Five-match ban for Nedved (1 Viewer)

ZAF3000

Senior Member
Feb 14, 2005
5,347
#63
This is absolutely rubish.
For me the foul Nedved has done does not deserve a red card. Maybe a yellow (a second yellow that is but not a straight red), let alone his first yellow was not even worthy of a yellow (if I remmeber correctly).
Claiming that he has hit the ref on purpose is completely stupid. We all saw the match, if the ref was his "on purpose" we would have all seen it. Now the picture provided in this thread shows that neddy rushed into the ref and didn't intend to step on him.
 

isha00

Senior Member
Jun 24, 2003
5,114
#64
sacrer said:
but Del Piero is back for th next match right? Anyone else back?
Del Piero might be back, but most probably won't be ready to start. The same goes for Zalayeta. Then we must pray for Zebina to be fit, cause Chiellini is the only one we have left in that role.
That's it.
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
36,922
#65
isha00 said:
Del Piero might be back, but most probably won't be ready to start. The same goes for Zalayeta. Then we must pray for Zebina to be fit, cause Chiellini is the only one we have left in that role.
That's it.
Here's smth to be enthusiastic about:

With absence of Del Piero, Birindelli and Nedved,
Gianluigi Buffon could captain Juve for the 1st time since he came ;)

I don't know why, but I'm really excited about this.
 

Albertmare

Idea Maker
Mar 24, 2006
13,963
#67
Holyshit, 5 matchs ban ? this must be too harsh for us . damn , i smell a conspiration againts us from this case . someone is trying hard to slowing down our pace to Serie A. :irritated
 

Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
21,649
#69
isha00 said:
About that, there are no images and we all know that if Pavel had done it on purpose he would have got months of banning, not 'just' 5 matches. So I'm thinking that the most that happened could be that while protesting for the red, he might have touched accidentaly the ref's foot with his.
What months of ban?

For God´s sake, he didn´t knockout the referee.

Some members here told me he stepped on referee´s toe, accidentally or not, I don´t know...


What is so surprising?

Many of you don´t give our Board any credit and underestimate them.

For God´s sake, have a little faith...


Jacques said:
Who agrees with me that this thread has been wonderful with Badass_Devil away?
:agree: :tup: :smoke:
 

isha00

Senior Member
Jun 24, 2003
5,114
#70
mark83 said:
What months of ban?

For God´s sake, he didn´t knockout the referee.

Some members here told me he stepped on referee´s toe, accidentally or not, I don´t know...
If he, or anyone else, hurt the ref on purpose you can bet they would receive months of banning.

What is so surprising?

Many of you don´t give our Board any credit and underestimate them.

For God´s sake, have a little faith...
Credit for what exactly? For not having even tried to fight for us, even though they themselves said that there weren't illicits? Or of having sold our players for ridiculous prices (also) to inter? For having said that Serie B is the serie we 100% feel we belong to? For not having appealed to Tas for at least the 2005/06 scudetto, even though they had every right to? Or because they care so deeply about Juve (see Montali and Tardelli)?

I can give the benefit of doubt to people I don't know. But after being betrayed, I tend not to have faith anymore.


Nedved seems not to disagree too much:


Quando il giudice emette la sentenza l'imputato è in campo che corre ignaro dietro a un pallone, una fascia a fermargli i capelli biondi. Anche se è mezzogiornoa Vinovo fa freddo: Pavel Nedved ha i guanti e gli esce una nuvoletta dalla bocca. A bordo campo tutti sanno, ma nessuno osa interrompere la partitella, che va avanti a lungo. Quando Deschamps fischia la fine, un funzionario gli va incontro per dirgli delle 5 giornate di squalifica, mentre un altro si avvicina a Nedved. Lui non fa una piega, come se se l'aspettasse, e sfilandosi i guanti molla la più italiana delle imprecazioni. Ancora sulla porta degli spogliatoi, sotto l'occhio di Juve Channel, Pavel rimane glaciale: toglie il fango dalle scarpe, si aggiusta i capelli davanti a uno specchio. Ma dentro si scatena la furia ceca e volano gli stracci.

«È inc... nero — racconta uno dei compagni più vecchi, tra i primi a uscire —. Ma tanto si sapeva che quest'anno con gli arbitri per noi era così: avete visto anche a Genova. Però in questo modo si mettono ancora di più dalla parte del torto». Nedved, infagottato in un eskimo, non dice una parola e sgomma via su una Musa di un blu scuro come il suo umore. Si farà sentire più tardi, per bocca del procuratore, e manderà un messaggio pesantissimo: «Hanno dato tre giornate a Zidane per una testata, cosa ho fatto io per prenderne cinque? Se la politica è questa, io smetto di giocare a calcio». Ce l'ha con Farina, che secondo lui nel referto ha mentito, col giudice e con la Federcalcio. Ma è arrabbiato anche per la linea buonista della Juventus, che non si fa rispettare. Lui non ci sta
"He's furious- one of his 'oldest' teammates says- We knew that this year it would have been like this with refs for us, but this way they put themselves even more on the wrong side".
Then, through his managers he says: "They gave 3 matchdays to Zidane for the headbutt, What did I do to get 5? If this is the way it goes, then I'll quit with football". He's angry with Farina, who, according to him, lied in his refert, with the judge and with Federcalcio. But he's angry also with the "nice" policy of the club, that doesn't make itself be respected. He can't accept it.


And here it comes! From Tuttosport:

La dirigenza ha già preparato il ricorso con l'obiettivo di una riduzione a due turni di stop, ma multerà il giocatore seguendo il nuovo codice etico.
(Tuttosport)
The management already prepared the appeal, with the goal to have the matchdays reduced to 2, but they will *fine* the player, following the new ethic code.

How wonderful, isn't it? They'll also fine him! :(
 

isha00

Senior Member
Jun 24, 2003
5,114
#72
Jacques said:
Has there ever been a longer ban for a player receiving a red card?
Boninsegna, in his days, received 11 matchdays, for having insulted the ref. Sivori, in his career, received a total of 33 matchdays.
I have no idea about the more recent ones.
 

Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
21,649
#73
isha00 said:
If he, or anyone else, hurt the ref on purpose you can bet they would receive months of banning.

Credit for what exactly? For not having even tried to fight for us, even though they themselves said that there weren't illicits? Or of having sold our players for ridiculous prices (also) to inter? For having said that Serie B is the serie we 100% feel we belong to? For not having appealed to Tas for at least the 2005/06 scudetto, even though they had every right to? Or because they care so deeply about Juve (see Montali and Tardelli)?

I can give the benefit of doubt to people I don't know. But after being betrayed, I tend not to have faith anymore.

Nedved seems not to disagree too much:

"He's furious- one of his 'oldest' teammates says- We knew that this year it would have been like this with refs for us, but this way they put themselves even more on the wrong side".
Then, through he managers he says: "They gave 3 matchdays to Zidane for the headbutt, What did I do to get 5? If this is the way it goes, then I'll quit with football". He's angry with Farina, who, according to him, lied in his refert, with the judge and with Federcalcio. But he's angry also with the "nice" policy of the club, that doesn't make itself be respected. He can't accept it.

And here it comes! From Tuttosport:

The management already prepared the appeal, with the goal to have the matchdays reduced to 2, but they will *fine* the player, following the new ethic code.

How wonderful, isn't it? They'll also fine him! :(
I don´t think he would receive months of ban for stepping on referee foot, I´ve seen players pushing the referees away and they didn´t get months of ban.

I´m sure our Board is doing the best job they can do and that their decisions are well analysed.

Excuse me, but neither you and I know the full situation of the Scandal and facts and accusations.

Nedved is always been known for his temper and nothing what happened in that match doesn´t justify his behaviour, he is paid to be professional.

To be honest, I would fine him too, cause he now abandoned his team for 5 matches because of some stupid mistake in 95th minute.

Our Board have to show the Italian Football Federation that honesty and ethic code are very important now to the club, so we can clean ourselves forever from this scandal.

:pint:
 

V

Senior Member
Jun 8, 2005
20,110
#74
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Furious Nedved issues threat
Wednesday 6 December, 2006

Juventus ace Pavel Nedved is fuming over his five-match ban. “If this is the policy, I will retire,” he stated.

The Czech midfielder received the massive ban for his dismissal against Genoa in Friday night’s 1-1 draw, when he was adjudged to have intentionally stepped on the foot of the referee after his red card.

“Zinedine Zidane was suspended for three matches for a head-butt, what did I do to get five?,” said the player to his agent Mino Raiola.

“If this is the way they intend to manage things, I might as well retire from football,” added the player, who was asked by Juve to avoid releasing any statements on the issue as the Bianconeri are appealing.

“Pavel told me that he cannot agree with the decision and that [referee] Farina is a liar, he never offended him and he did not stamp on him voluntarily,” explained Raiola to La Gazzetta dello Sport.

“Many clubs have complained about this referee, including Chelsea, Barcelona, Inter and Milan.

“Pavel is convinced that the team is paying for what happened during the summer, but that was not the players’ fault,” added the representative.

“If this is how things will continue, they should have killed the club or given them a 40-point deduction.

“Pavel also wants Juve to know that he does not agree with their attitude. The club must react and demand respect.

“If this does not change he is ready to consider quitting. Punishments must be proportional to blame, in this case there is no proportion.

“I am thinking of appealing to the European Court of Human Rights. A five-match ban means that Nedved will not be able to play for a month and a half and you cannot deny a citizen the right to work for such a long time.

“They might as well rescind his contract…” ended Raiola.

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pavel has every right to be upset and the club should stand by him and fight, we can't allow these things to happen.
 
Sep 28, 2002
13,975
#75
vlatko said:
“I am thinking of appealing to the European Court of Human Rights. A five-match ban means that Nedved will not be able to play for a month and a half and you cannot deny a citizen the right to work for such a long time.
:howler:
 

sateeh

Day Walker
Jul 28, 2003
8,019
#78
Boninsegna, in his days, received 11 matchdays, for having insulted the ref. Sivori, in his career, received a total of 33 matchdays.
I have no idea about the more recent ones.
how many games did ben Thatcher from Man City get ? 7 mybe,but he put another player in the hospital and almost ended his career

Neddy has the right to pursue justice. These kind of things make me just want to keep watching anything else
 

isha00

Senior Member
Jun 24, 2003
5,114
#79
mark83 said:
I don´t think he would receive months of ban for stepping on referee foot, I´ve seen players pushing the referees away and they didn´t get months of ban.

I´m sure our Board is doing the best job they can do and that their decisions are well analysed.

Excuse me, but neither you and I know the full situation of the Scandal and facts and accusations.

Nedved is always been known for his temper and nothing what happened in that match doesn´t justify his behaviour, he is paid to be professional.

To be honest, I would fine him too, cause he now abandoned his team for 5 matches because of some stupid mistake in 95th minute.

Our Board have to show the Italian Football Federation that honesty and ethic code are very important now to the club, so we can clean ourselves forever from this scandal.

:pint:
Ah! Honesty and ethic! Do you really believe, especially after this summer, that honesty and ethic matther anything in Italian football? In Italian football all that always matthered was elbowing opponents not to be chocked by them. Mors tua vita mea.
The honesty and ethic our management is so serious in trying to show is nothing but damaging to the team. We are not respected and this is because we don't make our voice be heard. We simply go ahead and smile. Always. But, as Ale said a couple of years ago, "Bon, bon, te pasa per cojon", meaning that being too good and smiley will result in people thinking that they can do anything to you, cause you'll never react.
Have we ever reacted, since the old management left? *Our own lawyer* asked for a penalized B even though, as also Cobolli finally stated a couple of days ago, there weren't illicits. Not that there was the need to state it. The judge himself said that there aren't illicts proved, but they punished us this way because of a 'clima that didn't convince them fully'.
We sold our players to our future direct opponents, for God's sake! The same players that are making them win these days to the same opponents that sent us in B.
The club retired an appeal to Tar, even though they could have won it (the president of that court had implied over and over again he would have been more than happy to put Federcalcio in its place) and even though they had associations of Juventini that depended on that appeal, cause they had appealed themself 'ad adiuvandum'.
Why is tar so important? No, not just for the scudetti, but cause the club would have gotten a payback for the damages of this summer. Money, for crying out loud, money at the moment we don't have. There's even more: not appealing (to get 8 points back, let's not forget) we gave our approval to be called thieves and cheaters. That's what we did. We said ourselves we deserved punishment and this is exactly what we are getting.
We shouldn't also foget that Tar wasn't the only road we could take, to put everyone in their place, at least on a sportive/ethical point of view. There was, and still is, TAS, the European sportive court. Why aren't we appealing? Why? Because probably to the management (or better, to the owners) things are good the way they are. Surely they are good to those who, starting from this february, started buying and selling Juventus titles, obviously knowing things before they happened.
The Triade didn't react this way to the accusations over the years. They appealed and appealed and won, in the end. What would ha happened if they had given up?
The positive thing is that they still haven't given up and if one day we'll get what is ours back, it'll be thanks to Moggi and to those fans who still are fighting for their lady.

As for Nedved, this is the 6th year I know him as a Juventino and he can be aggressive all you want on the field, but outside he has always been a composed, respectful and responsible person. He never felt the right or the need to protest about a ref or against his own club. Never. Not even when he was given that yellow that made him loose the CL final he had dreamed about his whole life.
Until last season, in the interviews, when asked what was special about Juve, every player answered that here all they had to think about was playing, the club organized everything else and this made performing well and winning much more easier. Now it's not this way anymore. Now a player like Pavel, a Golden ball that accepted to remain in B, let's not forget, has to *ask* the club to defend him. He has to ask and has to bring matthers in his own hands. We are not talking about a spoiled brat here, but about a man -father of 2 children- who worked hard all his life to get what he wished.
And, let me underline this, the fine is not because he left the team without him for 5 matchdays, it's based on a ethical code. Ethical. Nedved is to be fined on his ethic after a punishment that is obviously too harsh itself.
Interesting is also that while Cobolli with one hand appeals, because he doesn't agree with the punishment, with the other he fines the player and lets it be known.


By the way, facts, verdicts, accusations, comments and interviews of experts are all all accessible in internet and have been over-analyzed in these months on many Juventini forums and juventine association's sites. The turnover of the Club is accessible too.
 

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