Federico Bernardeschi - AM RLC - Fiorentina (14 Viewers)

Status
Not open for further replies.

Robee

Senior Member
Jun 21, 2011
7,006
Pace and dribbling. Pjaca is better than Bernardeschi. So again, in which areas Bernardeschi excel our current attack?.
If you have seen a playmaker in our squad with the skills Bernardeschi has, notify me. And btw, I mean that as an CAM, not Pjanic. Pjanic' passing is magnificent.
 

Salvo

J
Moderator
Dec 17, 2007
62,796
Pace and dribbling. Pjaca is better than Bernardeschi. So again, in which areas Bernardeschi excel our current attack?

- - - Updated - - -



Cuz 50m is way too much for such a gamble. Bernar has showed nothing to deserve that cost

This is the kind of overprice we see all the time teams like City and Liverpool paid for their gambles. Sometimes you get a Sane, in other you get a Sterling or a Firmino.
Bernie is the opposite of Pjaca
 
Aug 2, 2005
4,420
Del Piero AND Buffon want him here? How could anyone think this is a bad move at this point?
yes exactly.
I dont think anyone here think it is a bad move, guys here have this thing on the price.
they can accept 40 but not 50.
I remember watching this guy play for Italy last year and thinking he was great and it was a shame that he belonged to $#@!y Fiorentina and therefore had no chance of signing him because they don't sell to us. What stuck out was how young and raw he is with potential. I'm all for it.
yes. he has so much potential.
i HOPE this potential be materialized into a top great player.
i believe in it.
 

duranfj

Senior Member
Jul 30, 2015
8,799
If you have seen a playmaker in our squad with the skills Bernardeschi has, notify me. And btw, I mean that as an CAM, not Pjanic. Pjanic' passing is magnificent.
When we brought Hernanes noone in the squad have the skills he had, specially how he shoot with both leg from middle distance so?

Lets see against our current attack: holding the ball (Dybala and Pipa r better), FK (Dybala is better), mid distance shot (Dybala and Pipa r better), dribbling (JGC and Pjaca r better), header (Mandzo and Pipa r better), Pace (JGC and Pjaca r better), pass (Mandzo is better), workrate (Mandzo is better)...

I'm saying Bernar doesn't excel in any aspect of the game so far and he's not a youngster so we r doing a gamble and I'm ok with It but for 50m is a WTF.

- - - Updated - - -

Bernie is the opposite of Pjaca
I know. Someone says he's gonna come here and show us his "talent" and I asked exactly which was cuz so far I can see a good player but without any special characteristic and to point that out that I started to compare with our team and Bernar isn't better in any aspect of the game that our current attack, everyone here have some specialties and Bernar doesn't have any.

I suppose we aren't paying 50m for the current player he is cuz he doesn't worth It at all but for the player he could be and honestly I think so far he doesn't show anything that tells me that he's gonna help us to even mantain our current top clubs spot in the future much less in the present
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
Bernie is the opposite of Pjaca
Duran is wrong on this one and even when berna has not shown to be a world beater in the biggest stage, Duran i think is heavily underestimating him.

By starters, and coming from someone who is a fan of Pjaca, not IMO they are not the same.

Pjaca seems to be more about dribblings, getting into the box and shooting. Bernardeschi is heavily oriented to pass the ball to assist. He seems to be the kind of players who makes quick decitions when in poseesion and organize play.

Pjaca in our shirt seemed hesitant and sometimes confused on what to do. Those are not traits of a playmaker.

And even this said, i hope people do not undermine Pjaca either. Some are being way too fast in judging him, and he seems to have talent. Let him recover.
 

Roman

-'Tuz Fantasy Master-
Apr 19, 2003
10,778
Duran is wrong on this one and even when berna has not shown to be a world beater in the biggest stage, Duran i think is heavily underestimating him.

By starters, and coming from someone who is a fan of Pjaca, not IMO they are not the same.

Pjaca seems to be more about dribblings, getting into the box and shooting. Bernardeschi is heavily oriented to pass the ball to assist. He seems to be the kind of players who makes quick decitions when in poseesion and organize play.

Pjaca in our shirt seemed hesitant and sometimes confused on what to do. Those are not traits of a playmaker.

And even this said, i hope people do not undermine Pjaca either. Some are being way too fast in judging him, and he seems to have talent. Let him recover.
Exactly.
They are completely different.
Berna plays in a much more intelegent way.true playmaker.
Great ball control,amazing left foot.
He really can become something special.

Pjaca doing everything based on his dribble and speed but not taking the best decision most of the time,from what we have seen so far.
But Marko has the potential and hopefully he'll be good for us.
 

Robee

Senior Member
Jun 21, 2011
7,006
When we brought Hernanes noone in the squad have the skills he had, specially how he shoot with both leg from middle distance so?

Lets see against our current attack: holding the ball (Dybala and Pipa r better), FK (Dybala is better), mid distance shot (Dybala and Pipa r better), dribbling (JGC and Pjaca r better), header (Mandzo and Pipa r better), Pace (JGC and Pjaca r better), pass (Mandzo is better), workrate (Mandzo is better)...

I'm saying Bernar doesn't excel in any aspect of the game so far and he's not a youngster so we r doing a gamble and I'm ok with It but for 50m is a WTF.

- - - Updated - - -



I know. Someone says he's gonna come here and show us his "talent" and I asked exactly which was cuz so far I can see a good player but without any special characteristic and to point that out that I started to compare with our team and Bernar isn't better in any aspect of the game that our current attack, everyone here have some specialties and Bernar doesn't have any.

I suppose we aren't paying 50m for the current player he is cuz he doesn't worth It at all but for the player he could be and honestly I think so far he doesn't show anything that tells me that he's gonna help us to even mantain our current top clubs spot in the future much less in the present
The comparison between a declining Hernanes and a youngster (yes, at 23 we can use that term) like Bernardeschi is laughable at best. The same can be said about rating Mandzukic' passing higher. That wasn't serious, I hope? Otherwise you just found our new playmaker.

That's not mentioning the impact he has in games. He controls the tempo excellently but of course he can and should still improve.
 

Salvo

J
Moderator
Dec 17, 2007
62,796
Different doesnt mean either one is less or more talented

Pjaca is more of an athlete but he is quite skillful, Bernie is more a classic number 10 but in a bigger body
 

duranfj

Senior Member
Jul 30, 2015
8,799
Duran is wrong on this one and even when berna has not shown to be a world beater in the biggest stage, Duran i think is heavily underestimating him.

By starters, and coming from someone who is a fan of Pjaca, not IMO they are not the same.

Pjaca seems to be more about dribblings, getting into the box and shooting. Bernardeschi is heavily oriented to pass the ball to assist. He seems to be the kind of players who makes quick decitions when in poseesion and organize play.

Pjaca in our shirt seemed hesitant and sometimes confused on what to do. Those are not traits of a playmaker.

And even this said, i hope people do not undermine Pjaca either. Some are being way too fast in judging him, and he seems to have talent. Let him recover.
I'm saying Berna hasn't any skillsets better than our current players in the same each one of them we know what we can expect form them and they could even compete in the level we wanna be: top 4. At the end we r overpaying him only cuz his a rat player and italian "#10", I can't see other season for the price

- - - Updated - - -

The comparison between a declining Hernanes and a youngster (yes, at 23 we can use that term) like Bernardeschi is laughable at best. The same can be said about rating Mandzukic' passing higher. That wasn't serious, I hope? Otherwise you just found our new playmaker.

That's not mentioning the impact he has in games. He controls the tempo excellently but of course he can and should still improve.
Mandzo is one of the best passing the ball in our team. That's why we look for him everytime we wanna break the presure line with a long pass cuz he can control the ball and open space with some nice touch. He's not grateful so people usted to understimated those aspects of his game

I said Hernanes cuz he was an AM and we didn't have anyone like him but it doesn't mean anything if he doesn't bring better options than our current attack and I'm not so sure Berna is gonna give us that so 50m is too much for a gamble....and he's 23 so I don't know how much he would grow up from his current level
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 12)