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Yeah, sure, they need to play one good opponent in the semifinal. But their group (Switzerland, Albania and Romania) is easy, and they're likely going to meet a team like Ukraine in the 1/16's and Russia/Wales in the quarter finals. Very doable.
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Agreed. If they win their group, they're probably going to meet Switzerland/Poland in the quarter final.
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Agreed. If they win their group, they're probably going to meet Switzerland/Poland in the quarter final.
This is my quick predictions right now. Guessing the best third-place teams is always impossible though. 
I think the winner of Germany vs France will win the tournament.
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And Belgium the toughest one.
Sounds so annoyingly plausible.
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thanks for that.
If Italy somehow managed to come 2nd in their group, it'll probably be much more beneficial for them. My predictor has them playing Portugal in the 2nd round and then England in the QF. If they come first, they'd most likely have Croatia and then Germany which is much tougher IMO.
Indeed. They're probably going to lose to Portugal anyway, but at least it would be possible for them to make the semi-finals that way. If they have to meet Croatia and Germany, it's not looking good.
I think the winner of Germany vs France will win the tournament.
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And Belgium the toughest one.
Sounds so annoyingly plausible.
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thanks for that. If Italy somehow managed to come 2nd in their group, it'll probably be much more beneficial for them. My predictor has them playing Portugal in the 2nd round and then England in the QF. If they come first, they'd most likely have Croatia and then Germany which is much tougher IMO.
They're probably going to lose to Portugal anyway, but at least it would be possible for them to make the semi-finals that way. If they have to meet Croatia and Germany, it's not looking good.The fact that France wont face any strong-ish team before semis will be their downfall imo.You need some tough 1-2 games before you get to the business end of the tournament and France on paper should comfortably beat all the teams they could potentially face before semis.
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England have genuine quality this time.I expect them to top the group.
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England have genuine quality this time.I expect them to top the group.
They do have a lot more quality than in previous tournaments. And as weird as it may sound, they look better than Italy right now.
But compare them to France, Germany or Belgium and they still look weak.
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England have never had a good team. I wouldn't call them chokers, because they never had the quality to go far. Chokers would be pre 2008 Spain or Italy every other tournament (either they reach the final or they crash out in the group stage).
But compare them to France, Germany or Belgium and they still look weak.
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England are premium chokers though.
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It was an okay team. But not really much better than Portugal and they were definitely weaker than France. I don't think you can consider that result choking on their part.
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But not realistically good enough to win a major tournament. In both 2004 and 2006 they went out against Portugal, who were more or less the same in terms of quality. Both times England went out on penalties. I'm not convinced that's bad enough to consider it choking. Although I guess in 2004 they would have had a chance to win the thing.
Still, what I consider choking is Portugal losing it to Greece at home.
Buffon wants Totti at the Euros..
It was an okay team. But not really much better than Portugal and they were definitely weaker than France. I don't think you can consider that result choking on their part.
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But not realistically good enough to win a major tournament. In both 2004 and 2006 they went out against Portugal, who were more or less the same in terms of quality. Both times England went out on penalties. I'm not convinced that's bad enough to consider it choking. Although I guess in 2004 they would have had a chance to win the thing.
Still, what I consider choking is Portugal losing it to Greece at home.
I'm not so sure if Portugal were better on paper.
Beckham,young Rooney,Terry and Cole in their primes,Stevie G and Lampard who were coming off terrific seasons.Only GK was bit of a weakness,otherwise it was a great team on paper.
France had a lot of past it players who were carried by Zidane's heroics.
Beckham,young Rooney,Terry and Cole in their primes,Stevie G and Lampard who were coming off terrific seasons.Only GK was bit of a weakness,otherwise it was a great team on paper.
France had a lot of past it players who were carried by Zidane's heroics.
Well, maybe choking is a harsh word, but I do think their squad had the potential to win the tournament (even if they weren't favorites). This was Rooney at his best, and Lampard and Gerrard at their peak. Sure, they lacked players in certain positions (goalkeeper, among others), but overall I think they had a strong team. At least on paper.
This is the lineup in 2006:
This is the lineup in 2006: