FIFA Confederations Cup 2009 (38 Viewers)

[Bjerknes]

I don't know if it's better for you.
I can't see you beating Egypt by 3. But if you beat them, even by 1 goal difference, it will mean that Italy qualifies.

So.... if you beat Egypt by 1 or 2 goals difference you'll do a mega favor to the Azzurri.

That is, if we can even come close to beating them. It really depends on Bradley not screwing up.

I'm not familiar enough with Egypt so I don't know how they'll come out against the US, a lesser team than the greats. I doubt they'll sit back as much as they did today though. Either way, we have to take initiative and attack them right away, at least making a good showing.

Perhaps their players have so much hate for the US they'll come out wanting to kill us offensively, thus leaving holes at the back. Or perhaps we'll throw the game for them in return for some shipments of crucial commodities.

 

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[Osman]

I have a feeling that Lippi is playing us here. It doesn't make sense for the man to make these decisions. It's nothing like Lippi at all and I think he's trying to get the pressure off for the World Cup (I suspect he knows Italy aren't that good). I can't say I fully agree with that tactic, but we'll see how it turns out.

Doesnt feesible at all, I know Italy is the country of Macchiavelli, but Lippi isnt purposely duping us with this incompetence. His tactics and selections are bit complacent.

 

[Seven]

That is, if we can even come close to beating them. It really depends on Bradley not screwing up.

I'm not familiar enough with Egypt so I don't know how they'll come out against the US, a lesser team than the greats. I doubt they'll sit back as much as they did today though. Either way, we have to take initiative and attack them right away, at least making a good showing.

Perhaps their players have so much hate for the US they'll come out wanting to kill us offensively, thus leaving holes at the back. Or perhaps we'll throw the game for them in return for some shipments of crucial commodities.

Egypt will strugge a lot against you guys.

 

[Hydde]

Lippi is getting old.

The team he fielded and the sbus were sub par.

No....a good bucnh of the players selected for the tournie just passed their prime.

Luckily there is still time for readjusments till the world cup.

 

[MikeM]

Because deep down he knows Italy suck. And it's not just this generation. The next one isn't good enough. So he's going for a surprise tactic. The Azzurri who will play the first group game in next year's World Cup will be a big surprise to everyone. And Cassano will be among them.

If he knew we sucked then he wouldn't have returned to coach.

 

[Seven]

Doesnt feesible at all, I know Italy is the country of Macchiavelli, but Lippi isnt purposely duping us with this incompetence. His tactics and selections are bit complacent.

They are. And he knows that.

 

[Alen]

I love the reasoning.

Those who are called are weak, those who aren't called are much better.
But when those who were't called will finally be called, it will turn out that they are awful too and those who weren't called would have added much more than those who were called.

And so on and so on.

I'm not talking about Cassano and Del Piero. Those two would have certainly added quality. But people were calling for Montolivo in the past, now they're calling for Pazzini, Marchisio, Motta, Criscito...

Just face it. Italians have a huge problem and they don't even have quality youth.

I mean, Fabregas, Silva, Messi, Aguero, Pato, Sergio Ramos, Benzema are the same age, or younger, as those "super talents" that will "save Italy"...Rossi, De Ceglie, Bocchetti, Motta, Marchisio, Cigarini, or even Giovinco.

The Azzurri are in deep shit! There is no quality.

 

[Bjerknes]

No, I believe he has selected a team that won't feature in the World Cup. Gattuso will not play. Neither will Toni nor will Pepe. Half the team will be different next year. I'm not saying I agree with this tactic, but it is what he's doing. There's no other explanation. The silly changes are nothing like Lippi.

Lippi has been using Pepe throughout the qualifiers.

And you have no proof he's actually doing what you say he is.

 

[Seven]

If he knew we sucked then he wouldn't have returned to coach.

Once you win a World Cup in Italy, you have to kill four babies before people can even begin to think of you as a moron. Not winning another World Cup doesn't matter.

 

[Ventus]

Because deep down he knows Italy suck. And it's not just this generation.

wtf ?

what kind of manager would play a weaken team because the first team is crap ?

Face it lippi got his selection wrong, simple as.

 

[Hust]

I love the reasoning.

Those who are called are weak, those who aren't called are much better.
But when those who were't called will finally be called, it will turn out that they are awful too and those who weren't called would have added much more than those who were called.

And so on and so on.

I'm not talking about Cassano and Del Piero. Those two would have certainly added quality. But people were calling for Montolivo in the past, now they're calling for Pazzini, Marchisio, Motta, Criscito...

Just face it. Italians have a huge problem and they don't even have quality youth.

I mean, Fabregas, Silva, Messi, Aguero, Pato, Sergio Ramos, Benzema are the same age, or younger, as those "super talents" that will "save Italy"...Rossi, De Ceglie, Bocchetti, Motta, Marchisio, Cigarini, or even Giovinco.

The Azzurri are in deep shit! There is no quality.

 

[Seven]

I love the reasoning.

Those who are called are weak, those who aren't called are much better.
But when those who were't called will finally be called, it will turn out that they are awful too and those who weren't called would have added much more than those who were called.

And so on and so on.

I'm not talking about Cassano and Del Piero. Those two would have certainly added quality. But people were calling for Montolivo in the past, now they're calling for Pazzini, Marchisio, Motta, Criscito...

Just face it. Italians have a huge problem and they don't even have quality youth.

I mean, Fabregas, Silva, Messi, Aguero, Pato, Sergio Ramos, Benzema are the same age as those "super talents" that will "save Italy"...Rossi, De Ceglie, Bocchetti, Motta, Marchisio, Cigarini, or even Giovinco.

The Azzurri are in deep shit! There is no quality.

I agree. There is little to no quality. And Lippi knows this.

Lippi has been using Pepe throughout the qualifiers.

And you have no proof he's actually doing what you say he is.

No, I don't. I didn't say I did. I'm just telling you right now that the team that will play the first game next year will surprise the world. And Cassano will be in it.

 

[Azzurri7]

The more I think about it, the more I know Lippi is doing this on purpose. Both Cassano AND Del Piero will feature in the World Cup. Mark my words. I'm saying this a full YEAR before the World Cup, but they will play.

Whether or not this is a good thing I don't know. But Lippi is hiding.

I remember you were the first one predicting Ale to be in the WC06, you were spot on obviously.

If this prediction will have the same outcome as the previous one, then you're my fav ever member and a Juventuz legend to me.

No, I believe he has selected a team that won't feature in the World Cup. Gattuso will not play. Neither will Toni nor will Pepe. Half the team will be different next year. I'm not saying I agree with this tactic, but it is what he's doing. There's no other explanation. The silly changes are nothing like Lippi.

This probably makes sense. You trying to say that he selected some players to feature in this tournament because he wont be selecting them next year and he's doing this not to be unfair to many several players right?

 

[Seven]

wtf ?

what kind of manager would play a weaken team because the first team is crap ?

Face it lippi got his selection wrong, simple as.

A manager who cares more about the World Cup than about the Confederations Cup.

 

[KB824]

What bothers me more than anything is the lack of young, world class type defenders on this squad,or throughout Italy.

 

[HAZEM]

That is, if we can even come close to beating them. It really depends on Bradley not screwing up.

I'm not familiar enough with Egypt so I don't know how they'll come out against the US, a lesser team than the greats. I doubt they'll sit back as much as they did today though. Either way, we have to take initiative and attack them right away, at least making a good showing.

Perhaps their players have so much hate for the US they'll come out wanting to kill us offensively, thus leaving holes at the back. Or perhaps we'll throw the game for them in return for some shipments of crucial commodities.

I saw your team today if u guys play a fast ball not like italy or brazil did with Egypt ur chances will be high....

 

[Ventus]

italy do have young talent, but half arejust not being used;

1) rossi
2) giovinco
3) balotali
4) motta
5) pazzini (considered young for italians)
6) santon
7) chelini (yes he plays, but he's hardly old)
8) Marchisio

i can see another golden era, as long as the potential isnt destroyed

 

[Bjerknes]

I love the reasoning.

Those who are called are weak, those who aren't called are much better.
But when those who were't called will finally be called, it will turn out that they are awful too and those who weren't called would have added much more than those who were called.

And so on and so on.

I'm not talking about Cassano and Del Piero. Those two would have certainly added quality. But people were calling for Montolivo in the past, now they're calling for Pazzini, Marchisio, Motta, Criscito...

Just face it. Italians have a huge problem and they don't even have quality youth.

I mean, Fabregas, Silva, Messi, Aguero, Pato, Sergio Ramos, Benzema are the same age, or younger, as those "super talents" that will "save Italy"...Rossi, De Ceglie, Bocchetti, Motta, Marchisio, Cigarini, or even Giovinco.

The Azzurri are in deep shit! There is no quality.

Agreed. Marchisio wouldn't add much to this team either.

I think Lippi is just trying to see if he can squeeze one more World Cup out of their top players. Doesn't seem too likely though.

 

[Seven]

I remember you were the first one predicting Ale to be in the WC06, you were spot on obviously.

If this prediction will have the same outcome as the previous one, then you're my fav ever member and a Juventuz legend to me.



This probably makes sense. You trying to say that he selected some players to feature in this tournament because he wont be selecting them next year and he's doing this not to be unfair to many several players right?

That too is a factor. Lippi knows that most of those players are too old. But he wants to show this to the world and he doesn't want to cut them straight away. It would be disrespectful. As for Ale, I think he left him out to show that Italy doesn't have much quality. If there's no real talent, you have to get Ale, even if he's 35.

 

[Salvatore]

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BTW am I the only one who thinks that the 4-3-3 doesn't suit Italy?

I don't think it does either, we don't have the right players.

With the players now, I have no idea. If Cassano was called up, then 4-3-2-1.