[EU] The Champions League Draw (7 Viewers)

[Fred]

Btw, Arsenal should focus more on Vucinic If they really want to pass through the quarters. I could be wrong but I think he'll ring bells around Arsenal defenders.

He's too fast, deadly finisher, top stamina, decent dribbler.

Yes he's a player i'm scared of. I'm hoping Adebayor and Van Persie inflict more damage on the other side though.

 

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[CalcioJuventus]

Maxwell i can accept, but Grosso is still making my blood boil. Have you watched him play in the Ligue these two years?? if your answer is yes, and you still think he's on a par with Clichy then i honestly give up.

Grosso is not a very convincing defender. Clichy is very good but i don't know about best in the world. I think Evra, Maxwell and Chivu are just as good if not better.

Also Cole and Abidal are not to shabby either .. although not as good i think. What do you think of Cole? Do you still rate him after he left? I feel he is not as effective going forward as he was before but this season he is doing better than he has since he moved to Chelsea.

 

[Azzurri7]

Yes he's a player i'm scared of. I'm hoping Adebayor and Van Persie inflict more damage on the other side though.

Btw, can you tell me the most formation Wenger is/has been using this season, please.

 

[Alen]

Maxwell i can accept, but Grosso is still making my blood boil. Have you watched him play in the Ligue these two years?? if your answer is yes, and you still think he's on a par with Clichy then i honestly give up.

I don't follow the french league. In the last year i only watched Grosso in CL and at the Euro. In CL he was solid while at the EURO he played very well and the moment he started playing on the left Italy started playing much better.
I can't say the same about Clichy i'm afraid. He was always average, whenever i watched him.

 

[Alen]

And you didn't tell me how do i overrate serie A players by saying that Grosso is on par with Clichy?
As you know perfectly well, Grosso is not playing in serie A.

If you say that Vieira is on par with Keita, does it mean that you're overrating EPL players?

 

[Fred]

Grosso is not a very convincing defender. Clichy is very good but i don't know about best in the world. I think Evra, Maxwell and Chivu are just as good if not better.

Also Cole and Abidal are not to shabby either .. although not as good i think. What do you think of Cole? Do you still rate him after he left? I feel he is not as effective going forward as he was before but this season he is doing better than he has since he moved to Chelsea.

Clichy has been poor this season, so Maxwell, Evra and Abidal are definitely better right now, so is Philip Lahm. cole not so much, he's just as inconsistent as Clichy and he gets injured too much. But even he is much better than the constantly overrated Grosso, who has done nothing in his career other than a goal against Germany and a penalty against France in WC 2006.

Btw, can you tell me the most formation Wenger is/has been using this season, please.

Mostly its been

---------------------Almunia--------------

---Sagna-------Gallas------Silvestre----Clichy

----------------Denilson------Cesc-----

------Walcott-------------------------Nasri

--------------RVP--------Adebayor


Walcotts injured for another month or so, so Denilson has been playing on the right and Song in the middle lately, But theo will be back by the end of January.

 

[Fred]

I don't follow the french league. In the last year i only watched Grosso in CL and at the Euro. In CL he was solid while at the EURO he played very well and the moment he started playing on the left Italy started playing much better.
I can't say the same about Clichy i'm afraid. He was always average, whenever i watched him.

Lets put two lines under the bolded part. You didn't watch him play last season or did you? (Clichy i mean)

 

[Azzurri7]

Clichy has been poor this season, so Maxwell, Evra and Abidal are definitely better right now, so is Philip Lahm. cole not so much, he's just as inconsistent as Clichy and he gets injured too much. But even he is much better than the constantly overrated Grosso, who has done nothing in his career other than a goal against Germany and a penalty against France in WC 2006.




Mostly its been

---------------------Almunia--------------

---Sagna-------Gallas------Silvestre----Clichy

----------------Denilson------Cesc-----

------Walcott-------------------------Nasri

--------------RVP--------Adebayor


Walcotts injured for another month or so, so Denilson has been playing on the right and Song in the middle lately, But theo will be back by the end of January.

Denilson never impressed me whenever I watched Arsenal playing. He doing good or it is just me?

 

[Fred]

Denilson never impressed me whenever I watched Arsenal playing. He doing good or it is just me?

He's as mediocre as they get. Poor player that Arsene for some reason rates. He's a mid table team player at best.

 

[Alen]

Lets put two lines under the bolded part. You didn't watch him play last season or did you? (Clichy i mean)

I did and i wasn't impressed. He was ok but certainly not one of the best LBs in the world.

 

[Enron]

Clichy has been poor this season, so Maxwell, Evra and Abidal are definitely better right now, so is Philip Lahm. cole not so much, he's just as inconsistent as Clichy and he gets injured too much. But even he is much better than the constantly overrated Grosso, who has done nothing in his career other than a goal against Germany and a penalty against France in WC 2006.

You're forgetting his glory against Australia.

 

[Mafia]

Fred, r u crazy, Grosso was basically the WC winner for italy, won the pk vs aussies, beat germany, and converted vs france in style, and then in Euro he played his ass off, and as soon as he would play Italy would do much better. So don't say he is shit, cuz quite frankly ur wrong.

 

[Alen]

Fred, r u crazy, Grosso was basically the WC winner for italy, won the pk vs aussies, beat germany, and converted vs france in style, and then in Euro he played his ass off, and as soon as he would play Italy would do much better. So don't say he is shit, cuz quite frankly ur wrong.

You're wrong. Clichy is superior to Grosso in every way you look at it.

 

[CalcioJuventus]

Arsenal need to get rid of Denilson and get a better CB than Silvestre. why do they not start Toure?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Lets put two lines under the bolded part. You didn't watch him play last season or did you? (Clichy i mean)

he was real good last year this hes actually struggling

 

[Enron]

Arsenal need to get rid of Denilson and get a better CB than Silvestre. why do they not start Toure?

Wasn't he injured?

 

[Mafia]

You're wrong. Clichy is superior to Grosso in every way you look at it.

Clearly ur being sarcastic.

 

[Fred]

I did and i wasn't impressed. He was ok but certainly not one of the best LBs in the world.

Oh come on, now this is just plain bias, on what games was he "ok" last season?? He was literally fantastic all season. Barring Birmingham, Tottenham and a Wigan game at the end of last season, i can tell you for a fact he didn't have any bad games.

Fred, r u crazy, Grosso was basically the WC winner for italy, won the pk vs aussies, beat germany, and converted vs france in style, and then in Euro he played his ass off, and as soon as he would play Italy would do much better. So don't say he is shit, cuz quite frankly ur wrong.

playing well in a couple of games every two years doesnt make you a good player.

He was crap for Inter and right now he should be better for Lyon. Plenty of wingers in the Ligue have put Grosso on his backside.

 

[Fred]

Arsenal need to get rid of Denilson and get a better CB than Silvestre. why do they not start Toure?

Because he's been just as bad as Silvestre.

he was real good last year this hes actually struggling

true.

 

[Fred]

You're wrong. Clichy is superior to Grosso in every way you look at it.

If you actually watched Grosso play for either Inter or Lyon. You wouldnt be saying all this. You rate him because of a couple of games every two years(international tournaments). Makes me wonder, you probably think Klose is the best striker on the planet.