[EU] Europa League 2012/13 (9 Viewers)

IrishZebra

Western Imperialist
Jun 18, 2006
23,327
Yep, and all the better for it. We'll financially dominate Italy and slowly the Old Powers will fall by the wayside and everybody will have to take the EL seriously.


These things go in cycles, it's our turn to be Lyon.
 

fredrik

Senior Member
Aug 7, 2011
7,239
very strange to see inter trying and almost succeding going through. would only hurt their slim chance for cl next year. only sensible explecnation for the 4-1 victory to me is tottenham wanted to go out to focus on the league, but adabajor was too stupied and didnt understand that.
the ref in that game was great though.
 

fredrik

Senior Member
Aug 7, 2011
7,239
I just calculated Italians would need 16 points per season to catch up with either England or Germany or those two to fail miserably next 5 years. There is a slim chance for that to happen. That 4th place is long gone.
italian teams and their leaders are all at fault for not paying attention to el. german teams and all the other leagues understood how the system works. italian fotball have been asleep with regards to stadiums ,broadcasts and marketing the league. serie a was the best league in the 80 and 90 , such a shame.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,064
italian teams and their leaders are all at fault for not paying attention to el. german teams and all the other leagues understood how the system works. italian fotball have been asleep with regards to stadiums ,broadcasts and marketing the league. serie a was the best league in the 80 and 90 , such a shame.
The problem is that stupid law in Italy which prevents teams from building their own stadium. We waited 10 years to finally be able to build it. To get a permit it takes ages. But the other things you mentioned all stand. Italians can only blame themselves.
 

fredrik

Senior Member
Aug 7, 2011
7,239
The problem is that stupid law in Italy which prevents teams from building their own stadium. We waited 10 years to finally be able to build it. To get a permit it takes ages. But the other things you mentioned all stands. Italians can only blame themselves.
didnt know it was so dif. to build stadium. until most clubs have up to date stadiums italien football will be behind the rest.

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The racist chants and banana waiving.
thats what happen when stadiums looks like slum and tickets cost 5£...
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
The problem is that stupid law in Italy which prevents teams from building their own stadium. We waited 10 years to finally be able to build it. To get a permit it takes ages. But the other things you mentioned all stands. Italians can only blame themselves.
Its not just the leaders, the major reasons lie elsewere

1) Stadiums. When we were ahead of the curve, it was fine the city owned the stadiums. When the profit of a privately owned stadium started to increase exponentially, england shot past us with all their teams investing in a privately owned stadium. Italian teams wanted to do the same, but legal issues and citycouncils blocked that for more then 10 years. This was the main reasin why epl got so rich. Not the oil, that came later.

2) Player wages. Italy has a serious tax issue. When wages became more important on the budged, and the television money stopped rising so much each year, we suffered the worst.

those are main reasons.

3) calciopoli, but not for juve. Since calciopoli, milan partially and juve entirely vanished from the scene for a year, and returned weaker. Plenty of smaller teams tried to get into Championsleague.
Because the traditional sides were weaker, they had less dept, and dropped more points from european football. This had as effect that since 2006 most smaller sides didnt care about EL, but tried a push for that 4th CL spot instead

Thanks to serie a just getting 3 CL spots. Juve is back. Milan seems to be on the way back, and lazio/inter seemb to be fighting for that 3th spot with roma likely to follow in next year. Teams are forced to do well in EL for that 4th spot. They need it, we dont.
 

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