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Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Man, I really am starting to believe all Italian Americans think the same way when it comes to international football. From the discussions I've been having on Facebook, they all called the game the same way, even those who claim they support both sides. "Italy deserved the result 3-1, Altidore took a dive, Bornstein's own goal should have stood, and Clark's red was just."

I'm sorry, Pado, Serge and Vinni. These guys give you lot quite the bad name. They don't support the USMNT, but instead just use it as cover for their Azzurri support.

It's funny how one's true colors come out when their teams play one another.
 
Sep 1, 2002
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Man, I really am starting to believe all Italian Americans think the same way when it comes to international football. From the discussions I've been having on Facebook, they all called the game the same way, even those who claim they support both sides. "Italy deserved the result 3-1, Altidore took a dive, Bornstein's own goal should have stood, and Clark's red was just."

I'm sorry, Pado, Serge and Vinni. These guys give you lot quite the bad name. They don't support the USMNT, but instead just use it as cover for their Azzurri support.

It's funny how one's true colors come out when their teams play one another.
America just showed what everyone already knew, that they are third rate.

Good for the Italian Americans for holding on to their identity and not following the sheep.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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You don't have to jump. It's nothing in the rules. You merely have to make an attempt to play the ball, which by moving towards it he did. Legrottaglie chose to stumble into him and it should have been another penalty and in the EPL it might have been one.
He didn't make an attempt. He tried to shield the ball and obstructed Legro. It was very obvious.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Can't you just support T&T? Do you HAVE to have another team to support? Why don't you support Spain or some other big nation while you're at it, just in case Italy bows out?

I just can't respect this, I'm sorry. It's what we call a cop-out here. And considering you'd take T&T over the Azzurri if they play each other, that means your support for one team falls through, which doesn't make you a real fan, IMO. So you're not.

You can support whomever you want, though. Just don't think people have to respect you for it. In fact, people shouldn't respect it, because you let one team down for the sake of another -- a country you've never been a part of.

And don't bring club football into this as it makes you look extremely ridiculous. Club football and national football are entirely two different things. Players don't need citizenship to play for a club team.
I think you're taking this "support" thing a bit too far. I'd rather call it sympathy. I like Italy. I don't support them the way Italians do though. You won't see me holding an Italian flag or chanting the national anthem FFS.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,244
I think you're taking this "support" thing a bit too far. I'd rather call it sympathy. I like Italy. I don't support them the way Italians do though. You won't see me holding an Italian flag or chanting the national anthem FFS.
Sympathy? What is this, some sort of pity-party?

If people really think that way, then they need to grow up.
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,177
I don't want to generalize, but there is an obvious trend I have come to realize rears its ugly head when it comes to sports. Throughout my observations, I have noticed that many Americans, just like the English, are sore losers and lack objectivity when it comes to their teams, whether it be in the domestic or international arena.

Take the Olympics for example. If the Americans lose in gymnastics, it's because the Chinese were cheating by using underage girls; if they lose in Athletics, it's cuz the Jamaicans were on drugs! When Serena Williams loses in tennis, it's always cuz she didn't try hard enough. Not once has she praised her opponent. Disgusting, lame, and pathetic really.

As for the English, you never hear the end of it when it comes to football/soccer. The refs were against us, the heat killed us, Rooney's shoes were one size too small, blah blah blah, and the list goes on. Don't get me even started when it comes to defending their clubs, as I could write a book about that!
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,244
I don't want to generalize, but there is an obvious trend I have come to realize rears its ugly head when it comes to sports. Throughout my observations, I have noticed that many Americans, just like the English, are sore losers and lack objectivity when it comes to their teams, whether it be in the domestic or international arena.

Take the Olympics for example. If the Americans lose in gymnastics, it's because the Chinese were cheating by using underage girls; if they lose in Athletics, it's cuz the Jamaicans were on drugs! When Serena Williams loses in tennis, it's always cuz she didn't try hard enough. Not once has she praised her opponent. Disgusting, lame, and pathetic really.

As for the English, you never hear the end of it when it comes to football/soccer. The refs were against us, the heat killed us, Rooney's shoes were one size too small, blah blah blah, and the list goes on. Don't get me even started when it comes to defending their clubs, as I could write a book about that!
Well, congrats because you just indeed generalized.

1) The Chinese girls were indeed underage. That was actually proven by their own government FFS.
2) I didn't hear any chatter about the Jamaicans. Everyone knows they're top notch.
3) I heard more about Serena being overweight than not trying, which is probably the case. Perhaps she didn't praise her opponent, but neither did many a athletes.
4) Stick to stuff you have more knowledge on, like the NBA.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,244
I might actually start siding with the English if this absurdity from Azzurri fans continues. It's incredibly strange, but many English fans have a point when it comes to Azzurri fanboys. :shocked: I wouldn't have ever bought their propaganda, but what they're selling is far better than that of some of you and your counterparts from other parts of the globe.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,347
Well, congrats because you just indeed generalized.

1) The Chinese girls were indeed underage. That was actually proven by their own government FFS.
2) I didn't hear any chatter about the Jamaicans. Everyone knows they're top notch.
3) I heard more about Serena being overweight than not trying, which is probably the case. Perhaps she didn't praise her opponent, but neither did many a athletes.
4) Stick to stuff you have more knowledge on, like the NBA.
Apart from the Chinese girls, which was a scandal TBH, he's got a point, Andy. It's something I've seen a lot of American athletes do.
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,177
Come on Andy. Try to be objective. There are many great American athletes, but there are also a batch of sore losers who can't accept defeat and confuse it with being competitive. Same thing goes for some of your fans. Please don't tell me you are blind or oblivious to that; I am pretty sure you see it in your everyday life, whether it be in an argument involving baseball, the NHL, the NBA, the NFL, or international sports.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,244
Apart from the Chinese girls, which was a scandal TBH, he's got a point, Andy. It's something I've seen a lot of American athletes do.
Give examples.

But I can't help but think you're just saying this because it's the USA vs. Italy in soccer. Truth be told, you have a lot to do in gaining my respect when it comes to arguments like these. I frankly don't believe you because I know you're a snake.
 

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