Federico Chiesa (56 Viewers)
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Right, every penny does count. And as such, placement in the table and every Champions League win is more vital than ever because it'll mean more money. We can't afford to bench our best players because we might have to actually see contracts to completion. Look at our mercato now, could you imagine if we missed out on CL spots? I don't even want to think about it.
This is a tired argument thrown around here and I won't be entertaining it. Look at all the clubs that came for De Ligt, lot of good that did us and then Bayern.
This is a tired argument thrown around here and I won't be entertaining it. Look at all the clubs that came for De Ligt, lot of good that did us and then Bayern.
They're literally using the same tactic as the Allegri throaters. "Just give him a chance, season hasn't started. If things don't start turning around in February I will change. It's OK he won a Scudetto before, there's always next season but we have no money" as we sell Yildiz to fund Ivan Provedel.
You guys call names and make fun of our ds, make fun of people, and now play victim, lol. Surprise after surprise.
Who said you can't write anything before season start, lol. People said wait for season start before judge. And just for that you go around and make fun of them
Who said you can't write anything before season start, lol. People said wait for season start before judge. And just for that you go around and make fun of them
like for example if i told guintoli don't sell mckennie. wait for season to start and let him play before judging if he should be sold.
is that acceptable or no?
Yes. It's perfectly fine because it's your opinion. And Giuntoli can have his own opinion too. Respect other opinions, but do what you deem right. The result on the field will answer who may be right or wrong.
But it's another matter if you insult Giuntoli for having a different opinion with you. Say he will definitely fail because he doesn't do things you like. Then, I call this unfair.
But it's another matter if you insult Giuntoli for having a different opinion with you. Say he will definitely fail because he doesn't do things you like. Then, I call this unfair.
I can understand why management want to offload him
- he is in big salary (9,26m base + 1.85m bonus) = 11,11m gross
- he is in his final year of his contract > book value of 15m
- his output (goal contributions), especially after he injured, can easily be matched by someone with third or half of his salary. Someone like Nico Gonzales probably will cost us around 5-6m gross per year
Our plan A is to sell him to Roma for 20m, but he refused. If he accept that offer, we will probably keep Soule (in Juve or loan him out to increase his value even more) and get Sancho on loan with Weah as the backup. If this plan really happened we probably will give Soule contract extention with around 2,5m salary and loan him probably to club like Fiorentina to get European experience (reason #1) and that kind of salary, they still can afford it (reason #2). And we will sell him after this season to fund Sancho, or to keep him and not take Sancho option based on their performance this season
After Chiesa refused, then we sell Soule instead, why :
- high plusvalenza total of 22.4m
- he ask for higher salary, his salary increase from 560k per season gross > 3.7m base + 930k bonuses = 4.63m in total (first team salary)
- he want guarantees as first team player
- we need cashflow to keep pursuing our main target Koopmeiners
That is why, right now we dont go for straight when we bid for Nico Gonzalez, because most of the money still allocate to get Koopmeiners
I am content if we can get Koopmeiners, Nico Gonzalez and another winger that can play as striker
- he is in big salary (9,26m base + 1.85m bonus) = 11,11m gross
- he is in his final year of his contract > book value of 15m
- his output (goal contributions), especially after he injured, can easily be matched by someone with third or half of his salary. Someone like Nico Gonzales probably will cost us around 5-6m gross per year
Our plan A is to sell him to Roma for 20m, but he refused. If he accept that offer, we will probably keep Soule (in Juve or loan him out to increase his value even more) and get Sancho on loan with Weah as the backup. If this plan really happened we probably will give Soule contract extention with around 2,5m salary and loan him probably to club like Fiorentina to get European experience (reason #1) and that kind of salary, they still can afford it (reason #2). And we will sell him after this season to fund Sancho, or to keep him and not take Sancho option based on their performance this season
After Chiesa refused, then we sell Soule instead, why :
- high plusvalenza total of 22.4m
- he ask for higher salary, his salary increase from 560k per season gross > 3.7m base + 930k bonuses = 4.63m in total (first team salary)
- he want guarantees as first team player
- we need cashflow to keep pursuing our main target Koopmeiners
That is why, right now we dont go for straight when we bid for Nico Gonzalez, because most of the money still allocate to get Koopmeiners
I am content if we can get Koopmeiners, Nico Gonzalez and another winger that can play as striker
and this is why the last thing you want to do is reward the player by allowing him to play and gain more "trafic" and when the season is over you left empty handed.
in both cases you lose him for free so why not find replacement that you can count on right now and maybe in the process you will make him change his mind and come begging for renewal ?
there is also the bigger picture here, what message will it send to other players ?
if, a big if, the case was about a great talent, someone with a proven record maybe it was worth the risk,
but for someone so inconsistence, moody and not so much of star it would be pure irresponsibility.
in both cases you lose him for free so why not find replacement that you can count on right now and maybe in the process you will make him change his mind and come begging for renewal ?
there is also the bigger picture here, what message will it send to other players ?
if, a big if, the case was about a great talent, someone with a proven record maybe it was worth the risk,
but for someone so inconsistence, moody and not so much of star it would be pure irresponsibility.
am i reading this right?
members here worried that if juve plays him and he does so well that other teams come after him, he will leave.
what if... and this will blow your minds. what if then juve offers him a contract that matches what he wants at that point instead of letting him leave for free.
or is no one alllowed to earn more money at juve?
members here worried that if juve plays him and he does so well that other teams come after him, he will leave.
what if... and this will blow your minds. what if then juve offers him a contract that matches what he wants at that point instead of letting him leave for free.
or is no one alllowed to earn more money at juve?
