Euro 2016 General Discussion Thread (7 Viewers)
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Sure, all facts, but none of them disprove anything I have said about Pogba. You could also bring up the fact that an all-time great like Buffon has never won the CL, so why should Pogba be blasted for doing the same ... yes, it's a fact but one that means absolutely nothing in the present discussion and in no ways does it mean Pogba gets to be called a great player, just because other greats have not achieved something, as well.
I.E. those are facts that lead to a non-argument.
To make it clear, I am not criticizing Pogba for not being at CR7's or Messi's level at 23 yo, I am not criticizing him for not having won the CL for Juve or scoring enough goals or making enough shots ... I am criticizing him for not playing up to his hype and natural talent in the big games, big moments. A player could have a great game individually yet still see his team lose and fail to win a title like the CL. That is, I am criticizing Pogba for not doing his part of the deal, not for not doing other people's job on the field, in addition to his own.
Like I said, those weren't jabs, but just a joke. A jab, and I am sure much more insulting one to Hoori, is what you say/imply here.
I.E. those are facts that lead to a non-argument.
To make it clear, I am not criticizing Pogba for not being at CR7's or Messi's level at 23 yo, I am not criticizing him for not having won the CL for Juve or scoring enough goals or making enough shots ... I am criticizing him for not playing up to his hype and natural talent in the big games, big moments. A player could have a great game individually yet still see his team lose and fail to win a title like the CL. That is, I am criticizing Pogba for not doing his part of the deal, not for not doing other people's job on the field, in addition to his own.
Like I said, those weren't jabs, but just a joke. A jab, and I am sure much more insulting one to Hoori, is what you say/imply here.
Retards here think Cristiano isn't a leader. acmilan, amongst others, what a complete doofus. 
And then Eder:
at people bashing this guy or saying Sanches and Nani were better or more important.
And then Eder:
at people bashing this guy or saying Sanches and Nani were better or more important.
I did not say he's a Messi/Ronaldo but rather pointed out that only because he didn't deliver in a final doesn't mean he's any less of a superstar because that's what Messi and Ronaldo excel at.
Also, the delusional one here is you because the world seems to see him the way we see him that's why we may end up selling him for a record price. You're just upset that the biggest star player you've had in (almost) the past decade was Muntari
Also, the delusional one here is you because the world seems to see him the way we see him that's why we may end up selling him for a record price. You're just upset that the biggest star player you've had in (almost) the past decade was Muntari
Oh. And not being decisive in a final always affects your status. Zidane's status went through the roof after the 1998 final. Brazilian Ronaldo too really cemented his career in 2002.
