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Oct 23, 2011
3,666
The club is just not ambitious enough. No one in their right mind thinks our roster as is is good enough to win the CL. The only word class midfielder we have right now is Pjanic, but even he has his head stuck in his ass half of the time. As long as we keep scrapping Scudetti and get knocked out of the quarters or occasional semis they will be satisfied. Purchases like Can, Matuidi, Rabiot, and Ramsey just arent going to cut it. I didnt blame Allegri for his "failure" in the CL because he did more than this team's capable of, so I wont blame Sarri either sometime in March when he gets kicked out the CL. Management might wake up one day when we lose the scudetto to a team that has less resources and is inferior on paper.
 

DanielSz

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Sep 6, 2014
12,283
Garbage.

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So, Is Badass's uncle going to finally address the midfield or is he too stupid to realize that it's nowhere near good enough to compete against quality domestic opposition, let alone European heavyweights?!
Not one world class midfielder since Pogba, Vidal, etc left. Sorry, Pjanic is not world class, not at regista anyway. The others aren’t even close to the discussion. Bentancur has improved, but still wouldn’t start on most top clubs.
 
Apr 17, 2013
3,413
Pjanic and Bentacur the shame list?

Please log off permanently and stay on Lyon forums.
I listed all the players recruited by our sports director.
Sorry to disappoint you but Pjanic he's good player but i find is often over rated by Juve fan (is he in the top 10 of midfielder in Europe ?). Betencour at the beginning of the season was still behind Khedira, he has played 3 good games in a row and becomes as essential player. In a competitive team he is the 4th best midfielder, but at Juve he's 2nd , everything is fine.

Spend by departement (since Vidal's: 1st stage of deconstruction). There is an underinvestment for years in this sector, before we said to ourselves that only real or barca are better but now even in Italy Roma, Lazio, Inter have a better midfield than us.

attack 417.4 M
middfield: 115.2 M
defense: 318.2 M
goalkeepers: 28. M

Paulo Dybala
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Palermo40,00 mio. €

Alex Sandro
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FC Porto26,00 mio. €

Mario Mandzukic
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Atlético Madrid23,40 mio. €

Simone Zaza
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Sassuolo18,00 mio. €

Roberto Pereyra
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Udinese15,00 mio. €

Hernanes
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Inter13,00 mio. €



Gonzalo Higuaín
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Napoli90,00 mio. €

Miralem Pjanic
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AS Roma32,00 mio. €

Marko Pjaca
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Dinamo Zagreb23,00 mio. €

Mario Lemina
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Marseille9,80 mio. €

Tomás Rincón
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Genoa8,00 mio. €



Federico Bernardeschi
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Fiorentina40,00 mio. €

Blaise Matuidi
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Paris SG25,00 mio. €

Juan Cuadrado
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Chelsea20,00 mio. €

Medhi Benatia
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Bayern München16,70 mio. €

Rodrigo Bentancur
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Boca Juniors12,50 mio. €

Mattia De Sciglio
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AC Milan12,00 mio. €

Wojciech Szczesny
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FC Arsenal14,00 mio. €



Cristiano Ronaldo
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Real Madrid117,00 mio. €

João Cancelo
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FC Valencia40,40 mio. €

Douglas Costa
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Bayern München40,00 mio. €

Leonardo Bonucci
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AC Milan35,00 mio. €

Mattia Perin
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Genoa14,20 mio. €

Emre Can
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FC Liverpool Free transfert



Matthijs de Ligt
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Ajax85,50 mio. €

Danilo
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Manchester City37,00 mio. €
Cristian Romero
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Genoa26,00 mio. €
Luca Pellegrini
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AS Roma22,00 mio. €
Merih Demiral
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Sassuolo18,00 mio. €

Aaron Ramsey
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FC Arsenal Free transfert

Adrien Rabiot
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Paris SG Free transfert

Gianluigi Buffon
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Paris SG Free transfert
 
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Nenz

Senior Member
Apr 17, 2008
10,420
So Paratici was in charge for those last two seasons. I wouldn't mind seeing a direct comparison of their transfer activity in their respective tenures as Juve GM.

Paratici seems a lot less efficient than Marotta was but it's hard to know for sure without the data. Marotta pulled off those miraculous coups which set up the first Scudetto season (and later, Pogba) probably made him look better than he was. Khedira and Mandzukic for 19M the following season was extremely good value for money too and Barzagli and Bonucci were incredible once the very big risk to hire Conte was taken. He also never got too badly ripped off on sales.

Paratici has given us almost no pleasant surprises. Every player that he's bought who has shown some worth was overpaid for. Only De Ligt and Ronaldo immediately come to mind as successful purchases. Ronaldo was still a rash move which from a sporting perspective gives rapidly diminishing returns. He's doesn't have the frugal instincts of Marotta, meaning he's a lot sloppier with his purchases and a lot lazier in selling.
 

X Æ A-12

Senior Member
Contributor
Sep 4, 2006
86,626
So Paratici was in charge for those last two seasons. I wouldn't mind seeing a direct comparison of their transfer activity in their respective tenures as Juve GM.

Paratici seems a lot less efficient than Marotta was but it's hard to know for sure without the data. Marotta pulled off those miraculous coups which set up the first Scudetto season (and later, Pogba) probably made him look better than he was. Khedira and Mandzukic for 19M the following season was extremely good value for money too and Barzagli and Bonucci were incredible once the very big risk to hire Conte was taken. He also never got too badly ripped off on sales.

Paratici has given us almost no pleasant surprises. Every player that he's bought who has shown some worth was overpaid for. Only De Ligt and Ronaldo immediately come to mind as successful purchases. Ronaldo was still a rash move which from a sporting perspective gives rapidly diminishing returns. He's doesn't have the frugal instincts of Marotta, meaning he's a lot sloppier with his purchases and a lot lazier in selling.
hard to compare the two off just data when you also have to consider Paratici has a much larger budget to work with and the club is much more appealing destination (thanks to the work of Beppe) then in 2011
 

Nenz

Senior Member
Apr 17, 2008
10,420
hard to compare the two off just data when you also have to consider Paratici has a much larger budget to work with and the club is much more appealing destination (thanks to the work of Beppe) then in 2011
You can factor it in. If anything it should afford Paratici less margin for error. Yes, Paratici has a lot less room for improvement in terms of results but if most of the markers used to measure the performance of the team as a whole as well as spending on the market relative to sales revenue are trending unfavourably, then that would be a pretty clear indictment of Paratici as GM you would think.
 
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