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Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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it looks like romania can't be saved
The moment their constitutional court annulled the election, I was sure that the annulment will backfire spectacularly and that such a decision will only unite the moderates who value democratic process with the anti-establishment voters and the nationalists.
Imo, Georgescu would have lost the second round because different parties would have united against him. Instead, what they managed to do is to unite the majority for a far-right politician who ended 4th in the first round in 2024.

P.S: But there is still a good chance that the mathematician will win in the 2nd round, right?
 
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s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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The moment their constitutional court annulled the election, I was sure that the annulment will backfire spectacularly and that such a decision will only unite the moderates who value democratic process with the anti-establishment voters and the nationalists.
Imo, Georgescu would have lost the second round because different parties would have united against him. Instead, what they managed to do is to unite the majority for a far-right politician who ended 4th in the first round in 2024.

P.S: But there is still a good chance that the mathematician will win in the 2nd round, right?
or it could have been a wake up call for everyone. in hindsight it wasn't

btw here's an interview with simion by a bbc journalist: 'I am young and restless...' - by Nick Thorpe

"since I was in high school and university, I think in the same manner, Russia is the biggest danger towards Romania, Poland and the Baltic states" - we'll see how much of this is true
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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we'll see how much of this is true
While other Romanian politicians talk about cultural unity between Romania and Moldova, he is openly irredentist.
I lived in Bucharest on two separate occasions for 4-5 months in the past, and I am well aware of this issue with Moldova. I fully support a unification if both people want that. However, I am also aware about the Russian interest there. If I'm not wrong, Russian troops are still stationed in Transnistria. If the next Romanian president moves from rhetoric to policy (automatic Romanian citizenship to all Moldovans, joint declarations, economic integration initiatives etc.) it will look like a prelude to annexation, and the Russians won't stay calm.

Romania is developing fast and I am very happy for that. I wouldn't want some hardcore right-wing politician to endanger this development.
Then again, it's up to the Romanians to choose their leaders.
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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UPDATE Simion promotes himself in Transylvania with leaflets in which he appears alongside Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán with the message: "Romanians can count on Hungarians in their fight for Christianity and sovereignty"

romanian news site reported that simion promotes himself on a leaflet that also features orbán and a quote from him. transylvania has a large hungarian minority, this should resonate well with them. problem is that 1. simion never asked for permission from orbán 2. simion has been openly anti-hungarian before (not entirely unexpected from a former football hooligan lol), it's only a pose from him 3. rmdsz (romanian party representing hungarians in romania) already let orbán know that simion is not expected to be the friend of hungarians anytime soon - and rmdsz is a long time partner of orbán, he won elections partly due to the extemely high, >90% transylvanian fidesz support, so orbán owes them a lot

just to add another layer to the whole story, orbán openly supported simion before, and for good reasons: both are putin's little bitches, and orbán would welcome a new veto partner in the eu too. even if putin lost le pen, orbán, fico and simion would make a perfect trojan horse alliance that work for putin

so yeah, romanian elections are important. needless to say, forza sorbonne mathematician. his win would be a huge L for putin and orbán too
 

swag

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Sep 23, 2003
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While other Romanian politicians talk about cultural unity between Romania and Moldova, he is openly irredentist.
I lived in Bucharest on two separate occasions for 4-5 months in the past, and I am well aware of this issue with Moldova. I fully support a unification if both people want that. However, I am also aware about the Russian interest there. If I'm not wrong, Russian troops are still stationed in Transnistria. If the next Romanian president moves from rhetoric to policy (automatic Romanian citizenship to all Moldovans, joint declarations, economic integration initiatives etc.) it will look like a prelude to annexation, and the Russians won't stay calm.

Romania is developing fast and I am very happy for that. I wouldn't want some hardcore right-wing politician to endanger this development.
Then again, it's up to the Romanians to choose their leaders.
I've come to think a lot about the power of memory and how it fades over the decades. When social memory fades, people forget what happens when you stick a fork in an electrical socket. So every generation or two, a lot of people need to re-learn lessons through voluntary electrocution.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
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  • Alen

    Alen

I've come to think a lot about the power of memory and how it fades over the decades. When social memory fades, people forget what happens when you stick a fork in an electrical socket. So every generation or two, a lot of people need to re-learn lessons through voluntary electrocution.
Yeah, memory fades faster than we’d like. In the past maybe two or three generations held on to key lessons, and then it slipped away unless it became part of religion or some national story.
Today we’ve got films, the internet, endless archives, but attention spans are short. People are overloaded. They know a bit of everything but remember almost nothing.
Israel is one of the few places that really built memory into the system. Schools, remembrance days, even trips to Auschwitz. It became part of who they are, not just something in a textbook.
I’ve co-authored history textbooks for high schools and with every lesson I tried to say: here’s why you don’t stick a fork in the socket, or here’s why this made us better as a society. But the other authors still preferred the old nationalist myths. That’s what echoes. Until someone picks up the fork again.
 
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In regards to George Simion , he is seen somehow as anti estabilshment, although that's so far from the truth , but it seems that it's working as long as you don't do research about him and those behind him.
Behind him there are former corrupt politicians from other parties , Russian stooges , former secret police acomplices etc.
He's main political campaign is mainly on TikTok , where the attention span is max 10 seconds , so as our populations iq keeps going downs , people like this Simion thug gets in a position of power .
It's a fight between common sens people and the low educatated , poor population that struggle everyday , but it's never their fault , but someone else .
And him making georgescu prime minister is out of the question since they can't see eye to eye behind close doors , with georgescu calling Simion a moron just last year .
I think the only thing that unites them are their Russian friends and if Simion wins ,georgescu is going to be discarded instantly.
That's what has come to with this curse that is this social media app TikTok .
People saying the mathematician is more stupid than dumb thug .
It's going to be close, but maybe we need this since people here can see the other face of the coin.
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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a few weeks after compromising freedom of assembly, fidesz is moving fast towards not only practical but also legislative authoritarian measures:

https://www.politico.eu/article/vik...cracy-transparency-public-life-civil-society/

since fidesz and the state is not financing hungarian free press, and companies that support free press has been harassed by authorities for years, this would be the end of the freedom of press in hungary. next year's elections are our last chance to save democracy
 

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