Explosions in London ! (11 Viewers)

[Azzurri7]

++ [ originally posted by Dan ] ++


actually, catching Osama could increase it- how would the terrorists react to such an important figure being caught?

good point. But it's not like they'll get him back IF US grab him, The big Leaders and the Likes of Osama wouldn't have the balls to do any-attacking on any country.

 

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[Zlatan]

++ [ originally posted by Yezkimov ] ++


I agree to a point, but I still think order must be there in order for the terror to transfer down.

I see Osama as more of a spiritual leader, while terrorists IMO work in cells that don't need more than 5-10 people.

Even todays attacks was carried out, if you believe the group that took responsibility, by a subsidiary of Al Quaeda, meaning an independant group that "sympathises" with the goals of Al Queda, but is not part of the original Al Quaeda that carried out the 9/11 attacks.

 

[Zlatan]

++ [ originally posted by Azzurri7 ] ++


good point. But it's not like they'll get him back IF US grab him, The big Leaders and the Likes of Osama wouldn't have the balls to do any-attacking on any country.

The whole point is that todays terrorists don't need a big leader. All they need is 10 fanatics that are willing to give their lives for the cause, independant of what Osama does.

 

[Yezkimov]

++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++



I see Osama as more of a spiritual leader, while terrorists IMO work in cells that don't need more than 5-10 people.

Even todays attacks was carried out, if you believe the group that took responsibility, by a subsidiary of Al Quaeda, meaning an independant group that "sympathises" with the goals of Al Queda, but is not part of the original Al Quaeda that carried out the 9/11 attacks.

Yea, i understand, kind of like me being a subsidiary of Burke International.

 

[Azzurri7]

++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++

People thought that Arafat's death would help the peace process in Palesitne, but we all see how thats working out.

The Israel and Palestine case is diff Story(Historical and been fighting since 1948) It's complete diff Story.

 

[Azzurri7]

++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++



The whole point is that todays terrorists don't need a big leader. All they need is 10 fanatics that are willing to give their lives for the cause, independant of what Osama does.

Who's helping these 10, Zlatan? Or lets Say who's their Master? I doubt it 10people Like this, having the courage and the Power to Attack one of the World's Strongest Country without the Help of Any big Boss out there!!! you could be right though....But.

 

[Zlatan]

++ [ originally posted by Azzurri7 ] ++


Who's helping these 10, Zlatan? Or lets Say who's their Master? I doubt it 10people Like this, having the courage and the Power to Attack one of the World's Strongest Country without the Help of Any big Boss out there!!! you could be right though....But.

Other than financial support, which they could get otherwise, small terrorist cells don't need any "Big Bosses".

 

[Azzurri7]

++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++



Other than financial support, which they could get otherwise, small terrorist cells don't need any "Big Bosses".

IMO what happened today wasn't Small Terrorist attack.

Anyhow mate, I am off to bed, gotta wake up early.

Catch ya later.

 

[Zlatan]

Small cells can carry out big attacks. It's not so much about the size of the cells, as it about their organisational skills and abilities, shall we say.

 

[/usr/bin]

++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++
Small cells can carry out big attacks. It's not so much about the size of the cells, as it about their organisational skills and abilities, shall we say.

True. And often, the smaller the "cell" is, the less likely it would be to be found out, or "recognized" beforehand, or after the attacks as well..

 

[Zlatan]

Exactly, thats why different cells often don't know about eachother and have no contacts.

 

[Zlatan]

37 dead so far according to CNN.

 

[/usr/bin]

There are many different ways these attacks could have taken place:
-A large organisation, like Al Qaeda, behind the attacks
-A Small organisation that has no links to Al Qaeda whatsoever
-A small organization led by a rogue Al Qaeda/(or another organization) member, not agreeing with his previous organization's ideas/goals..

 

[Zlatan]

Most probably an independant cell that links itself to Al Quaeda or Al Quaeda it self. My money is on one of these two options.

 

[/usr/bin]

Hey, I just noticed that the Madrid attacks were on my birthday.. .. I bring bad luck to this world..

anyways, I'm off to bed.. see you guys tomorrow..

 

[swag]

Yeah. Osama is kind of pointless these days. He's just a figurehead now. These cells don't really need him, so taking Osama out is more about past deeds than anything about the future.

This is basically like a cancer of modern civilization. But over the course of history I truly believe this will be just one phase like many others in history ... much like communism... or even like the crusades were. And as with the crusades centuries before, in the end lots of people will die in this world, and lots of things will be destroyed, all for nothing. A completely senseless waste for dimwits who thought their perverse views of the world were right and entitled them to take everyone else down for them.

 

[nedved34]

++ [ originally posted by Azzurri7 ] ++


Yeah, But It's really annoying each time you read an article or something you'll see the "Islam" word, Even If it has nothing to do with it, But for god's sake, Just name the group, name Bin-landen or Jihad or Al-Qaeda or what-so-ever, but Keep the Islam thing on the other Side.

you will always see those names together,because usama and that mother Fvcker Zarqawi claim they are fighting in the name of Islam (which most of Islam world don't agree)

 

[swag]

++ [ originally posted by snoop ] ++

you will always see those names together,because usama and that mother Fvcker Zarqawi claim they are fighting in the name of Islam (which most of Islam world don't agree)

In old Christian theology, this is essentially one of the four horsemen of the Apolcalypse: "false religion", or perverting the power of religion and leveraging that for personal or other selfish gain through mass public deception.

 

[nedved34]

++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++



Catching Osama will stop nothing. Terrorism can not be stopped unless the reasons for it's existance are erradicated.

I tell you how to end these war and terorism bullshit ,If every nation mind their business,there wouldn't be any problem,but the bastards are greed for oil and other things (power),so that's almost imposible to happen..

I hate to say this,but every british is responsible for this incident,didn't you choose your own leader in a democratic way?this means you are supporting wars,wars are always wars,don't make yourself fool and believe in craps like Holly wars, other nation freedom.. as long as people dies,wars are always wars.. So anyone, if you really are against terorism and wars, go on street and protest your leader..don't think of revenge and hate,that will only make it worse

 

[nedved34]

++ [ originally posted by Fecal Matter ] ++
You live in hackney or some other shithole in London, you spend your whole fvcking life trying to get out of there, trying to get a decent job and trying to look after your family. You send your kids to school there where the classes are over 50% foreign. The schools there change your kids timetables to suit those other kids. You dont say fvck all to any muslim who pisses you off, kicks you out of his shop, takes your job or tells you what to do in your own country, because thats racist. Then you get the bus to go to your shitty job to so your family dont starve to death and a british muslim whos education you paid for, fucking blows you away.

Such is life.

Well done though, you just Blair a free ticket and made life hell for every muslim in London.

I hope you don't mean that,or you just say it because of your anger.. any muslim is like you and me,a human being.there is no wrong if he leaves in my or your country and works there..