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JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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This article itself is full of propaganda. Anyway, why are you so involved in all of this? I find it truly amazing. You seem like a smart guy, you can't believe this whole narrative of blaming Putin for everything and using him to scare people, can you?
I thought it was pretty well-established that social media was full of Russian bots and misinformers?
 

Scottish

Zebrastreifenpferd
Mar 13, 2011
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I thought it was pretty well-established that social media was full of Russian bots and misinformers?
We are all at it, though. Astroturfing is really common and to be honest it would make zero sense not to do it if you were the leader of any nationstate. Where's the line between advertising campaigns, guerrilla marketing and mouthpiece social media accounts? There's no international agreement about this stuff and plus everybody else is already doing it so why take the high road?

I always remember how around 10 years ago Reddit used to publish user data stats and stuff. They revealed that a US air base was the "most Reddit-addicted city" in the world. They don't publish this stuff any more lol.

https://web.archive.org/web/2016060...5/get-ready-for-global-reddit-meetup-day.html

You basically can't trust anything published on the internet from any political position and now that untrustworthy vat of information is where AI LLMs are getting their information from. The 'trust me bro' sources carry the same weight as anything else.

As a Scot I accept that there likely were attempts to push pro-independence positions by Russian sources. Why would they not? We platform Russian dissidents over here with an intent to destabilise the political situation in Russia. The dumbest thing to me is the meatheads who voted Brexit to avoid EU influence on the UK and now think Russia doing the same in Eastern Europe is great.

That was a bit of a ramble, sorry!
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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in case you want to listen to some gibberish with english subs and learn how to steal a billion euros of public money:

 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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normalizing russian aggression has been a common narrative in fidesz propaganda, but this is rich even from them. what a casual headline

 

Siamak

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Aug 13, 2013
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At some point in history around the World Wars, my ancestors and @DAiDEViL ancestors were fighting against the British army. seemingly they cooperated to encounter British colonialism in some areas.

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Siamak

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Aug 13, 2013
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That's why I admire Germany, They were building 50 fighter jets daily using only domestic power. Of course I mean Germany 1939-1945. Germany at that time wasn't for beginners.

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s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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as a whole package, this is a ridiculous interview by szijjártó, but there's one thing that perfectly describes our illiberal democracy. watch from 6:15 when quest (an openly gay journalist) asks about the pride that was first banned in budapest, then the mayor said that it will be held, whatever happens. then szijjártó lies in his answer ("pride is the proof that love is free in hungary" lol), both laugh at that (around 7:10), quest calls out the lie saying something like it only happened because they ignored the ban, then the conversation ends in a cordial way:



then literally a few hours after this interview, budapest's mayor became a criminal suspect when he was charged with facilitating an illegal assembly

i'm not keen on having a pride in hungary, in fact i don't give a shit about pride or any other part of the lbgtq movement, but banning pride under the flag of child protection is a blatant violation of basic human rights, then telling the world via cnn that love is free in hungary is an insane lie, then charging the mayor because he made an assembly possible is another autocratic dick move
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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trump needed the eu to make him look smart for the first time in his 2nd term. what an abomination of a deal: murican citizens pay the tariffs, eu citizens pay for the overly expensive murican gas, the eu invests 600 bn in murica, and the eu gets a big load of nothing out of this deal. at least that's what i'm seeing based on the first reports

i can only see one upside: maybe the gas import will be enough to get rid of the european dependency on russian natural gas. we'll see.
 

.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
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trump needed the eu to make him look smart for the first time in his 2nd term. what an abomination of a deal: murican citizens pay the tariffs, eu citizens pay for the overly expensive murican gas, the eu invests 600 bn in murica, and the eu gets a big load of nothing out of this deal. at least that's what i'm seeing based on the first reports

i can only see one upside: maybe the gas import will be enough to get rid of the european dependency on russian natural gas. we'll see.

 

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