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Serie A @ -10 to -15 would be "reasonable" (for lack of a better term) in the sense that relegation would be realistically easy to avoid. That's what I meant with my "wishful-thinking" post, earlier.
But -30 is an entirely different ball-game...our points tally would supposedly have to become positive before the ritorno phase. Don't forget there are tough matches out there, key players have left, Deschamps is taking on a new role. Would be quite risky.
I've accepted the whole Serie B thing a while back. Indeed it is a shitty feeling, hell, I dunno if I'm gonna be able to watch Juve on TV
But I like to look at the glass half full - we have a new coach who is attack-minded, has a decent group of players including some youngsters from the youth team, and it's a new chapter in our team history.
I supported this club since 1993...there's no Serie B, C, D that's going to make me change my mind whatsoever.
I have absolutely no doubt that we'll become a force to be reckoned within 2-3 years time.
FORZA JUVE!! :toast:
But -30 is an entirely different ball-game...our points tally would supposedly have to become positive before the ritorno phase. Don't forget there are tough matches out there, key players have left, Deschamps is taking on a new role. Would be quite risky.
I've accepted the whole Serie B thing a while back. Indeed it is a shitty feeling, hell, I dunno if I'm gonna be able to watch Juve on TV
But I like to look at the glass half full - we have a new coach who is attack-minded, has a decent group of players including some youngsters from the youth team, and it's a new chapter in our team history.
I supported this club since 1993...there's no Serie B, C, D that's going to make me change my mind whatsoever.
I have absolutely no doubt that we'll become a force to be reckoned within 2-3 years time.
FORZA JUVE!! :toast:
do u know where we can buy one, cuz ill buy about 1000, pin them on a jacket it'll wind those bandwagon fans, ooh i so cannot wait till tues to see inter get beaten by watford, hurling missiles at inter alla dida at the likes of mancio give him the middle finger, sing abusive anti inter songs with my hand on my juventus maglia
it'll wind those bandwagon fans, ooh i so cannot wait till tues to see inter get beaten by watford, hurling missiles at inter alla dida at the likes of mancio give him the middle finger, sing abusive anti inter songs with my hand on my juventus maglia 
If we stay in serie-A with -30 points, i think, our main objective is to stay out of relegation zone. I agree with you, European zone is very optimistic target. It's very hard to get.
But i will satisfy if we finish 15th in the table, whick means that we miss European competition another year. But this is surely a better situation than we play in serie-B.
But i will satisfy if we finish 15th in the table, whick means that we miss European competition another year. But this is surely a better situation than we play in serie-B.
Rhizoid said:
Serie A @ -10 to -15 would be "reasonable" (for lack of a better term) in the sense that relegation would be realistically easy to avoid. That's what I meant with my "wishful-thinking" post, earlier.
But -30 is an entirely different ball-game...our points tally would supposedly have to become positive before the ritorno phase. Don't forget there are tough matches out there, key players have left, Deschamps is taking on a new role. Would be quite risky.
I've accepted the whole Serie B thing a while back. Indeed it is a shitty feeling, hell, I dunno if I'm gonna be able to watch Juve on TV
But I like to look at the glass half full - we have a new coach who is attack-minded, has a decent group of players including some youngsters from the youth team, and it's a new chapter in our team history.
I supported this club since 1993...there's no Serie B, C, D that's going to make me change my mind whatsoever.
I have absolutely no doubt that we'll become a force to be reckoned within 2-3 years time.
FORZA JUVE!! :toast:
But -30 is an entirely different ball-game...our points tally would supposedly have to become positive before the ritorno phase. Don't forget there are tough matches out there, key players have left, Deschamps is taking on a new role. Would be quite risky.
I've accepted the whole Serie B thing a while back. Indeed it is a shitty feeling, hell, I dunno if I'm gonna be able to watch Juve on TV
But I like to look at the glass half full - we have a new coach who is attack-minded, has a decent group of players including some youngsters from the youth team, and it's a new chapter in our team history.
I supported this club since 1993...there's no Serie B, C, D that's going to make me change my mind whatsoever.
I have absolutely no doubt that we'll become a force to be reckoned within 2-3 years time.
FORZA JUVE!! :toast:
Ok, we are not as strong as we were last year. But we are still Juventus. And with this current squad: Buffon, Chiellini, Balza, Tudor, Kovac (or Legro), Zanetti, Gianni, Nedved, Marchionni, Olivera, Kappo, Bojinov, Del Piero, Palladino etc...
Technically, we can say that we only deteriorate than milan, inter, and roma, same level with fio, i think. That mean we can finish 4 or 5 excluding 30 points deduction.
If we look at last season league table, we get:
1. Juve, 91 points
2. Milan, 88
3. Inter, 76
4. Fio, 74
5. Roma, 69
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15. Reggina, 41
16. Cagliari, 39
17. Siena, 39
18. Messina , 31
19. Lecce, 29
20. Treviso, 21
If we finish 4 or 5, we can get around 70 points, minus 30 points dedustion, we still can get 40 points at the end, or around 15 at the table.
What if playing in serie A with a 30 point defeciency with a dismantled team like we have now, would result in not exceeding the 30 point mark, which most probably mean our relegation....We might be just postponing our relegation, instead of biting the bullet and play in B and get back to A with no deductions.
Vinman said:
its a chance worth taking, because I believe that even with this team, we will be safe even with a 30 point deduction
if I'm wrong, well than we end up in B anyways....
but what if I'm right ??!!
if I'm wrong, well than we end up in B anyways....
but what if I'm right ??!!
who cares ??
will you lose sleep over it if someone calls Juve "cheaters" ??
no matter what happens, they will ALWAYS have something to say about us, so dont kid yourself thinking otherwise
if no one else leaves this team, we could pull off a mid-table finish, even with a 30 point penalty
I cannot compare this team to an infant either...most of our guys have some real Serie A experience, and I think we could shock some ppl
now, all we have to do is get to A !!!
will you lose sleep over it if someone calls Juve "cheaters" ??
no matter what happens, they will ALWAYS have something to say about us, so dont kid yourself thinking otherwise
if no one else leaves this team, we could pull off a mid-table finish, even with a 30 point penalty
I cannot compare this team to an infant either...most of our guys have some real Serie A experience, and I think we could shock some ppl
now, all we have to do is get to A !!!
No I would'nt loose sleep honestly. I had to face so much crap that other day when I went to play a football match with mates at work. All the "cheaters" and the "Serie B Team" comments didn't make me feel any less proud, on the contrary it made me prouder and prouder with every comment. But still I don't want anybody to have anything against us....thats all.
Anyways we have to wait and see...
Anyways we have to wait and see...
100% agree with you!!
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