Euro 2024 General Discussion Thread (34 Viewers)

campionesidd

Senior Member
Mar 16, 2013
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Honestly how can’t we have a god damn winger bar Chiesa for a football country that big. No AM of a world class level, no striker. Seeing Frattesi, Scamacca and Pellegrini is shocking.

I’m wondering what would be the true difference between the 90s and now at a youth level, it isn’t a coincidence that specifically those positions have been lacking for years.
Wait, I thought you were Dutch.
 

mjromeo81

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2022
779
It's better to finish 2nd in the group when you consider this tournament bracket.

Spain finishing 1st in Group B will result in playing one of the 3rd placed teams in the R16, but most likely meeting Germany in the QF.
Italy finishing 2nd will result in a likely R16 meeting with Switzerland, and England in QF.

Croatia is going to come at us hard on the final matchday given they need 3 points. Spain already have 6 points - will they bend over for Albania?

Today's performance was a fucking shitshow. Why wasn't Di Lorenzo given a chin check and subbed off, how did he last the full 90? Is Spalletti afraid to go against his old Napoli boys?

On England - it's like they are 20 years behind tactically. In the modern game, football is won and lost in the midfield. Now look at England's midfield. Declan Rice is a player who benefits massively from the players around him (Odegaard and Jorginho). Trent starting in midfield when he has never played there for Liverpool is 100% on Southgate.

It's such a coping mechanism for the British to say "to get a squad this stacked playing like that is one hell of an achievement." This implies the players are good enough to win a tournament. They aren't. Yeah Southgate is cooked, but fuck me, the best players in the EPL aren't English!! Take away the foreign talent and you are left with Bellingham, Kane, and maybe Saka. Foden is a system player who is useless outside of a stacked Man City. Now even if they had all the talent in the world, the aforementioned tactical issues mean they would just be another Belgium/Portugal loaded with individual talent but no team. No squad. No group. No belief. They keep going up 1-0 (Euro 2020 final, WC Semi Final, etc.) then decide that's the time to sit back and start playing turgid football. Everyone has a plan until you get punched in the mouth (Mike Tyson). What is most concerning is the blank looks on their faces. They have no idea what is happening, how it happened, and what to do next.
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
68,908
It's better to finish 2nd in the group when you consider this tournament bracket.

Spain finishing 1st in Group B will result in playing one of the 3rd placed teams in the R16, but most likely meeting Germany in the QF.
Italy finishing 2nd will result in a likely R16 meeting with Switzerland, and England in QF.

Croatia is going to come at us hard on the final matchday given they need 3 points. Spain already have 6 points - will they bend over for Albania?

Today's performance was a fucking shitshow. Why wasn't Di Lorenzo given a chin check and subbed off, how did he last the full 90? Is Spalletti afraid to go against his old Napoli boys?

On England - it's like they are 20 years behind tactically. In the modern game, football is won and lost in the midfield. Now look at England's midfield. Declan Rice is a player who benefits massively from the players around him (Odegaard and Jorginho). Trent starting in midfield when he has never played there for Liverpool is 100% on Southgate.

It's such a coping mechanism for the British to say "to get a squad this stacked playing like that is one hell of an achievement." This implies the players are good enough to win a tournament. They aren't. Yeah Southgate is cooked, but fuck me, the best players in the EPL aren't English!! Take away the foreign talent and you are left with Bellingham, Kane, and maybe Saka. Foden is a system player who is useless outside of a stacked Man City. Now even if they had all the talent in the world, the aforementioned tactical issues mean they would just be another Belgium/Portugal loaded with individual talent but no team. No squad. No group. No belief. They keep going up 1-0 (Euro 2020 final, WC Semi Final, etc.) then decide that's the time to sit back and start playing turgid football. Everyone has a plan until you get punched in the mouth (Mike Tyson). What is most concerning is the blank looks on their faces. They have no idea what is happening, how it happened, and what to do next.
The Trent in midfield idea is actually a good one, he can play there as he is a technical player without sacrificing the need to play Bellingham deeper in midfield, TAA alternatives like Connor Gallagher however are terrible and the problem yesterday is that there was such little movement from the england attackers that it didn't give TAA any room to pick a pass, whilst he also couldn't overlap on the right side to deliver crosses either. As for england I've always thought they are an overrated side, so one dimensional in terms of how they play under southgate and yet despite thr wealth of talent can't even strike up a half decent balance anywhere on the pitch, they can't even press as a team, can't even move the ball quickly enough, and can barely play out from the back. I really can't wait till they play a proper team in this tournament, they're gonna get a fucking good hiding, it'll be biblical.
 

Al Birdie

Junior Member
May 19, 2016
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It reminds me of a 2006 shitshow against USA. Lippi did the necessary adjustments after that game, hopefully Spalletti is capable of it too. Although, i did expect reaction after Albania game too and we started the same team...
I guess we'll see on Monday.
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
68,908
It reminds me of a 2006 shitshow against USA. Lippi did the necessary adjustments after that game, hopefully Spalletti is capable of it too. Although, i did expect reaction after Albania game too and we started the same team...
I guess we'll see on Monday.
I somehow doubt it, Spalletti is not that type of coach.
It is such a disjointed team
 

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