compare him with Batistuta, Maradona and Zidane.

Just kids we see these days play.

Marchisio, Giovinco, Marrone, Fausto Rossi and Immobile.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Oh and I see Fred's point and I can agree with something like that. I don't agree with my love Rab though. But I still love his tushy.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Marchisio, Giovinco, Marrone, Fausto Rossi and Immobile.

Only Marchisio can make it of all those for now. And Balotelli is no way behind him, only much better IMO. And he's not young. He's 5 years older.

Balotelli at 24 can and probably will be ten times better.

 

[Azzurri7]

Zlatan was a prick.

On the field, ok, so tell me what is he doing wrong when it comes to his play? He always plays great and I'm not saying this because of the Chelsea match. I was saying that even before when we had this argument. Why isn't Balotelli listening to coach and do you even know something like that?

No, I'm not saying that. I just say that he's getting many chances in a team like Inter and they have great strikers.

Zlatan was a prick or still(don't know), but no way like Balotelli.

Zlatan wasn't into the mood fights on the field, Balotelli is always into mood fights, be it with veterans or players his age. Balotelli tries to dive even when he comes off the bench, and he's not even good at it. Zlatan wasn't a disgusting player but arrogant at some point.

And you know what, arrogant players like C. Ronaldo and Ibrahimovic have proved themselves and play a key role for their team and coaches, Balotelli doesn't play any key role, not for Inter, nor for U21 nor he will for the NT because no player is mentally sick like him.

It's not me who said Balotelli isn't listening to coaches, ffs man, you should be the one to know more since you follow news more, Mourinho has said that too many times, even his teammates (Eto'o, Milito and team Captain Zanetti) criticized his attitude and not working hard in trainings like Mourinho said.

 

[Alen]

What I see in this prick, is that, he needs to fix too many things in himself in-case he wants to become a top player let alone one of the best.

He will never be one of the best. I might be wrong but that's my opinion.

He fits extremely well in this Inter, though.
Not because, as most Juve fans will say, he's disgusting as much as the team he plays in. He fits so well because he offers diversity, element of surprise.
I don't think he has the potential to lead a team to success. I doubt he'll ever do that. But he has the quality to do something out of nothing. Imo, he's the only one who's replacing (although only partly) Zlatan in Inter.
In a machine that is Inter, where everyone knows his place, his job, everything is more or less predictable (but still hard to stop), Balotelli offers unpredictability. He's a perfect card to play when you don't know how to break your opponent. You never know what he'll do, from where he'll shoot, where he'll pass, where he'll dribble. I can imagine how annoying it can be for the defenders but also for a coach to handle such temperament, such individuality and selfishness. Still, you can see that Mourinho is going over those negative characteristics and still keeps playing Balotelli as his hidden ace. That's because Mourinho knows that he needs a player like Balotelli to add freshness in a rather boring machine.

He's a guy you'd like to have in your team. Not as a leader of the team and a player your team depends on. But as a talent and element of surprise.
In Lippi's place I'd call Balotelli in the 23 men squad.

 

[Azzurri7]

Rab, you're really giving Balotelli too little recognition, that's really obvious.

That's how it should be I think, V.

Personally, I see Giovinco a better player, more gifted than him with a better vision but I don't go on say he will become this or that until he proves it on the pitch.

Balotelli hasn't proven anything to be a promising one of the best players. I don't like when people fasten things up.

Wrong way to judge on players this way IMHO.

 

[sateeh]

I have to side with Rab on this one. Zlatan even though he is an egocentric and arrogant player on the pitch, he is a professional that strives to be the best. Similar to C. Ronaldo as well. They feed their egos by getting better and getting recognition.

Balotelli on the other hand is a brat who doesn't want to listen to coaches, media or whoever, even though he has talent he lacks the self-motivation Zlatan has. Balotelli is like Cassano, extremely talented but with a self-destructive personality.

I have to agree with you two as well. The kid has talent but only to a certain level.

First of all on the field he is still not completely a team player offensively. It could be that he is young but the special talents have shown how they could positively interplay consistently.

And his attitude is way worse than many many of the "bad attitude" players mentioned. It is a considerable block. Reminds of a Cassano or a Bellamy. Someone who cannot consistently concentrate on the goal at hand because he doesn't listen to his managers, can't handle the pressure, always trying to rile up the fans or get riled up by them etc..

If he fixes his attitude then he will go a long way to becoming a good player but I don't see how he could be one of the greats.

 

[Azzurri7]

Rab, I agree it's not about tricks and I hate that kind of players so I will not put myself into that group. Tell me 5 players, that play nowadays, his age, that have more potential. Don't compare him with Batistuta, Maradona and Zidane.

Just kids we see these days play.

But that's the thing, I don't see him the way you do. You see him as an extraordinary player, I don't.

And you also said you haven't seen players at his age play this good which makes me conclude that you haven't seen too many young players before that developed into some of the best players ever.

 

[Dostoevsky]

He's a guy you'd like to have in your team. Not as a leader of the team and a player your team depends on. But as a talent and element of surprise.
In Lippi's place I'd call Balotelli in the 23 men squad.

For the record, I said he can be a top class striker. In my books that's totally different than a leader and a player who you can depend on.

He can't be a leader, but a top class yes, at least for me.

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But that's the thing, I don't see him the way you do. You see him as an extraordinary player, I don't.

And you also said you haven't seen players at his age play this good which makes me conclude that you haven't seen too many young players before that developed into some of the best players ever.

Ok Rab, I see what are you trying to say. Just name me 5 players at the age of 17-20 that play nowadays, that you rate much higher and those that you think can be great. Just attacking midfielders and strikers if possible. You said there are many playing, I'd like to see who's on your list.

 

[Sadomin]

Cassano was (and still is) a lazy whiner despite all his talent.

Balotelli is an arrogant thug but he has the determination and charisma that Cassano lacks. That will make the difference.

He'll be a world class striker. Sooner than you think.

 

[Dostoevsky]

btw what does H represent in IMHO?

 

[Dostoevsky]

Cassano was (and still is) a lazy whiner despite all his talent.

Balotelli is an arrogant thug but he has the determination and charisma that Cassano lacks. That will make the difference.

He'll be a world class striker. Sooner than you think.

Exactly.

 

[Sadomin]

btw what does H represent in IMHO?

Humble. Often misused.

 

[Alen]

btw what does H represent in IMHO?

honest?

Ah, humble

 

[Dostoevsky]

Humble. Often misused.

Yeah, and I hate it.

honest?

Ah, humble

I thought that too but I wanted to check.

 

[Sadomin]

Also, the comparison between Balotelli and Zlatan isn't far off. Zlatan has always been an idol in Sweden, loved and defended by most even when he was in conflict with the NT. He never had to withstand the kind of pressure Balotelli's constantly under. Who knows how a 20-year old Zlatan would have reacted with weekly heckling, racist attacks and media exposure in one of the top leagues.

He did have some trouble with coaches and players in Ajax too.

 

[Azzurri7]

Still, you can see that Mourinho is going over those negative characteristics and still keeps playing Balotelli as his hidden ace. That's because Mourinho knows that he needs a player like Balotelli to add freshness in a rather boring machine.

IMO, I think he still plays him most of the times because he's the only Italian in his team. We all know how much fun media, press, fans are making of Inter when they don't field any Italian player, Lippi hinted at that too few weeks ago.

Matrix isn't a player you can play unless you want to concede goals.
Santon isn't yet there.

That's how I honestly see this, he wants to play an Italian player from time to time and Balotelli out of those three is the best option of course.

 

[Sadomin]

IMO, I think he still plays him most of the times because he's the only Italian in his team. We all know how much fun media, press, fans are making of Inter when they don't field any Italian player, Lippi hinted at that too few weeks ago.

Matrix isn't a player you can play unless you want to concede goals.
Santon isn't yet there.

That's how I honestly see this, he wants to play an Italian player from time to time and Balotelli out of those three is the best option of course.

Sorry Rab, you're really trying too hard now.

 

[Azzurri7]

Ok Rab, I see what are you trying to say. Just name me 5 players at the age of 17-20 that play nowadays, that you rate much higher and those that you think can be great. Just attacking midfielders and strikers if possible. You said there are many playing, I'd like to see who's on your list.

Does it really make sense naming 5players? It's too easy to name players that I see them better players, more hardworkers, more determined and I see them having a better future than Balotelli. It's not that hard.

But before naming you any, I want to say something concerning the age talk..

Players can be at 17 or 18 nowadays and be under the spotlights for making a debut with this team or that, or for having a very promising future, but this means nothing until he or they are proven.

How many of us knew Del Piero at the age of 18? Few, not much. How many of us knew Totti at the age of 18? Few too and not much. Same goes with Zidane who wasn't known until he started playing couple of good games for Bordeaux when he was like what 23?? and so many other examples, those players were nothing to media, press, fans like Balotelli is now, does that mean anything? They have proven themselves because of the hardwork, determination, listening to their coaches, knowing when to be arrogant and when not etc...

What I'm trying to say here, just because he's 18 doesn't mean he will be above sky like everyone thinks.