[Europa League] JUVENTUS vs Lech Poznan (Sept. 16th 2010)) (16 Viewers)

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Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
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A big middle finger to anyone that plans on whining about this game for the rest of the week.
oh, so you are satisfied with what we showed today...we are one of the weakest teams not only in Serie A, but in Europe as well, as we proved against a no-name team from Poland today.

A big middle finger and it stuck up your ass to anyone that somehow justifies this EMBARASSMENT that we had today.

A bottle of Pepto Bismol wont be able to get rid of the indigestion I had watching this joke of a fucking team.

We were out-hustled, out-muscled, and looked the inferior team for all of the first half, and towards the end of the second.

Who is this Lech Walensa team ?? I never heard of these clowns until I saw that we were playing them in this Cup....we made a beer league team in Shamrock Rovers look like professionals, and today, we made these guys look like champions. Anyone have any idea of what Man City is gonna do to us ?? Here's a hint- Tevez will run circles around our hapless defense

As I said in a previous post, De Ceglie needs to be cut from this team, and his contract voided. He doesnt deserve another nickel, dime or penny from Juventus. He left his man wide open for the first goal (that ended up in a PK) and the second one, he had his finger up his ass (like many here who believe in this team) and watched Chellini and Manninger do their best to prevent the goal.

DP, Chellini (my MOTM) and Krasic are the only 3 players who are worth keeping on this team. The rest are overrated and are paid way too much for what they do...or dont do to be exact. If these guys got paid on performance only, most of them would be in the welfare line.

Del Neri and that freak Marotta should also join our under-performing rejects in that line as well, as when you have a clueless, blind as a fucking bat manager, and a loser coach, who already has admitted defeat, then what can you expect for this team ???

This is not only a repeat of last season, its fucking worse !!!!


My solution- give Moggi WHATEVER he wants in order to get him back, he has 2 better eyes than Marotta and is a WINNER, who will bring in a coach deserving of Juve, because right now, the coach, manager and most of the players arent !!!

If we cant beat this no name Polish team, then WHO THE FUCK CAN WE BEAT ??????
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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Our defensive problem is not an easy thing to fix.

Unlike lot of you, I still don't see a leadership at the back of Chiellini. He can't organize the line, the defense and give instruction, if he doesn't start learning and takes notes from the like of Ciro, Montero and even the scumbag Cannavaro then he shouldn't stay with us I'm afraid because we need a leader at the back even if you're playing with bunch of Molinaros.

De Ceglie is useless, I see a Grygera version in him, except that he's faster than the Czech.

Bonucci and Legro are the same. One is young and inexperienced the other is getting old and can barely mark well, both can't defend well.
 

Paolo Sosa

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Nov 11, 2005
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we mad lech look like Barca IMO. its not that we play badly but we really cannot defend, not with sissoko losing the ball every time he touched it.

i saw the 3rd goal coming once i saw Motta walking back through the Middle thinking he is in traing. this is the 2nd goal we concied in the same manner.

over all i think Krasic is something to look forward too, Lanza was a really big disappointment.

and whats with IQ and his very weak headers? what happen to this guy, i would understand if he had a back or neck injury but he seems as healthy as a horse but still makes these very soft headers
 

PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
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Our defensive problem is not an easy thing to fix.

Unlike lot of you, I still don't see a leadership at the back of Chiellini. He can't organize the line, the defense and give instruction, if he doesn't start learning and takes notes from the like of Ciro, Montero and even the scumbag Cannavaro then he shouldn't stay with us because we need a leader at the back even if you're playing with bunch of Molinaros.

De Ceglie is useless, I see a Grygera version in him, except that he's faster than the Czech.

Bonucci and Legro are the same. One is young and inexperienced the other is getting old and can barely mark well, both can't defend well.
Tell you one thing that would be worth trying, Chiellini as LB his done it before and he did well until he converted into CB. Though of course that wont fix shit anyway. Chiellini remains our only formiddable defender, yes his not the same as ciro or montero but by far his the best than the rest. Its the others who need fingers pointing at, bonucci is a big risk, unknown quantity being brought in, dc and grygera we already knew about and legro well what more can you really add, It was pretty obvious after last season that we had to stretghten the LB position atleast and afterall this we still couldnt do it. Anyway, we still got time, not all is lost...
 

AOD4

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Nov 24, 2004
3,861
Other than Krasic, Chielini and DP everyone else wasnt up to the standard but the worst of the lot has to be Iaquinta. The way he teed up the counter for the first opposition goal and the amount of misses he had, its better if he and Chielini swap positions instead.
 

Nenz

Senior Member
Apr 17, 2008
10,472
Our defensive problem is not an easy thing to fix.

Unlike lot of you, I still don't see a leadership at the back of Chiellini. He can't organize the line, the defense and give instruction, if he doesn't start learning and takes notes from the like of Ciro, Montero and even the scumbag Cannavaro then he shouldn't stay with us because we need a leader at the back even if you're playing with bunch of Molinaros.

De Ceglie is useless, I see a Grygera version in him, except that he's faster than the Czech.

Bonucci and Legro are the same. One is young and inexperienced the other is getting old and can barely mark well, both can't defend well.
:lol: How about we just buy one to partner with him. Or better yet, three that understand how to keep a defensive line in order without their daddy telling them what to do. Chiellini's individual brilliance is crucial to this team.
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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:lol: How about we just buy one to partner with him. Or better yet, three that understand how to keep a defensive line in order without their daddy telling them what to do. Chiellini's individual brilliance is crucial to this team.
If we buy another Chiellini next to our Chiellini then we don't fix much.

We need defenders capable of passing the ball.

Pique, Puyol, Terry, Ferdinand are not better than Chiellini defensively but man they can pass and help their midfielders some big time.

Our 4 defenders, expect both Sissoko and Melo to run 20km's each. They don't know when to push upfront, when not to, when to calm down the rhythm of the game etc... we need a lot of work.
 
Nov 1, 2002
2,482
Our defensive problem is not an easy thing to fix.

Unlike lot of you, I still don't see a leadership at the back of Chiellini. He can't organize the line, the defense and give instruction, if he doesn't start learning and takes notes from the like of Ciro, Montero and even the scumbag Cannavaro then he shouldn't stay with us because we need a leader at the back even if you're playing with bunch of Molinaros.

De Ceglie is useless, I see a Grygera version in him, except that he's faster than the Czech.

Bonucci and Legro are the same. One is young and inexperienced the other is getting old and can barely mark well, both can't defend well.
Ferrara, Montero and Cannavaro were protected by solid midfielders and with great coaches. unlike Chiellini whos being forced to do it all by his own.

we need experienced coach to get us out of this mess. any defensive disciplinarian and arrogant like Van Gaal or Capello... someone who just want to win.

i miss the times when we were winning ugly, at least we were winning :(
 

Delle Alpi

Chemical Dean
May 26, 2009
8,679
oh, so you are satisfied with what we showed today...we are one of the weakest teams not only in Serie A, but in Europe as well, as we proved against a no-name team from Poland today.

A big middle finger and it stuck up your ass to anyone that somehow justifies this EMBARASSMENT that we had today.

A bottle of Pepto Bismol wont be able to get rid of the indigestion I had watching this joke of a fucking team.

We were out-hustled, out-muscled, and looked the inferior team for all of the first half, and towards the end of the second.

Who is this Lech Walensa team ?? I never heard of these clowns until I saw that we were playing them in this Cup....we made a beer league team in Shamrock Rovers look like professionals, and today, we made these guys look like champions. Anyone have any idea of what Man City is gonna do to us ?? Here's a hint- Tevez will run circles around our hapless defense

As I said in a previous post, De Ceglie needs to be cut from this team, and his contract voided. He doesnt deserve another nickel, dime or penny from Juventus. He left his man wide open for the first goal (that ended up in a PK) and the second one, he had his finger up his ass (like many here who believe in this team) and watched Chellini and Manninger do their best to prevent the goal.

DP, Chellini (my MOTM) and Krasic are the only 3 players who are worth keeping on this team. The rest are overrated and are paid way too much for what they do...or dont do to be exact. If these guys got paid on performance only, most of them would be in the welfare line.

Del Neri and that freak Marotta should also join our under-performing rejects in that line as well, as when you have a clueless, blind as a fucking bat manager, and a loser coach, who already has admitted defeat, then what can you expect for this team ???

This is not only a repeat of last season, its fucking worse !!!!


My solution- give Moggi WHATEVER he wants in order to get him back, he has 2 better eyes than Marotta and is a WINNER, who will bring in a coach deserving of Juve, because right now, the coach, manager and most of the players arent !!!

If we cant beat this no name Polish team, then WHO THE FUCK CAN WE BEAT ??????
We can beat the might Shamrock Rovers.
Thank you for this post. We can't expect to win anything with a director that has losing mentality and happy to be average by hiring average coach, and buying average overrated player (except for Krasic). This team is worth than our first year back in Serie A in 2007. We were told to be patient and believe in the PROJECT, what fucking project are they talking about. This is JUVENTUS, not Sampdoria. Juventus, one of the best clubs in the world, a big team that deserves a big coach with winning mentality, and not trying to defend agianst an unkown Polish team at home to save the 3-2 result, a coach that understands the meaning and the value of the Juve shirt. A big team that neads a big director, with big ambitions and hunger, not a director that goes around and sign plenty of average players, then 2 weeks into the season, he mentioned that we are not title contenders and we lack champions, which was his job in the whole summer to fix this. Incompotent director, hiring an incompotent coach to work with incompotent players, which leads to a disaster
 

Nenz

Senior Member
Apr 17, 2008
10,472
If we buy another Chiellini next to our Chiellini then we don't fix much.

We need defenders capable of passing the ball.

Pique, Puyol, Terry, Ferdinand are not better than Chiellini defensively but man they can pass and help their midfielders some big time.

Our 4 defenders, expect both Sissoko and Melo to run 20km's each. They don't know when to push upfront, when not to, when to calm down the rhythm of the game etc... we need a lot of work.
I didn't mean buy another Chiellini. Buy a smart, passing CB. I agree we lack that at the moment but Chiellini is still essential to this team and getting rid of him would be a terrible move. His directing of the back 4 isn't amazing but his passing is really not that bad. He provides some decent run and he just scored a brace for us.
In his defence as well, players like Puyol, Pique, Terry and Ferdinand all play in very complete back four's with established capable players. Chiellini has virtually nothing to work with in comparison. Its not his job to teach them how to play football.
 
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