Calciopoli was a chance. A chance to make a new start, bring Italian football back to live, bring the next generation, make it bright again. So lets go backwards to old farts weeeeeeee.
Backwards? A coach that wins is going backwards? Explain yourself please.
A new start... nice people with nice smiles... the new Juve... Ranieri, Ciro, Zaccheroni... 3rd place, 4th place, 5th place...
inter as champions for the next 13 years until they pass out Juve and get 3 stars. Sounds great.
Yeah, sounds great to me. I enjoy watching our ex players score against us as well, that is always pleasant. But hey, lets move forward with Conte.
Yeah lets compare this squad to the squad he had at his disposal back then coupled with our pathetic BOD & horrendous medical staff.Capello will surely bring the magic.
I can't believe what short memories some ppl have,i can't get over the fact how we sucked under his tenure & yet some are behaving like babies,throwing their toys out of the cot.
The big question is,are you prepared to be content with the scudetto & never have a shot at the CL?
Inter have a massive squad with the best coach on the planet, yet no success in CL (yet). What is your reasoning for that then? Just because you have a team loaded with stars doesn't guarantee you a CL, just ask Mourinho in Porto. I would take 2 straight schudetti hands down over where I am at right now. So you think Prandelli, Gasperoni, Benitez, or Guus would guarantee us CL glory? Dude, there is no guarantee in football. Just ask Real Madrid when we beat them in CL for how many of the last 3 years now? When the last 2 times we were weaker on paper....and it was Ranieri that did it?
All these variables that people try to throw into the equation make me sick. A coach that wins is a coach that wins and people always have to try and turn a successful coach into a negative one for some ludicrous reason. I remember people defending ranieri for what he did in england and spain, where did that get us? Lippi and Capello might have been BORING AS HELL but at least none of us lost sleep at night about whether Palermo were going to beat us at home when on paper we had a much stronger team or losing sleep about whether or not we will qualify for CL....
Right now we have neither. We are nowhere close. We are at risk of going under to teams like Napoli and Fiorentina. Capello doesn't have to be here forever. A Scudetto would be nice, even if that's expecting too much. Is he not one of the best coaches in the world? He can get us on the right path. Hiddink is gone. We don't have much options. I would be happy with Benitez, Prandelli, Gasperini, Pellegrini, but a lot of people here wouldn't even accept those. Who they want, God alone knows. They have a problem with everyone.
Sure prandelli and gasperini and good coaches in Serie A but for some to want to take a risk on a gamble like that when we could have had a Guus or Benitez is kinda absurd. It makes sense when all other coaches are out of the equation but if there is a chance to bring capello back versus a gasperini or benitez or prandelli I would take capello in a heart beat.
FFS I don't say that I liked any of this what happened but getting Capello goes into the same category! We fucked our first chance up because we didn't gave our selfs time, you can't go down like that and be back the next day. Now we are really in trouble and this time we should do it right.
What is doing it right? Gasperini? Prandelli? What makes you so sure that they would be what we need? Guus is out of the question, what's next? Benitez? What makes you so sure that we can find someone, anyone for that matter, that would be available?
Look, our BOD doesn't have a spine and getting Bettega back was great but if we could find a coach that has the balls to set shit straight when the going gets tough then hell yeah. We need a general right now as a coach, not staff sergeant. We need someone to know when to make the right calls at the right time, not when its too late.
Forget all of that.When Capello arrived here he took over a well run club.We had it all,our team was one of the best in europe & wasn't that had for him to continue that success.
Now we have a squad half filled with mediocre players,constant injuries,clueless directors & low morale within the team.Do you really think he's the man to fix all of that?He might be a quick fix solution but not a long term solution.I don't see him sticking with the club if he experienced a rotten run like the current scenario.
My problem with him is his ridged style of play & his stubborn defensive minded tactics.We need to move on from the typical italian style of play if we are ever to go forward imo.
Ok then who is the man to fix it all? Give me someone better that is available that is better and smarter than Capello? Please.
so mourinho is worse than him? Capello is a great coach, real madrid still regrets letting him go
We agree on something?
We need a disciplinarian like Capello, but given the situation with DD, Ranieri and even Ciro (remember management being in the dugout towards the end of his stint), his authority would be undermined by the board who ultimately have the final say.
Personally, I do not want Capello. If we are willing to match his wages, there are other options available. Given our mental weakness and lack of consistently this season, I do like the idea of a strict coach though.
Matching wages? We are beyond that point. It's time to pay up. You get what you pay for when you get a world class coach. Capello is a disciplinarian yes, but his tactics are genius whether boring or not they produce results. That's what matters.
Juve didn't suck. We were spoiled babies who weren't satisfied with 2 scudetti in a row and we wanted to play some Barca-style football, beat everyone 10:0 and win the CL every single year.
How on earth can you say that we sucked when we won 2 years in a row? We had great players and that's the only reason why we won? Milan with Cafu, Nesta, Maldini, Pirlo, Gattuso, Seedorf, Kaka, Crespo, Shevchenko, Inzaghi etc, weren't just as great?
They were even better than us and we beat them to the scudetto, twice.
Thank you, that needed to be said. So by some logic here Alen, and correct me if I am wrong, but Inter winning schudetti back to back to back to back is still considered poor because they haven't won the CL. I am sure that A) Their fans are deeply upset that they are cruising to title after title and B) that their team plays boring soccer but still are 18-20 pts ahead of us and cruising again to another title. Sure, I am positive that their fans are furious with their clubs turn of results.
I like what you said Alen, I agree. Good points.
Better than us? Are you serious?
Sheva, Crespo, Inzaghi better than Del Piero, Zlatan, Trezeguet, Mutu?
Nesta, Kaladze, Cafu, Serginho, Maldini better than Cannavaro, Zambrotta, Thuram? Let alone an inform Zebina under Capello, Ferrara etc...
Pirlo, Gattuso, Ambrosini, Seedorf better than Nedved, Vieira, Emerson, Camoranesi?
Dida better than Buffon? Their bench to ours?
Lets not kid ourselves alone. We were the most complete squad in Europe and not only in Italy under Fabio Capello thanks to the board at that time of course.
Most complete team in Europe doesn't always mean success. Why don't you ask Porto and Monaco that when they made it to the CL final ahead of the "most complete teams in Europe".
Nope i cant say i agree.When you dominate a league the next progression is obviously entertaining football.Besides Capello's main objective at that point in time was to secure the CL which he failed miserably at.Our play was way to predictable & one dimensional.The only saving grace was the physical attributes that the team possessed & our individual stars back then.
Man, every coach except the one that wins the CL fails miserably at securing the CL. Does that mean they suck? Nope.
We have a physical team now, not as much then.
I don't see why Capello would be such a bad idea. The guy is class, he wins, grinds out results. You don't see Inter fans crying when they are light years ahead of second place every year, do you? You don't see them crying when they are signing world class players because these player want to join them and play for a world class coach, do you?
Real Madrid have failed in CL regardless of all the money spent. Money and world class players do not always yield results that is expected of them. If you guy are satisfied with fighting for CL spots in our league and watching Inter catch up in schudetti, or are satisfied with risking a lower level team coach a chance at the big time when there "could" be a more viable option out there then fine...let's keep bring coaches that bring us poulsens and tiagos...I'm getting used to 4th-5th place now, I guess it isn't so bad.
What is really strange right now is our objectives are so twisted. Some want the CL right away which is NOT going to happen. Others want the league right away which also WONT happen right away. What we need is a coach that is smart, tactically spotless and we won't get that with prandelli or gasperini...doubtfully benitez...not many are better with tactics than capello and on an individual basis Inter are so much stronger and have the talented players all over the pitch that can bring the spark when its needed most. We only have a handful and some of those are getting much much older...this is when tactics is going to have to come into play. A coach, that given less talent than another, can out coach the other. Capello.
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