FIFA Confederations Cup 2009 (25 Viewers)

[pitbull]

What is the difference between Seven and all the other non-Italians being Italy sympathizers (or however you want to put it) and Andy and the other folk who wanted Barca to win the CL because of their 'good football'?

The reasons behind the supporting. I don't support the strongest NT at the moment to make fun of England if they beat the shit out of british "lions" and i'll support them even when they play bad, because i like the nation, the food, the people, the serie a, the players playing for Italy and so on. But i can easily see Andy cheering for Lyon in next season semis if the other three teams are english and Barca got's eliminated by pragmatic side.

 

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[Red]

The reasons behind the supporting. I don't support the strongest NT at the moment to make fun of England if they beat the shit out of british "lions" and i'll support them even when they play bad, because i like the nation, the food, the people, the serie a, the players playing for Italy and so on. But i can easily see Andy cheering for Lyon in next season semis if the other three teams are english and Barca got's eliminated by pragmatic side.

I'm not suggesting that either side is right or wrong.

I'm merely wondering which of you is the pot and which is the kettle...

 

[Byrone]

I dont like Barca but i dsipise man utd even more,so yeah i chose the lesser of two evils.

 

[Red]

I dont like Barca but i dsipise man utd even more,so yeah i chose the lesser of two evils.

That's different.

There were people who started wanting Barca to win pretty much as soon as Juve went out and they cited Barca's 'good football' as the reason.

 

[icemaη]

The return of the 'Good football' argument This forum has a funny way of going round in circles

 

[pitbull]

I'm not suggesting that either side is right or wrong.

I'm merely wondering which of you is the pot and which is the kettle...

well you wanted the difference, i gave it to you. i didn't say that andy is a bad boy

 

[icemaη]

btw I supported Barca so that I didn't have to see my best friend rejoice again with a ManU victory

 

[Red]

The return of the 'Good football' argument This forum has a funny way of going round in circles

The juventuz merry-go-round.

well you wanted the difference, i gave it to you. i didn't say that andy is a bad boy

So is liking a country's culture a better reason to support it than liking a club's footballing style?

 

[Red]

btw I supported Barca so that I didn't have to see my best friend rejoice again with a ManU victory

Like I said to Byrone, it's different when it is just for one game and you have no real allegiance to either side involved.

 

[pitbull]

The juventuz merry-go-round.



So is liking a country's culture a better reason to support it than liking a club's footballing style?

It's definetly more consistent reason, i don't know if better. Though the tactics of Italy or better said the english fans opinion about the tactics of Italy had the impact on my sympathies too

 

[bianconero]

I might actually start siding with the English if this absurdity from Azzurri fans continues. It's incredibly strange, but many English fans have a point when it comes to Azzurri fanboys. I wouldn't have ever bought their propaganda, but what they're selling is far better than that of some of you and your counterparts from other parts of the globe.

Do you think anyone really cares what a Mock-fan thinks or who they support?

No!

 

[aoshimy]

Of course. But Andy's a fascist who thinks that you have to scream stuff about your own nation no matter what. Doesn't matter who is playing, he just shouts U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A! I find that a bit weird. I also find it a bit weird that this fascist tells people what they can and what they can't like.

You can't blame them though. This whole patriotism, nationalistic, flag bullshit is very common among Americans. No wonder they elected Bush twice! He preached patriotism! For me and many other fans of anything, passion transcends those man-made borders.

 

[bianconero]

And why would that be?

You are an true American.

 

[aoshimy]

Do you think anyone really cares what a Mock-fan thinks or who they support?

No!

There is no such thing as a "mock-fan". You support whom you support, and sympathize with whoever you want to sympathize with.

 

[Martin]

There is no such thing as a "mock-fan". You support whom you support, and sympathize with whoever you want to sympathize with.

correct

 

[v1rtu4l]

So is liking a country's culture a better reason to support it than liking a club's footballing style?

yes, because the footballing style of a club may change and if you change your favourite team based on that you are nothing less than a glory hunter (on an asthetic level).


i am not a friend of this whole local patriotism thing... i do not support any german team and neither do i support the team of my city ... i say "if they play crap, then they play crap" ... no need to go into the stadium to see them play just because i know they are from my city.

calling any italian supporter a glory hunter would be pretty strange, since after those really dull displays in euro2008 you have to be a real fan to still stand by that team.

 

[Red]

yes, because the footballing style of a club may change and if you change your favourite team based on that you are nothing less than a glory hunter (on an asthetic level).

calling any italian supporter a glory hunter would be pretty strange, since after those really dull displays in euro2008 you have to be a real fan to still stand by that team.

Oh yeah.

A big round of applause to those die-hard fans that stuck by 'their' team in the dark days of only making it to a quarter final while being world champions.

i am not a friend of this whole local patriotism thing... i do not support any german team and neither do i support the team of my city ... i say "if they play crap, then they play crap" ... no need to go into the stadium to see them play just because i know they are from my city.

I can never agree with this.

 

[Seven]

What is the difference between Seven and all the other non-Italians being Italy sympathizers (or however you want to put it) and Andy and the other folk who wanted Barca to win the CL because of their 'good football'?

No, that discussion was about Barcelona fans like Maher and a couple of others. If people want Barcelona to win because they like them, I have no problem with that. It's not the same as being a diehard fan though. And I'm not a diehard Italy fan either. In fact, the only team I truly support is Juventus.

 

[Red]

If people want Barcelona to win because they like them, I have no problem with that.

Exactly.

So why do some people (Andy) feel it is fine to want Barca to win, but then feels it is fine to be abusive to non-Italian Italy fans?

 

[Byrone]

I can never agree with this.

This is exactly why smaller teams can never get anywhere especially with that kinda attitude.