If the person is really suffering and has no chance of living normally i say it is right to "kill" him/her.
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Yeah in my speech class we talked about that too.of course this was about 2 years ago, if you look at it throught the "killing" side,yeah itz bad. I htink it's ok because the person more than likely will die anyway and if we can keep them from going through so much pain why not? Nobody sould have to put up with it if they don't want to...especially if they have no control over the situatuation.
here a question,and answer it honestly:
if your best friend,or your parent,or someone extremley close to you was terminally ill,and had to live the rest of his life not like a normal person,would you want him to be be with you and die a natural death?or would you want him to be euthanised and taken away from you?
if your best friend,or your parent,or someone extremley close to you was terminally ill,and had to live the rest of his life not like a normal person,would you want him to be be with you and die a natural death?or would you want him to be euthanised and taken away from you?
Really great question, its hard to make a decision like this. If they decided to do so well I'll support them because I could not stand to see them suffer. I'll always have that hope that they'll be fine and everything will be ok again. IF they didn't think about this, then y bring it up? Natural death is the way things are supposed to be.
first i'd see what they want and how they would live. And if the person would suffer to much and just be a vegetable(i.e. can't do anything) i think i would tell them to kill him/her. But i wouldnt want to be in the room cause i'd start crying and for the person it is good and bad as it shows how much i would care but also this is better for him so i should be 'happy'
It's not about Dutch law, it's about me supporting the law in this case. Which means the above article represented MY views.
See, that's the problem here. You seem to think:
* Killing equals murder and therefor it is bad.
To me (and Dutch society in majority):
* Killing equals death. Killing can be subdivided into two groups:
I support it euthanasia because it doesn't equal murder. As I explained above.
See, that's the problem here. You seem to think:
* Killing equals murder and therefor it is bad.
To me (and Dutch society in majority):
* Killing equals death. Killing can be subdivided into two groups:
- Murder. Murder means person A takes the life of person B while person B intended and had a wish to live on. This is viewed by most people here as wrong and hence, in a democratic society, it is illegal.
- Euthanasia. Euthanasia means person A wants to die. That is his own personal right because it is his life and his life only. If person A commits suicide, the issue ends right there. If person A would like the assistance of a professional (person B), the law (and the law = the people) provides the necessary procedures. By law, person B may, at all times, refuse to assist for moral or other reasons at which point person A has the option of requesting another professional for assistance.
I support it euthanasia because it doesn't equal murder. As I explained above.
It should be avoided at all costs,
patients in hospitals arent dieing horses in the battlefield,
most of the times there is still a fragment of hope even in the worst cases scenario,
i m not speaking about miracles here, but new tehniques/treatment should be tried out first,
even a desperate surgical operation attempt is better than that
and the patient doesnt have to suffer or even feel anything,
modern medicine is beyond that, i can hardly think of any chance a conscious patient would be presented to such a situation and willingly take that...decision...
doctors wont allow a patient to sucide, even if he wises to
and a doctor should not be obligated by law to take a life at almost any circumstances...esp when the patient dissagrees to follow a treatment because of his religius/spiritual/social believes.
BUT unfortunately there are some very very rare cases, when, honestly there is no other way...
patients in hospitals arent dieing horses in the battlefield,
most of the times there is still a fragment of hope even in the worst cases scenario,
i m not speaking about miracles here, but new tehniques/treatment should be tried out first,
even a desperate surgical operation attempt is better than that
and the patient doesnt have to suffer or even feel anything,
modern medicine is beyond that, i can hardly think of any chance a conscious patient would be presented to such a situation and willingly take that...decision...
doctors wont allow a patient to sucide, even if he wises to
and a doctor should not be obligated by law to take a life at almost any circumstances...esp when the patient dissagrees to follow a treatment because of his religius/spiritual/social believes.
BUT unfortunately there are some very very rare cases, when, honestly there is no other way...
id always cling on to hope,even if the person was in great pain.id hope that there would be some way that he would be cured,some way that his pain would be reduced.im not a medical student,but medical science has advanced a lot.there are cures for diseases that were thought to be incurable in the past.im not saying there's a cure for every single disease,but id cling on to the hope of seeing them get relief until that hope is taken away from me by natural death.i dont think that selfish.that's just hoping for the best.
I tend to lean on the plus side here. A person's destiny is in their own hands, or should be. If a person wants to die but is too ill to jump off a cliff, it makes sense to give them this option. After all, it pertains only to people who have to endure physical suffering without a potential for improvement.
Of course, but you cannot make a law based on some possible scenario that may or may not happen. If there is no treatment today, and if there was something promising being worked on, the patient's doctor would be the first to tell him about it. If there is no treatment, there is no treatment, simple as that. Waiting a year to see if anything has changed may be viable to you, but for a patient who suffers from intense pain every day (and night), it's not exactly the same.
That's not really the biggest problem. Most people would agree to that. But what can you do with an extremely catholic 85 year old who's not only living the most unbearable pains, but is also suffering from dementia? Could you go through with euthanasia if the family agrees? From my point of view you couldn't, because she's catholic and thus one would assume she wouldn't have agreed. On the other hand she might chosen against the catholic beliefs if she were fit to. It's all pretty damn gray.