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Hey, I agree... but reliable depth is important in three competitions, and that's what Stendardo is.
I just don't see the board splashing out on 13m (plus assets) Amauri, a ~20m Central Midfielder, a ~10m Left Back, and a 15 m centre back.
Mellberg, Chiellini, Andrade and one of Stendardo/Legrottaglie, with Sissoko watching their backs should be sufficient until a big name CB is available and Juve can afford to buy him. The guys bandied around (Ujfalusi, Barzagli, etc.) are not a step up from Mellberg, Chiellini and a healthy Andrade anyway. The guys that are above them are not cheaply attained, and would mean not filling in more essential holes.
I just don't see the board splashing out on 13m (plus assets) Amauri, a ~20m Central Midfielder, a ~10m Left Back, and a 15 m centre back.
Mellberg, Chiellini, Andrade and one of Stendardo/Legrottaglie, with Sissoko watching their backs should be sufficient until a big name CB is available and Juve can afford to buy him. The guys bandied around (Ujfalusi, Barzagli, etc.) are not a step up from Mellberg, Chiellini and a healthy Andrade anyway. The guys that are above them are not cheaply attained, and would mean not filling in more essential holes.
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Lazio Offer Stendardo For Marchionni
According to Il Messagero, Lazio are sent to present Juventus with an exchange offer of Guglielmo Stendardo for Marco Marchionni.
Stendardo is due to return to Lazio having completed his six month loan spell at Juventus, however he is almost certain to be immediately sold on as he has fallen out with Coach Delio Rossi.
The Neapolitan defender only made five Serie A appearances during his short stay at Turin. The Bianconeri are keen to keep him though, only they have been put off by Lazio President Claudio Lotito’s astronomical €12m asking price.
Il Messagero says that Lotito is now ready to propose a new solution, offering Stendardo in straight exchange for Juve winger Marco Marchionni.
Marchionni is a highly talented and skilful wideman, however he has barely featured this season due to injury, a curse that has befallen him for most of his career.
Due to his injury proneness, Juve may be willing to accept Lazio’s offer. The Biancocelesti, who are rebuilding after a disastrous season, are also said to be eyeing up Parma-duo Luca Cigarini and Daniele Dessena.
Anthony Sormani
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According to Il Messagero, Lazio are sent to present Juventus with an exchange offer of Guglielmo Stendardo for Marco Marchionni.
Stendardo is due to return to Lazio having completed his six month loan spell at Juventus, however he is almost certain to be immediately sold on as he has fallen out with Coach Delio Rossi.
The Neapolitan defender only made five Serie A appearances during his short stay at Turin. The Bianconeri are keen to keep him though, only they have been put off by Lazio President Claudio Lotito’s astronomical €12m asking price.
Il Messagero says that Lotito is now ready to propose a new solution, offering Stendardo in straight exchange for Juve winger Marco Marchionni.
Marchionni is a highly talented and skilful wideman, however he has barely featured this season due to injury, a curse that has befallen him for most of his career.
Due to his injury proneness, Juve may be willing to accept Lazio’s offer. The Biancocelesti, who are rebuilding after a disastrous season, are also said to be eyeing up Parma-duo Luca Cigarini and Daniele Dessena.
Anthony Sormani
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Marchionni has a lot more Juve-utility when he's not hurt, so I wouldn't be so willing to offload him... but with Giovinco, Camoranesi, Nedved, Salihamidzic, De Ceglie and potentially Palladino and Iaquinta available as wingers... I doubt he'll be here through the summer.
Both are probably valued at around €5m, so it might not be that bad.
Both are probably valued at around €5m, so it might not be that bad.
Marchionni is the only real RM we have, Giovinco and Palla are not wingers, CR rightfully sees Salih as an urgent solution only. If we sell Marchio, we will be forced to spend to fill an extra place. I would rather spend Marchio and the money from Almiron, to real RM sub, someone able to sub Camo in a CL game!
Almiron is surplus in our squad now, his departure wont affect us.
First of all, we cant have 5 players for 2 positions on the field, esp when we have so many players that can cover multiple positions. That is a waste of roster space and salaries. We should better had fewer and more reliable solutions, at this point, being efficient is essential to our rapid growth!
This is the year we are supposed to spend all the money we were saving the previous years, we are finally in CL again, we have a relatively competitive team to survive in the league and we only need to enhance her with players that would make the difference and help us against the strongest teams of Europe and Italy, in our quest, to challenge for a title.
Our bellow to sub players should be used as back ups only, they are not good enough to be considered as starters at this level and bringing 3 more of the similar level will not help our situation. This year we were playing in two competitions 6-10 more CL games will not require to double our roster. Lazio had many playes like Stendardo, more than we did, but that didnt help her to do better than us.
Inter in previous years had double our roster, but the half of them were looking helpless from their bench how our starters owned the best of them.
Our priority is to build a strong team first and then we may start stacking up luxury subs like Amauri. There is no point buying Amauri when one of Stendardo,Legro or Amauri will be a starter in that given day. We are not getting any better that way. And the worst thing is that is will become double as difficult to upgrade this team full of middle class players in the future, we wont afford to bring good players, because we will reach our salary cap limits, due to the fact that our team is full of average players. We will be forced to give two players, to make space for one, when we could by this player from the start and add a new high quality player the next year. This is exactly the mistakes we did last year, when we brought Tiago, Almiron, Criscito and Andrade, with the same money we could have paid for Sissoko and Milito, i used the same arguments and i was up against the same arguments as i am now... Just take a look at our current team and see where this mentality led us.
We are bound to repeat the same mistakes against, our managers are not only noobs, but they are stupid as well!!
If we had Sissoko and Milito from the start of season, we wouldnt struggle so much, we could bring in another helpful player at x-mas and we would have two less starter places to worry about this season.
It was as simple as that, but we chose to gamble, "throw empties to catch big ones as we say".We paid this tactic mistake double time, because it is also a strategical mistakes, with 2 new star acquisitions these year, we could already have a quality team spending the same money in the some time and probably having even better results!
Many useless players wont do the job of one good player. Stendardo is not a reliable player!! He is the same or worse, than the rest of our junk players!
We have much more coverage to CBs than we have for our RMs,
most of the players you mentioned are LMs, there is a significant issue, a very important issue, why LMs cant play as well as RMs in the right part of the pitch, its their competence to dribble, shoot and Cross with their weak foot!
We may consider them as back ups, but not us a sub, good enough to replace Camo, if a lengthy injury reappears.
To counter your argument i would point out that we could use, Legro, Chiellini, Andrade, Mellberg, Zebina and Grygera and possibly Criscito and Molinaro, as CBs
Only a plane crash or a bus accident would amputate all of them simultaneously:xfinger:
Almiron is surplus in our squad now, his departure wont affect us.
First of all, we cant have 5 players for 2 positions on the field, esp when we have so many players that can cover multiple positions. That is a waste of roster space and salaries. We should better had fewer and more reliable solutions, at this point, being efficient is essential to our rapid growth!
This is the year we are supposed to spend all the money we were saving the previous years, we are finally in CL again, we have a relatively competitive team to survive in the league and we only need to enhance her with players that would make the difference and help us against the strongest teams of Europe and Italy, in our quest, to challenge for a title.
Our bellow to sub players should be used as back ups only, they are not good enough to be considered as starters at this level and bringing 3 more of the similar level will not help our situation. This year we were playing in two competitions 6-10 more CL games will not require to double our roster. Lazio had many playes like Stendardo, more than we did, but that didnt help her to do better than us.
Inter in previous years had double our roster, but the half of them were looking helpless from their bench how our starters owned the best of them.
Our priority is to build a strong team first and then we may start stacking up luxury subs like Amauri. There is no point buying Amauri when one of Stendardo,Legro or Amauri will be a starter in that given day. We are not getting any better that way. And the worst thing is that is will become double as difficult to upgrade this team full of middle class players in the future, we wont afford to bring good players, because we will reach our salary cap limits, due to the fact that our team is full of average players. We will be forced to give two players, to make space for one, when we could by this player from the start and add a new high quality player the next year. This is exactly the mistakes we did last year, when we brought Tiago, Almiron, Criscito and Andrade, with the same money we could have paid for Sissoko and Milito, i used the same arguments and i was up against the same arguments as i am now... Just take a look at our current team and see where this mentality led us.
We are bound to repeat the same mistakes against, our managers are not only noobs, but they are stupid as well!!
If we had Sissoko and Milito from the start of season, we wouldnt struggle so much, we could bring in another helpful player at x-mas and we would have two less starter places to worry about this season.
It was as simple as that, but we chose to gamble, "throw empties to catch big ones as we say".We paid this tactic mistake double time, because it is also a strategical mistakes, with 2 new star acquisitions these year, we could already have a quality team spending the same money in the some time and probably having even better results!
Many useless players wont do the job of one good player. Stendardo is not a reliable player!! He is the same or worse, than the rest of our junk players!
We have much more coverage to CBs than we have for our RMs,
most of the players you mentioned are LMs, there is a significant issue, a very important issue, why LMs cant play as well as RMs in the right part of the pitch, its their competence to dribble, shoot and Cross with their weak foot!
We may consider them as back ups, but not us a sub, good enough to replace Camo, if a lengthy injury reappears.
To counter your argument i would point out that we could use, Legro, Chiellini, Andrade, Mellberg, Zebina and Grygera and possibly Criscito and Molinaro, as CBs
Only a plane crash or a bus accident would amputate all of them simultaneously:xfinger:
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